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Speak German Or You're Not Welcome In Germany...Oh Shit!!!!!!!!!!

 
Babsi

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Ok what does this have to do with national socialism and adolf? Many cities already have ghettos here, but voluntary ones, if you go to parts of berlin or cologne you would think you are in istanbul.
Now wanting immigrants to at least try to integrate is too much to ask? Its not like we are invading people, expelling and torturing the inhabitants like certain countries.
This has nothing to do with racism, my father is iranian, we have ditched islam and speak german very well.


That's exactly what I'm saying - it's the "alle ueber den Kamm scheren" I don''t like. You shouldn't be thrown into the same bucket with everybody else. But her speech says just that, that people like you don't fit in. The regular Hans and Gretl on the streets won't know the difference between you or another guy from the middle east, will they? She instills hate crime. The government screwed up, now they want to turn people against each other and make life for innocent people like you very difficult and dangerous.
Do I think the law should be changed? Heck yeah...but not because of the muslims, certain countries and groups other than them cause more problems and they do nothing to integrate, instead commit crimes and live off the german system.
There's a bigger picture to this story. If she actually changes the law, then I stand corrected, but I doubt it. And the german speaking part to immigrate is already in place. So nothing new there.
Tell me, how are germans treating you in general?


That is certainly a valid concern and I think about it, too. How germans treat me is interesting, they are usually cautions when they first see me or hear my name on the phone, but when they realise I talk just like them all the worries seem to be gone in an instant and they treat me just like a blonde guy.
So yes, language and demeanor is the key.
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That is good for you - but watch out, you might be walking more on eggshells if this continues. Idiots won't care and not make a difference between you and the others who are the real problem. Stay safe :) Viel Glueck! btw..some of my egyptian friends who are christian, had bad experiences, that's why I ask. If you're dark skinned with a middle eastern accent, you're a muslim which to the idiots equals terrorist and the cause for all their problems. Lovely, 2010, and another Crusade?
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Germany has a history of not be welcoming... nothing new


Haven't they allowed themselves to be overrun by Islam?
 Quoting: Anastasia Slaymaker


Turks was their choice of cheap labor and to fill the demographic gaps of the 1.2 children per Aryan family type of German. The ones who stayed and raised families have no hope of becoming Germans, last I heard. Not even the ones born there. But they are welcome to work, and who cares if they speak German or not? So is it election year, is that why Merkel is bashing the Turks?
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If you are against multicultarism, especially Americans who cultured themselves into america. Then you can stay as long as another culture beats and kills you. Maybe you think, well, that is nature, but why don't you go live in the jungle then?
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10/16/2010 07:21 PM
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Anyone who does not immediately speak German", she said, "is not welcome".
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being not a fan of her whatsoever, I strongly doubt she said that. german transcript please?
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10/16/2010 07:22 PM
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Führer Forever: 10% Germans want 'new Hitler'?
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Anyone who does not immediately speak German", she said, "is not welcome".


being not a fan of her whatsoever, I strongly doubt she said that. german transcript please?
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It is a bad translation and I think deliberate by the BBC.
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that 1/10 want new Hitler news is from October 15, 2010
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So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?
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you aren't, Herr Bunker (unless I'm wrong, flag removal is quite convenient), so how come it's your business to comment on her perceived business of dictating politics on anything?
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So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?


you aren't, Herr Bunker (unless I'm wrong, flag removal is quite convenient), so how come it's your business to comment on her perceived business of dictating politics on anything?
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never mind, kind of misread (first half of the first sentence put me off heh).
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Attempts to build a multicultural society in Germany have "utterly failed", Chancellor Angela Merkel says.
"Anyone who does not immediately speak German", she said, "is not welcome".
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internation language is chinese in future
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Itsy-bitsy paranoid brains abound here.
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CNN International headline news brought religion into it, and it seems she did say directly immigration and islam...I thought that's what you guys were quoting at...and also the readers did. I don't have a link because it was tv. Of COURSE she won't say the exact words "Muslims", that wouldn't be politically correct now would it? But the MSM and sheeple, they will quickly do what TPTB wants them to do, bring in the Muslims card, oh yeah......Hans und Gretl won't know the difference. Heck, you might go there and just look a little too tanned and you could get into trouble and harrassed. That's not how I want my country turn out to be. What's next?


So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?
 Quoting: D. Bunker


Ja ich bin Deutsche, les mal meine Posts. Lebe eben im Ausland! My family is there, I visit there twice a year, and I would like to think that I'd return again one of these days? So yes, it is my bloody business and I'm dictating??? Haha, well that would be great if I had that power. And it's not the policies if you read the whole thread. The laws are in place, you must speak german if you enter, old news, just wasn't enforced. Who's fault is that? It's stupid election propaganda that ticks me off when the real problems aren't being addressed. And what always gets thrown into the mix? Either I'm called a Nazi if I'm for a change - or I'm being ridiculed by people like you. Catch 22 isn't it? I'm for fairness here, that's all. I don't have a "side", no dog in this fight for me. I just want people to get along and stop this BS, I HATE labeling, propaganda by politicians, MSM, one-sided reports as well as racism of any kind. We're already on a tipping point. We should unite and not divide more...but I think everything's going down the drain anyhow, so why do I even bother. This is not only happening in Germany, it's everywhere.

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Das Machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengraben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Is nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen Cotten-pickenen handen in das pockets - relaxen und Watchen Das Blinken Lights.
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So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?


you aren't, Herr Bunker (unless I'm wrong, flag removal is quite convenient), so how come it's your business to comment on her perceived business of dictating politics on anything?


never mind, kind of misread (first half of the first sentence put me off heh).
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Frau Bunker and I was born and raised in Bayern.
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Anyone who does not immediately speak German", she said, "is not welcome".


being not a fan of her whatsoever, I strongly doubt she said that. german transcript please?


It is a bad translation and I think deliberate by the BBC.
 Quoting: D. Bunker


Here's the type of newsarticles that are being published as well as CNN running with the same exact wording on tv. I don't care - did she say it word by word? Ok, lets say she didn't, but it was a bit clumsy yet again, and why use that as her agenda for the election? Somebody take her to the hospital to get her foot out of her mouth. And the MSM is no better as well as some people here who were quick to take a side to either call germans Nazi's or say "away with the muslims". That's my point here D. Bunker.

Stuff like this helps nobody.

[link to uk.news.yahoo.com]

"Germany's attempt to create a multicultural society has "utterly failed," Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday, adding fuel to a debate over immigration and Islam polarising her conservative camp. Skip related content

Speaking to a meeting of young members of her Christian Democrats (CDU), Merkel said allowing people of different cultural backgrounds to live side by side without integrating had not worked in a country that is home to some four million Muslims."
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Anyone who does not immediately speak German", she said, "is not welcome".


being not a fan of her whatsoever, I strongly doubt she said that. german transcript please?


It is a bad translation and I think deliberate by the BBC.


Here's the type of newsarticles that are being published as well as CNN running with the same exact wording on tv. I don't care - did she say it word by word? Ok, lets say she didn't, but it was a bit clumsy yet again, and why use that as her agenda for the election? Somebody take her to the hospital to get her foot out of her mouth. And the MSM is no better as well as some people here who were quick to take a side to either call germans Nazi's or say "away with the muslims". That's my point here D. Bunker.

Stuff like this helps nobody.

[link to uk.news.yahoo.com]

"Germany's attempt to create a multicultural society has "utterly failed," Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday, adding fuel to a debate over immigration and Islam polarising her conservative camp. Skip related content

Speaking to a meeting of young members of her Christian Democrats (CDU), Merkel said allowing people of different cultural backgrounds to live side by side without integrating had not worked in a country that is home to some four million Muslims."
 Quoting: Babsi


I am not a big fan of Merkel; however, I recognize as you must that there is sufficient strain on the system to warrant consideration of who is and is not assimilating. This transcends language alone.
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Germany has a history of not be welcoming... nothing new


Haven't they allowed themselves to be overrun by Islam?
 Quoting: Anastasia Slaymaker


Perhaps, but at least they seem to be awakening to the reality they face, and are willing to engage the enemy, and lever the Muslim hand from their national neck.

Americans on the other hand have ALWAYS been so open minded their brains fall out.

I fully support Germany in their efforts, and mightily wish they are successful in showing the world how to reverse the Islamic cancer infesting their country.

Of course I *AM* German, my Mom was in Berlin while it was being bombed into oblivion, so I have a unique point of view on the matter perhaps.
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So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?


you aren't, Herr Bunker (unless I'm wrong, flag removal is quite convenient), so how come it's your business to comment on her perceived business of dictating politics on anything?


never mind, kind of misread (first half of the first sentence put me off heh).


Frau Bunker and I was born and raised in Bayern.
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Wo in Bayern? Ich komme auch aus Bayern :)

No hard feelings there ok D.Bunker? I just blew my cap off when I read germans are nazis and out with the muslims in one page here. People need to look at what's really going on. There's always 2 sides to the story.
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So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?


you aren't, Herr Bunker (unless I'm wrong, flag removal is quite convenient), so how come it's your business to comment on her perceived business of dictating politics on anything?


never mind, kind of misread (first half of the first sentence put me off heh).


Frau Bunker and I was born and raised in Bayern.
 Quoting: D. Bunker


Bayern... Love it! Know where Hof is? My adopted 'home town' where my Mom and Grandmother escaped to as Berlin was falling. Been there several times, The most beautiful area on Earth I think.
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So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?


you aren't, Herr Bunker (unless I'm wrong, flag removal is quite convenient), so how come it's your business to comment on her perceived business of dictating politics on anything?


never mind, kind of misread (first half of the first sentence put me off heh).


Frau Bunker and I was born and raised in Bayern.


Wo in Bayern? Ich komme auch aus Bayern :)

No hard feelings there ok D.Bunker? I just blew my cap off when I read germans are nazis and out with the muslims in one page here. People need to look at what's really going on. There's always 2 sides to the story.
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A very small town between Ulm and Munchen.
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So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?


you aren't, Herr Bunker (unless I'm wrong, flag removal is quite convenient), so how come it's your business to comment on her perceived business of dictating politics on anything?


never mind, kind of misread (first half of the first sentence put me off heh).


Frau Bunker and I was born and raised in Bayern.


Bayern... Love it! Know where Hof is? My adopted 'home town' where my Mom and Grandmother escaped to as Berlin was falling. Been there several times, The most beautiful area on Earth I think.
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It is rumored that God maintains a home there, no? I do not think Hof is in Bavaria though. I shall have to look.

Last Edited by D. Bunker on 10/16/2010 07:43 PM
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Anyone who does not immediately speak German", she said, "is not welcome".


being not a fan of her whatsoever, I strongly doubt she said that. german transcript please?


It is a bad translation and I think deliberate by the BBC.


Here's the type of newsarticles that are being published as well as CNN running with the same exact wording on tv. I don't care - did she say it word by word? Ok, lets say she didn't, but it was a bit clumsy yet again, and why use that as her agenda for the election? Somebody take her to the hospital to get her foot out of her mouth. And the MSM is no better as well as some people here who were quick to take a side to either call germans Nazi's or say "away with the muslims". That's my point here D. Bunker.

Stuff like this helps nobody.

[link to uk.news.yahoo.com]

"Germany's attempt to create a multicultural society has "utterly failed," Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday, adding fuel to a debate over immigration and Islam polarising her conservative camp. Skip related content

Speaking to a meeting of young members of her Christian Democrats (CDU), Merkel said allowing people of different cultural backgrounds to live side by side without integrating had not worked in a country that is home to some four million Muslims."


I am not a big fan of Merkel; however, I recognize as you must that there is sufficient strain on the system to warrant consideration of who is and is not assimilating. This transcends language alone.
 Quoting: D. Bunker


Funny - I have yet to meet a german that likes her. So we can agree on that. The agenda she chose is harsh. Did you read further in the article? It contradicts itself. She's playing the typical Wahlkampf game. But please, you must not preach to the choir here - read the posts of the people. It is being carried out in the wrong way - do you side with that? Shall Germany make the same mistake again? I don't know where you live now, but things are not going too well for most people there now. Things could escalate - look at France :(. I'd hate to see that happening...people need to stop hating, simple as that. It's all politics.
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It is simply common respect to learn the native language, or as much as possible in whatever country you live. It demonstrates a respect for the culture and will ultimately lead to better understanding of cultures, their idiosychracies as well as their best and worst attributes.
THats been my experience in some dozen countries. The best were the Germans where my poor Germanic skills were enhanced by sign language (pointing). The French were much more disdainful but not all. Thr MOST obnoxious were Koreans, the most condescending were the Singaporeans and the MOST untrustworthy were the Hebrews and the Mexicans (Spanish). Kowledge is gained through experience and hopefully becomes wisdom. ALL cultures have good and bad. Aside from the Jewish issue (which included all kinds of subsets of 'undesirables-gays, Roma, mentally unfit) Hitler's worse trangression was to disconnect from the Internatioanl moneymasters which led to great prosperity until the international cartel 'stepped in'. In an interesting parallel most of our so calld "Axis of Evil' countries have been guilty of trying to disconnect from the international bankers. You simply cannot have a NWO, one world currency/government without the vast majority of countries on board. US/State Department aid is even used as blackmail to force compliance/submission to achieve these ends. Oil/gas pipeline routes are the MAIN reason but never mentioned.
I for one am sick and tired of getting government forms with attachments for some 6-8 foreign languages even though EVERY time I specify ENGLISH. A waste of time, money, resources and trees. Just think how it is in CONgress. I bet we could cut a few BILLION by stopping such sloppy procedures and STILL meet those Federally mandated 'guidelines' regarding foreign languge requirements on official documents.
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So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?


you aren't, Herr Bunker (unless I'm wrong, flag removal is quite convenient), so how come it's your business to comment on her perceived business of dictating politics on anything?


never mind, kind of misread (first half of the first sentence put me off heh).


Frau Bunker and I was born and raised in Bayern.


Bayern... Love it! Know where Hof is? My adopted 'home town' where my Mom and Grandmother escaped to as Berlin was falling. Been there several times, The most beautiful area on Earth I think.


It is rumored that God maintains a home there, no? I do not think Hof is in Bavaria though. I shall have to look.
 Quoting: D. Bunker


"Hof in Bayern - ganz oben!" was at one time the city motto... Northern Bavaria, it used to be almost right on the border with East Germany.
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Funny - I have yet to meet a german that likes her. So we can agree on that. The agenda she chose is harsh. Did you read further in the article? It contradicts itself. She's playing the typical Wahlkampf game. But please, you must not preach to the choir here - read the posts of the people. It is being carried out in the wrong way - do you side with that? Shall Germany make the same mistake again? I don't know where you live now, but things are not going too well for most people there now. Things could escalate - look at France :(. I'd hate to see that happening...people need to stop hating, simple as that. It's all politics.
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I was a bit put off also by some of the comments. Most do not have any idea what the issues facing the average German are nor what the people are like. The average concept of a German is based on Hogans Heroes rather than any form of reality.

It is not uncommon in difficult economic times to see nationalism used as a campaign theme and yes it does conjure bad memories.
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So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?


you aren't, Herr Bunker (unless I'm wrong, flag removal is quite convenient), so how come it's your business to comment on her perceived business of dictating politics on anything?


never mind, kind of misread (first half of the first sentence put me off heh).


Frau Bunker and I was born and raised in Bayern.


Bayern... Love it! Know where Hof is? My adopted 'home town' where my Mom and Grandmother escaped to as Berlin was falling. Been there several times, The most beautiful area on Earth I think.


It is rumored that God maintains a home there, no? I do not think Hof is in Bavaria though. I shall have to look.


"Hof in Bayern - ganz oben!" was at one time the city motto... Northern Bavaria, it used to be almost right on the border with East Germany.
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Yes, I see it is right on the border.
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Holly Shit!!!! That is how it should be! One of the biggest problems in America is we are try to appease Multi lingual and multi cultural.

There has never been a nation or civilizition that has lasted as a multi cultural society
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Cool beans, can we kick all them creeps out of our country and send them back to the deutsch where they belong?
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So you are Deutsch? If not why is it your business to dictate what their policies should be toward immigrants?


you aren't, Herr Bunker (unless I'm wrong, flag removal is quite convenient), so how come it's your business to comment on her perceived business of dictating politics on anything?


never mind, kind of misread (first half of the first sentence put me off heh).


Frau Bunker and I was born and raised in Bayern.


Bayern... Love it! Know where Hof is? My adopted 'home town' where my Mom and Grandmother escaped to as Berlin was falling. Been there several times, The most beautiful area on Earth I think.


It is rumored that God maintains a home there, no? I do not think Hof is in Bavaria though. I shall have to look.


"Hof in Bayern - ganz oben!" was at one time the city motto... Northern Bavaria, it used to be almost right on the border with East Germany.


Yes, I see it is right on the border.
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Cool... It's amazing to actually meet someone here that knows where that is and has a kind of common reference with me.
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Holly Shit!!!! That is how it should be! One of the biggest problems in America is we are try to appease Multi lingual and multi cultural.

There has never been a nation or civilizition that has lasted as a multi cultural society
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THIS X 1,000,000





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