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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1131933 ![]() 10/16/2010 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But this statement has angered members of the African American community. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959838I just knew this uppity shit would start after Obama's election. The next thing you know they'll be complaining about Robert Downey Jr playing Ironman 'cause he's not red enough. . |
ladyarwen User ID: 1084880 ![]() 10/16/2010 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One Last Time : Cleopatra Was Not Black Quoting: Anonymous Coward 95983818 June 2010 - She hasn’t even been officially confirmed as having the role, but Angelina Jolie is already receiving criticism over her possible portrayal of the legendary Queen of the Nile. Jolie, who turned 35 last week, is caught up in a racially charged debate over whether the role should have been played by a black woman… The new film’s producer, Scott Rudin, previously told USA Today the role is being developed with Angelina in mind as she has ‘the perfect look’. But this statement has angered members of the African American community. An Essence Magazine online story asks, ‘Another White Actress to Play Cleopatra?’ ‘Honestly, I don’t care how full Angelina Jolie’s lips are, how many African children she adopts, or how bronzed her skin will become for the film, I firmly believe this role should have gone to a black woman.’ … ‘Were Vanessa Williams, Halle Berry and Thandie Newton unavailable for auditions that day?’ the writer continued. ‘Why does Hollywood think it’s even slightly plausible to cast white women in roles that would be more sensible to cast a black actress for? Especially when that role is an African queen.’ Of course normally we do not post such show business nonsense, but it is almost the weekend. More importantly, the preposterous claim that Cleopatra was a black African has gone on long enough. As anyone with even a smidgeon of historical knowledge should know, Cleopatra VII was ethnically Greek. He name was actually Cleopatra VII Philopator, or even more precisely, Κλεοπάτρα Φιλοπάτωρ. (Philopator in Greek means ‘father loving.’) She was a direct descendent of Ptolemy, who was one of Alexander The Great’s Greek bodyguards. Indeed, Egypt’s Ptolemaic dynasty was so notoriously in-bred that was very little chance of Cleopatra being anything but 100% Greek. And, of course, the time of their rule is also referred to as Egypt’s ‘Hellenistic Period.’ In fact, Cleopatra was the first in her long line to even make a pretense of learning Egyptian. She and the rest of her ancestors spoke Greek as their native language. Furthermore, we are not talking about unrecorded history here. No contemporary authors and no contemporary artists ever portrayed or described her as having African features. These claims of Cleopatra’s ‘blackness’ are just laughable ignorance and racism parading as history. [link to www.articlesafari.com] Didn't Elizabeth Taylor play Cleopatra??? Since when has Hollywood always been authentic in their portrayal of all historic characters? She also is one of the illuminati bloodlines as well. The Love You Withold Is The Pain That You Carry! |
calmingpills User ID: 1020518 ![]() 10/16/2010 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's up to the discretion of the director and the producers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959838They could have Daniel Day Lewis playing the role of Bill Cosby for all I care. You're mentally weak and have the education of a wet turd I could run mental laps around you. I wouldn't even bother to waste my time though because it would prove nothing that isn't already obvious. Nice way to attempt to detract from the truthfulness of my statement. If you don't like it, I will offer you that wet turd you seem fond of as a token of peace. |
Earth Daughter User ID: 1071046 ![]() 10/16/2010 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cleopatra was a Greek. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyYes, the Ptolemies were Greeks, OP. Not that there have never been black pharoahs, though. Egypt did go through a period of having rulers from Nubia. But, generally, it is more mediterraean than those countries south of the Sahara. "Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 769657 ![]() 10/16/2010 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cleopatra was a Greek. Quoting: hawk8414Isn't this Greek, too then? That is fucking disgusting! Only a backwards kind of culture would do shit like this. Gross!!! Read about the Ptolemy's they were disgusting. Sister kissing weirdos. That's the only reason Jolie should portray her. But she's too old. Cleopatra was 21 when she gave herself to Caesar to avoid invasion. She was a leader of her people, and a ruthless one. She killed her own brother and sister. |
czygyny User ID: 418932 ![]() 10/16/2010 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cleopatra was a Greek. Quoting: hawk8414Isn't this Greek, too then? That is fucking disgusting! Only a backwards kind of culture would do shit like this. Gross!!! When all your meager wealth and livelihood is dependant on that one cow raising that calf to weaning, and that is the only veterinary procedure you have at you disposal to induce that cow to lactate...well, you will do disgusting things I suppose. Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos |
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czygyny User ID: 418932 ![]() 10/16/2010 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like to see someone like this woman play a part like Cleopatra [link to www.google.com] She played Queen Esther in 'One Night with the King' some time back. I'm tire of seeing these famous actresses...let some other beauties play the good parts. Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 959838 ![]() 02/27/2011 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cleopatra was a strawberry blonde with green eyes. Quoting: cmvHER people hated her too. A strawberry blonde greek? yes, greeks come in blonde hair and blue eyes too. Really? I haven't seen many take a closer look |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1278921 ![]() 02/27/2011 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | total double standard. blacks play roles that are white and no one says anything Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211926But the issue here is Clopathra was a Greek white woman and not an africa. Now having said that I would have no problem with a chinawoman playing the part if she is a good actress. The reason for the magazine article is that they think the original cleopathra was black and this is just false. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1273101 ![]() 02/27/2011 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what cleo looked like, but I always thought she should be played by someone with almond-shaped eyes. Jolie's are round, so I wouldn't cast her. Besides that, I used to like Jolie until she decided she didn't like America. Thought about ordering Salt on PPV, but decided I'm not giving her anymore of my money. Doesn't like the midwest (Brads family area), doesn't want to be near America at Thanksgiving. (Yeah, it's terrible we celebrate that, but those of us who are part...it's a family day now). I'm sick of her anti-America rhetoric. Let her be cultured and above the rest of us. She'll find any 3rd world hell hole quaint, but judge and be uppity about those regular poor country folk in her own country. Ex-fan! |
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