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any way to predict what the impact on earth would be if it was facing us? power outage? we all die? hiding
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Lol, guess you have more faith than I do. There is no way, something this large wouldn't effect us. I personally would place this as a larger CME, and yes, that is what it will be. Something this large will also affect the surrounding areas of instabilities. How many times have we seen one event, trigger another?
Let me ask you this, if it is no big deal like you say, why no new data from either sat in line of sight??, if as you say, just another ho hum event. Someone in Nasa is playing it safe lol. But I have spent enough time on this, you guys have fun,
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Lol, guess you have more faith than I do. There is no way, something this large wouldn't effect us. I personally would place this as a larger CME, and yes, that is what it will be. Something this large will also affect the surrounding areas of instabilities. How many times have we seen one event, trigger another?

Let me ask you this, if it is no big deal like you say, why no new data from either sat in line of sight??, if as you say, just another ho hum event. Someone in Nasa is playing it safe lol. But I have spent enough time on this, you guys have fun,
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The satellites go offline a lot, It's not rare, People just tend not to mention when they go offline when nothing is happening.

By offline I mean low res data stream. The higher res pictures will come in in a few days..

Notice behind today is already missing 6 hours: 20101028_020530_n7euB_195.jpg 02:05:30 UT
20101028_075530_n7euB_195.jpg 07:55:30 UT

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Give it time the images will start to come back in.

This is not about faith, this is about experience.

No way something that large wouldn't effect us you say... take a look at some of these

Yes I suppose we have apparantly seen one event trigger another.. but perhaps you should wait until (if) that happens before factoring that in.

No guarentee that the eruption will/has affect(ed any surrounding areas.

And if they are just playing it safe.. to perserve the satellites from being damaged - so what? Wouldn't you prefer to have a satellite out there that works, rather than one that has been slightly damaged (and even the tiniest amount of damage adds up over time.. so why risk it at all?) remember though this is all IF they are playing it safe, and it's not one of the many many many things which can interrupt the transfer of data - those of which I'm not going to go into right now.
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any way to predict what the impact on earth would be if it was facing us? power outage? we all die? hiding
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NOTHING.
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ONCE... JUST once ... I want to see someone eat crow on GLP for fear mongering, or at least for talking about something they don't understand, but claim to.
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any way to predict what the impact on earth would be if it was facing us? power outage? we all die? hiding
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Depends on the classification. Haven't seen any official statement on how strong this one is yet.

Worst case for something like this would be no electrity for a while.

Humans aren't going anywhere unless we destroy ourselves.

In all likelyhood, very little other than Auroras really far south.
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I like Otoc, I respect his opinion, but doesn't mean we can't disagree about something without calling each other shill or troll or whatever the favorite term is that day. Fact is, this is alot of mass, period, and to assume it wouldn't brute force, may be underestimating it somewhat. I agree, we'll have to wait for the data to come in to see what else this did effect.
By the way, you forgot to mention from around 9 am till around 7 pm last night, no data again, from ahead, behind and SDO. Maybe that was from the numerous events taking place yesterday. If it isn't that bad, why for weeks on end no interruption of data, then twice in two days?
What kills me is this, all these "wizards" around here, who live and breath solar, would have missed this until someone, like me popped up and brought it. Lets wait a day or two and see how many websites pick this up, might be interesting to hear what they say about it.
And according to Nasa Earth/Sun connectivity, we are somewhere over 11117, and only about 100 degrees from 11112. Knowing where the Earth is is pretty important at times as well. SDO is currently to Earth side of the straight line between behind and the Sun. There wasn't any real reason for you to attack that poster that ask that, they admitted they weren't up to date on this stuff. Big difference between me and you, I don't have to belittle someone to get thrills.
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NASA didn't just recently set-up The National Space Weather Program (NSWP) for nothing:

[link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com]

Is it a "remarkable coincidence" that they do this almost in alignment with Mayan 2012 and the coming new age?
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I like Otoc, I respect his opinion, but doesn't mean we can't disagree about something without calling each other shill or troll or whatever the favorite term is that day. Fact is, this is alot of mass, period, and to assume it wouldn't brute force, may be underestimating it somewhat. I agree, we'll have to wait for the data to come in to see what else this did effect.
By the way, you forgot to mention from around 9 am till around 7 pm last night, no data again, from ahead, behind and SDO. Maybe that was from the numerous events taking place yesterday. If it isn't that bad, why for weeks on end no interruption of data, then twice in two days?
What kills me is this, all these "wizards" around here, who live and breath solar, would have missed this until someone, like me popped up and brought it. Lets wait a day or two and see how many websites pick this up, might be interesting to hear what they say about it.
And according to Nasa Earth/Sun connectivity, we are somewhere over 11117, and only about 100 degrees from 11112. Knowing where the Earth is is pretty important at times as well. SDO is currently to Earth side of the straight line between behind and the Sun. There wasn't any real reason for you to attack that poster that ask that, they admitted they weren't up to date on this stuff. Big difference between me and you, I don't have to belittle someone to get thrills.
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First thing, the hes res data on stereo takes over after 2-4 days, and it's pretty rare for that to have gaps in it, but on the low res data, there are gaps almost everyday, SDO has gaps, soho has gaps, ACE has gaps, and stereo has gaps, and they all go offline at point in time, even now soho is going through the keyhole procedure.

Like i said before, the data drops out all the time whether or not anything is going on (on very rare occasions during massive flares the satellites are bombarded with protons, as you can actually see on the still of the youtube video I posted before and the satellite is taken offline to protect it. Perhaps they changed their method and got a bit more weary since back then..).

Right now people can go to stereo and check out your weeks on end theory.. and see there are no data gaps, as above note when the high res kicks in (the 26th as of now) - so that's pointless doing that because it's a different data stream.

The CME is not like a hammer, It spreads out to be far less dense than a feather. the slower it travels the more it tends to spread out - this cme is reasonably slow.

The sun-earth connectivity is a few days ahead, based on the background solar wind velocity. A very fast moving CME (18 hour arrival) and you can shift the earth back towards center a bit.

And for a flare, pretty much dead center on soho and SDO is what is directly facing us and where the partciles from a flare will come from to hit us directly.

By the way SDO is orbiting earth (exactly how far do you think it goes out? 10 million miles?!) and soho is orbiting L1 (which is in line with earth, due to the position of L1 being directly related to the position of earth.)

I don't belittle people for thrills, I belittle people to stop them from posting their idiocy, because it spreads like cancer.

The worst one on GLP I saw was when a pinned thread had a CME stated as a flare in the title..

Do you know how many more people starting to make that mistake after that happened?

You might think, oh it's just one person. But it's not they infect 5 others who infect 5 others and so on, and each time I post here I get some mis-informed idiot coming along and sprouting shit about what they think they know and mis-informing others, especially those who still don't quite know what is what.

GAH! And RAWWR!

You know I must of said on GLP "That is not a flare, it's a CME" at least a few hundred times. And that is only one of the things, every time i see that, I just want to batter them - so forgive me If i'm not the most polite person in the world, give me credit for not trying to be someone I'm not though.

Venting - mostly complete for now :)

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GAH! And RAWWR!

You know I must of said on GLP "That is not a flare, it's a CME" at least a few hundred times. And that is only one of the things, every time i see that, I just want to batter them - so forgive me If i'm not the most polite person in the world, give me credit for not trying to be someone I'm not though.

Venting - mostly complete for now :)
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OTOC = gaah
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I like Otoc, I respect his opinion, but doesn't mean we can't disagree about something without calling each other shill or troll or whatever the favorite term is that day. Fact is, this is alot of mass, period, and to assume it wouldn't brute force, may be underestimating it somewhat. I agree, we'll have to wait for the data to come in to see what else this did effect.
By the way, you forgot to mention from around 9 am till around 7 pm last night, no data again, from ahead, behind and SDO. Maybe that was from the numerous events taking place yesterday. If it isn't that bad, why for weeks on end no interruption of data, then twice in two days?
What kills me is this, all these "wizards" around here, who live and breath solar, would have missed this until someone, like me popped up and brought it. Lets wait a day or two and see how many websites pick this up, might be interesting to hear what they say about it.
And according to Nasa Earth/Sun connectivity, we are somewhere over 11117, and only about 100 degrees from 11112. Knowing where the Earth is is pretty important at times as well. SDO is currently to Earth side of the straight line between behind and the Sun. There wasn't any real reason for you to attack that poster that ask that, they admitted they weren't up to date on this stuff. Big difference between me and you, I don't have to belittle someone to get thrills.
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GAH! And RAWWR!

You know I must of said on GLP "That is not a flare, it's a CME" at least a few hundred times. And that is only one of the things, every time i see that, I just want to batter them - so forgive me If i'm not the most polite person in the world, give me credit for not trying to be someone I'm not though.

Venting - mostly complete for now :)


OTOC = gaah
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Congratulations to Patrick Geryl...fucking nailed it.
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Random coincidence.

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ONCE... JUST once ... I want to see someone eat crow on GLP for fear mongering, or at least for talking about something they don't understand, but claim to.
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I would love to hear the doomtards today talking about the sun eruptions from 2003. Something in the range of X-40 flare erupts and what happened....not much! No loss of communications or internet, and we are still alive. C-Class flare, meh!, whatever. Sorry no doom here earth directed or not.

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Congratulations to Patrick Geryl...fucking nailed it.


Random coincidence.

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Congratulations to Patrick Geryl...fucking nailed it.


Random coincidence.

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ONCE... JUST once ... I want to see someone eat crow on GLP for fear mongering, or at least for talking about something they don't understand, but claim to.




I would love to hear the doomtards today talking about the sun eruptions from 2003. Something in the range of X-40 flare erupts and what happened....not much! No loss of communications or internet, and we are still alive. C-Class flare, meh!, whatever. Sorry no doom here earth directed or not.


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Amen brotha! Quite simply put, unless the sun goes supernova it ain't gonna do shit to earth.
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I like Otoc, I respect his opinion, but doesn't mean we can't disagree about something without calling each other shill or troll or whatever the favorite term is that day. Fact is, this is alot of mass, period, and to assume it wouldn't brute force, may be underestimating it somewhat. I agree, we'll have to wait for the data to come in to see what else this did effect.
By the way, you forgot to mention from around 9 am till around 7 pm last night, no data again, from ahead, behind and SDO. Maybe that was from the numerous events taking place yesterday. If it isn't that bad, why for weeks on end no interruption of data, then twice in two days?
What kills me is this, all these "wizards" around here, who live and breath solar, would have missed this until someone, like me popped up and brought it. Lets wait a day or two and see how many websites pick this up, might be interesting to hear what they say about it.
And according to Nasa Earth/Sun connectivity, we are somewhere over 11117, and only about 100 degrees from 11112. Knowing where the Earth is is pretty important at times as well. SDO is currently to Earth side of the straight line between behind and the Sun. There wasn't any real reason for you to attack that poster that ask that, they admitted they weren't up to date on this stuff. Big difference between me and you, I don't have to belittle someone to get thrills.


First thing, the hes res data on stereo takes over after 2-4 days, and it's pretty rare for that to have gaps in it, but on the low res data, there are gaps almost everyday, SDO has gaps, soho has gaps, ACE has gaps, and stereo has gaps, and they all go offline at point in time, even now soho is going through the keyhole procedure. Is this what happened yesterday? Data was held until 7PM like I said before.

Like i said before, the data drops out all the time whether or not anything is going on (on very rare occasions during massive flares the satellites are bombarded with protons, as you can actually see on the still of the youtube video I posted before and the satellite is taken offline to protect it. Perhaps they changed their method and got a bit more weary since back then..). Yes, I saw it along time ago, not you'res but one just like it.

Right now people can go to stereo and check out your weeks on end theory.. and see there are no data gaps, as above note when the high res kicks in (the 26th as of now) - so that's pointless doing that because it's a different data stream. Data was help back until 7 PM last night as I stated in the above post.

The CME is not like a hammer, It spreads out to be far less dense than a feather. the slower it travels the more it tends to spread out - this cme is reasonably slow.

The sun-earth connectivity is a few days ahead, based on the background solar wind velocity. A very fast moving CME (18 hour arrival) and you can shift the earth back towards center a bit. Thanks, I knew it wasn't exact, just a rough area.

And for a flare, pretty much dead center on soho and SDO is what is directly facing us and where the partciles from a flare will come from to hit us directly.

By the way SDO is orbiting earth (exactly how far do you think it goes out? 10 million miles?!) and soho is orbiting L1 (which is in line with earth, due to the position of LG1 being directly related to the position of earth.) Got a link on this, very interested in keeping tabs on it, thanks.

I don't belittle people for thrills, I belittle people to stop them from posting their idiocy, because it spreads like cancer.

The worst one on GLP I saw was when a pinned thread had a CME stated as a flare in the title..

Do you know how many more people starting to make that mistake after that happened?

You might think, oh it's just one person. But it's not they infect 5 others who infect 5 others and so on, and each time I post here I get some mis-informed idiot coming along and sprouting shit about what they think they know and mis-informing others, especially those who still don't quite know what is what.

GAH! And RAWWR!

You know I must of said on GLP "That is not a flare, it's a CME" at least a few hundred times. And that is only one of the things, every time i see that, I just want to batter them - so forgive me If i'm not the most polite person in the world, give me credit for not trying to be someone I'm not though. All the rest I so agree,lmao. I get asked alot of stuff also, and some of it is rather hard to explain. Sometimes we all get a little flustered at what gets posted here.

Venting - mostly complete for now :)
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I usually don't post, but appreciate the forum and sometimes read or run across things that others may find interesting. By the way data still being held back. Probably come in later this evening. I want to see this bad boy pop lol.
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GAH! And RAWWR!

You know I must of said on GLP "That is not a flare, it's a CME" at least a few hundred times. And that is only one of the things, every time i see that, I just want to batter them - so forgive me If i'm not the most polite person in the world, give me credit for not trying to be someone I'm not though.

Venting - mostly complete for now :)


OTOC = gaah
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Lmao, nice. I felt that way yesterday.
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That would be scary if was heading this way!





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