US Triple-A Rating in Jeopardy on eve of Bernanke Speech on USD

The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.

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The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.





Absolutely. That's the fact of it. And now they are all gonna unwind from the US dollar.

We will be in freefall soon. The US will probably not exist in 2011.

The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.

The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.


Last year, Moody's declared that ALL US municipalities were in debt trouble. Not some, just all city, county and state's. Thus be default, you would think that they would place a notch down-grade on the US Federal government - nope.

The thing is, as a whole, the US still has the greatest potential of any market. It is a large, generally unified market who all speak the same language and are willing to buy. That is the only reason I can see why Moody's or similar has not taken such an action.

Yet, with the world's reserve currency, for that IS what it STILL is, getting trounced on, Moody's will soon have no choice...

The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.





Absolutely. That's the fact of it. And now they are all gonna unwind from the US dollar.

We will be in freefall soon. The US will probably not exist in 2011.

The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.





Absolutely. That's the fact of it. And now they are all gonna unwind from the US dollar.

We will be in freefall soon. The US will probably not exist in 2011.

true true.ben's speech will start another rally on wall street

The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.


Last year, Moody's declared that ALL US municipalities were in debt trouble. Not some, just all city, county and state's. Thus be default, you would think that they would place a notch down-grade on the US Federal government - nope.

The thing is, as a whole, the US still has the greatest potential of any market. It is a large, generally unified market who all speak the same language and are willing to buy. That is the only reason I can see why Moody's or similar has not taken such an action.

Yet, with the world's reserve currency, for that IS what it STILL is, getting trounced on, Moody's will soon have no choice...


The US debt and unfunded liabilities now approach 200 trillion dollars.

The income is 2 trillion dollars a year.

Do the math. The US is bankrupt by 2 orders of magnitude.

It's like you making 200 thousand dollars a year and owing 20 million dollars. You are just never going to be able to pay off the debt.

The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.


Last year, Moody's declared that ALL US municipalities were in debt trouble. Not some, just all city, county and state's. Thus be default, you would think that they would place a notch down-grade on the US Federal government - nope.

The thing is, as a whole, the US still has the greatest potential of any market. It is a large, generally unified market who all speak the same language and are willing to buy. That is the only reason I can see why Moody's or similar has not taken such an action.

Yet, with the world's reserve currency, for that IS what it STILL is, getting trounced on, Moody's will soon have no choice...

The US debt and unfunded liabilities now approach 200 trillion dollars.

The income is 2 trillion dollars a year.

Do the math. The US is bankrupt by 2 orders of magnitude.

It's like you making 200 thousand dollars a year and owing 20 million dollars. You are just never going to be able to pay off the debt.

Stocks are going to go up in US dollars, but measured by purchasing power or denominated in gold, they will go down.

The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.





Absolutely. That's the fact of it. And now they are all gonna unwind from the US dollar.

We will be in freefall soon. The US will probably not exist in 2011.

true true.ben's speech will start another rally on wall street


Stocks are going to go up in US dollars, but measured by purchasing power or denominated in gold, they will go down.

The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.


Last year, Moody's declared that ALL US municipalities were in debt trouble. Not some, just all city, county and state's. Thus be default, you would think that they would place a notch down-grade on the US Federal government - nope.

The thing is, as a whole, the US still has the greatest potential of any market. It is a large, generally unified market who all speak the same language and are willing to buy. That is the only reason I can see why Moody's or similar has not taken such an action.

Yet, with the world's reserve currency, for that IS what it STILL is, getting trounced on, Moody's will soon have no choice...


The US debt and unfunded liabilities now approach 200 trillion dollars.

The income is 2 trillion dollars a year.

Do the math. The US is bankrupt by 2 orders of magnitude.

It's like you making 200 thousand dollars a year and owing 20 million dollars. You are just never going to be able to pay off the debt.


Good point. And we would NEVER even be allowed to get in that position. so why was the US?

Either there is going to be A LOT of pissed off business people and leaders around the world at this weak USD policy, American workers included -- or --

something else is at work here. The only thing that comes to mind is the G20 lot is doing a crash and burn reset. The G20 has already started the foundations of a new reserve currency in 2009, which Obama agreed to, via the IMF. It has funding from all nations, including the US.

Hard to say, but a weak USD policy is just crazy in my mind for the world's largest economy and holder of the de-facto reserve currency.

Stocks are going to go up in US dollars, but measured by purchasing power or denominated in gold, they will go down.

PPP n godl are not real measures.Military power and political stability is real backing for dollar

The ratings agencies are a joke. They had all this defaulted mortgage paper rated AAA. If they weren't in bed with the FED and Wall Street, US treasury notes would already be rated junk and everyone with a brain knows it.

The reason is simple. A return to fiscal responsibility at any time within the past two decades would have caused an economic collapse, which is obviously politically unacceptable.

So instead, a printing press has been used to induce an artificial state of prosperity, and it has now gotten to the point of absurdity...the US is bankrupt many times over and it's all unwinding in a race to zero for ALL the fiat currencies as measured in tangible wealth or purchasing power....because the US dollar is the lynch pin of the whole global financial system.

So it's like rooting the whole financial system in bird feathers, or trinkets and beads...or (name any other worthless item). There is no anchor.

Stocks are going to go up in US dollars, but measured by purchasing power or denominated in gold, they will go down.

PPP n godl are not real measures.Military power and political stability is real backing for dollar


To a degree that holds weight, but the playing field on that front is being leveled.

what political stability in America?
The USA is more politically split than I have ever seen it.

Why the hell would anybody loan us more money? We are broke and we have mismanaged our money to the point it can't be ignored any more. We deserve the down-grade. Maybe that would wake up the worthless piece of shit that is ruining (or is that running) this once great country.

what political stability in America?
The USA is more politically split than I have ever seen it.

Next up. will Obama's report due out this morning, the, "international currency policy" for once and all label China as a currency manipulator?

what political stability in America?
The USA is more politically split than I have ever seen it.

politically divided for a show but they are united.They know how to control power