REPUBLICAN TAKEOVER: Nothing Changes...

This is why our once healthy Democracy which served the American peoples is now nonexistant, foreign intrest in the form of banking concerns and most are controlled by currupt Jews, multinational corporations seeking to bend regulatory laws given to the FDA, EPA just to mention two of the dozen or more of these agencies that are given the task to protect the land and consumers. All corporations lobby for tax exemptions and get them to were most pay little or no taxes.
This is why our Democracy has morphed into a socialist ponzi scheme for the bankers and a goldmine for corporates while the citizens of America are reduced to the level of a third world nation as far as living standards go. If our parents deceased grandparents could see us now our nation has become what they fought two wars to prevent.

The media has already begun the drumbeat of how the republicans will be "toning down" their platform and will try to work together with dems.

Of course.

Nothing changes. And all you voters aren't even off the high of victory before they pull the rug from under you yet again.



Why don't we start a stupid thread about how we're going to throw out everyone you all just elected in 2012?

Scrump can get a "Take America Back! (Again!)" thread.

EVERYTHING CHANGES.

We've got non-negro, non-queer, non-jew, non-liberal,
non-feminists back in power again. HUGE CHANGE.

We're TAKING BACK AMERICA, and if you can't see it,
then you're freaking BLIND.

Dems and Reps keep chasing their tails and running around in the circles designed especially for them.

All day today you read hilarious posts about "winning" and "taking America back."

Dems and reps are worse than little kids fighting over a toy or better yet a doll in a pre-school playground.
In reality that is what you are doing...fighting over puppets.
"My puppet is better than yours..."
or
"My puppet takes it up the ass more than yours..."

The joke is on you.

Last Edited by Kaosofik Gnostik on 11/03/2010 08:07 PM

Not yet....that was only PHASE I.


:gtfo2012:

You're not going to do a single fucking thing to change anything.

All bitching, not a single fucking solution from OP

Go Republicans! Yeah, gotcha. I just puked in the floor and I'm white.
Unfortunatley, you're right AC. What you don't see is that now YOU will be classed as "kitchen help" like all the rest of us that actually work for a living. I really don't care about anyones politics but if you think the modern day Republicans give a flying f##k about the middle class you better take another hit off that crack pipe. The Republicans are carpetbaggers. Just like morticians, they make their living off of others grief. At least morticians provide a needed service.

You don't get it, do you?

The point is not to save the middle class.

The point is to save NON-NEGRO, NON-JEW, NON-QUEER,
NON-FEMINIST, NON-COMMIE AMERICA. THAT IS, WHITE,
STRAIGHT, CAUCASIAN, MALE, REPUBLICAN/RIGHT AMERICA.

Get it now? I hope so, because it is getting tiring,
having to type these explanations.

Ohhh! My bad. I COMPLETLEY MISUNDERSTOOD YOU! I got it now. I COULD I have been SOOO blinded by my democratic leanings?
It's straight Republican ticket for me from now on! Lord. I feel so IGNORANT. I feel I should have died in the womb.
Mea Culpa...Mea Culpa...

You're forgiven, as long as you've now reformed.

Those Demoncrats are tricky bastards! Filling your
mind with seditious, communistic LIES. Good thing
you've seen through their fraud, and recognized
the TRUTH... the TRUTH that the Republican Party
has so assiduously supported for so many years.

Only a fool would think that a "party" change makes things right.

Sorry to say, Republican, Democrat...one and the same. NOTHING will change.

People are stupid. They really think there is a "party" difference and that it really matters??

Stupid is as stupid believes.

Down the tubes we go. Hold on to your ass...it will be a rough ride for 20-30 yrs.

You didn't ask.

However, if you have followed any of my posts, you would see I have in fact offered solutions.

Here are three:


1) A third party outside the corruption that comes into the system for the people rather than for the lobbyists

2) A constitutional convention to strip the government down to its original constitutional limits

Since the first two options can never be allowed by the tyranny in power, then the third option:

3) Pitchforks. This will result in a bloodbath of innocent voters by the tyranny in power.


The current practice is to simply vote for either democrats or republicans and thus approve of the corruption and tyranny in a continuance of the descent to slavery.


Idiot troll.

Told ya.








Same shit, different toilet. Nothing changes because you idiot voters keep voting in the same two-party failures, over and over.

Last Edited by Emmeric on 11/04/2010 04:45 PM

How about we don't need a government, we should be able to respect one another and live peacefully...

Done

See ya after 2012 solitce

On TV recently they openly suggested one of the parties was going out, don't recall which one and we would thus be left with only ONE party. This was a very clear statement on CNN.

Yes. Let's get rid of the snake pit known as the federal government and just have sovereign states.

It would work, don'tcha think?

I am reposting this from Scrump's Critical Election thread to your thread here, Emmeric. It is my response to your 5 suggestions.



Emmeric:

Firstly, I have read all of your posts and they all say the same thing. Secondly, these are suggestions, not solutions. These five points you have listed are merely hypothetical "ideas" which need to be expounded on and then organized into a coherent plan that not only defines the goal, but also the process by which this goal can be achieved.

Although many of the founders, especially George Washington, were not in favor of a two party system, the final reasoning was that a two party system could better provide the required checks and balances needed to best carry out the will of the People. The entirety of our representative form of government is founded around a two party system and at present, America would not benefit from a party system beyond that of two parties. Allow me to explain why.

Say that you do create your political party for the people. You have defined clear goals that a good majority of American's stand behind and want to see implemented, and you have chosen the candidates that you think can best accomplish the task set forth by the will of the people.

Now it is time for Elections. Your third party candidates manage to take 23 seats - 19 in the House and 4 in the Senate. It takes two-thirds of a majority to pass a bill into law. From where will your new party get the required two-thirds? They will have to ally with either the Republican or Democratic Party - make "deals" and compromises, and support ideas that the People do not want in order to get your bill passed. You have your third party, but nothing has changed. Washington politics consumes yet another noble effort leaving the people high and dry.

The Netherlands, for example, has more than 33 political parties. Candidates from many of these parties get elected - 4 here, 2 there, etc. In order for these minority parties to obtain even the possibility to introduce legislation, pass that legislation or repeal any laws or motions, every single party has to group up in order to form a majority. After all of the deals and compromises are hammered out and the aligning of parties creates a “majority” within Parliament, what remains of the elected representatives from those 33 plus political parties is, essentially, two parties. This aligning of the parties can sometimes take months in which no business is done in Parliament.

Jeesh. That was just getting at your first suggestion and I already have a novel here. However, I would like to address your suggestion of a Constitutional Convention.

Under article V of the Constitution, our founding fathers established two methods for future generations to add amendments to the Constitution.

Under method 1: Two-thirds of both houses of Congress can propose an amendment, and then three-fourths of the states ratify it... or not.

Under method 2: Two-thirds (34) of the states call for a federal constitutional convention, and then three-fourths of the states ratify whatever amendments are proposed by the convention.

However, before calling of a Constitutional Convention, the following two points must be taken into account:

1) The convention could abolish or alter the rules of ratification as was done in 1787.

2) Article V authorizes Congress to decide on the mode of ratification: either by State Legislatures or by special State Ratifying Conventions. For example: In 1933 the 21st Amendment – lifting the prohibition on alcohol – was ratified in special state conventions, thus circumventing the legislatures of the states.

Calling a Constitutional Convention is an extremely dangerous endeavor, because the power to restrict a convention is not in the text of the Constitution, and if we start a convention, it could be hijacked by establishment insiders. Those who want to make changes in accord with the Founders’ intent to limit and separate government powers may instead inadvertently end up with a totally new and foreign system of government. If a single amendment is the goal, we can much more safely use the procedure already set out in Article V to propose such an amendment: to have Congress call for a new amendment.

The real problem is not the Constitution itself; the real problem is that the Constitution is being systematically ignored, violated, and misinterpreted. The solution, therefore, must focus on getting back to the Constitution, not “fixing” it. We must seek to reestablish Constitutional Law under this Constitution and restore the Republic which is currently missing from our little experiment in Democracy.

I will have to address your other three suggestions in a later post as this post is already becoming a trilogy.

Last Edited by Khim on 11/07/2010 03:47 PM

Oh, don't I know it. This is why I view the current state move to call a convention with cynicism.

I believe the count is one state shy with a couple of states still considering.

The fact that these states have not moved and there is little call for a convention by the states already passing a call suggests to me that the option is held in check by the system.




I absolutely agree. Everything you said there is exactly the issue we face, and that I have been harping about in my shorter posts.


However, getting our little rat feet up into that voting wheel and running for all we're worth with two parties specifically and baldly ignoring the constitution is not a solution. In fact, it is treason.

The recent republican takeover (I was last a neocon multi-culti republican less than 5 years ago) even now is backpedaling on nearly every promise that got them elected.

This behavior I would have once expected of only democrats, but I have been paying more attention.

Both parties do this.

Until the mass of people understand and then act in mass that voting simply perpetuates the corruption and non-representation, then nothing will change.

Any voting will be corrupted. So even if a third party were to pick up simple-majority votes, I would not expect to see the equivalent elected. Enough fraud goes on just between the two parties that I know the fraud would escalate into a frenzy of unconstitutional abuse as the two parties then ally to repel the invader.

We could say a number of my suggestions can't work (or won't). We can also say, if we admit to ourselves the truth, that voting cannot work either.

Thus, I abstain to maintain my principles and moral dignity.

Thats what you get when you have to vote for the lesser of two Evils, you are still stuck with Evil.

Republitards or Demonrats they are bought and paid for by corporations. we should make it a law where they have to wear patches on thier clothes of those who bought them, just like nascar drivers..LOL

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Here are the FACTS:

The Obama-supporting Dems lost at least 63 seats in the House of
Representatives -- the most since 1932 in any single election.

The Democrats lost at least 682 State Legislative seats!

Every Blue Dog Democrat that supported Obama LOST, driving
the Dems OUT of the South for the most part. The remaining
Dems will become even MORE radically-Liberal, thus they will FAIL!


But wait, there's more:

The FIRST Latino female governor won in New Mexico --
and she was a Conservative Tea Party Republican.

The FIRST Cuban governor won in Florida --
and he was a Conservative Tea Party Republican.

The Texas Legislature has the LARGEST Republican majority
since Reconstruction. Most of the newly-elected State
Congressmen are backed by the Tea Party. In fact, in Texas
(and other states) DO NOT NEED THE VOTES of the Democrats
in the Legislature -- they are Filibuster-proof.




As the Liberals become even MORE Radicalized, they will
CONTINUE to turn off the American Voter, particularly
the Independent Voters.

Liberals -- Political Obscurity is thy future!

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Be glad when there is no one else to blame. Hahaa, so many dumb fucks.

Winning republicans aren't a "punishment" on democrats. You don't understand the system.

A reminder that indeed, nothing changes.

More war for oil and banksters, more greed, more corruption, and more destruction of this country.

Democrats = republicans. Only the fools buy into the partisan rhetoric.