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FED To Buy $500 billion to $1 trillion in government debt

 
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neubarth is an obvious jew that works at the fed


Actually, when taking his commentary up against the likes of yours he seems like the biggest NON-tard on here!

Seriously, all you doomsayers post links to PM true believers who have been crying "the sky is falling" for decades, fringe wierdos, guys with newsletters to sell and nonsense sites like shadowstats and zerohedge (the GLP of financial reporting) and so on.
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zerohedge and shadowstats are no nonsense.
Zerohedge is one of the biggest and most respected financial blogs worldwide...

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11/03/2010 03:11 PM
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Oh joy!

Future Enslavement!
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Oh joy!

Future Enslavement!

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Future ?
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11/03/2010 03:15 PM
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so what is the time line here for the kaboom moment weeks months years..and as the dollar devalues what do the other basket case currencies do...Is this a race down to poo land.
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11/03/2010 03:17 PM
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So we are loaning ourselves money? How does that work?

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so what is the time line here for the kaboom moment weeks months years..and as the dollar devalues what do the other basket case currencies do...Is this a race down to poo land.
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i do love zero hedge for breaking this stuff been there since day 3
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11/03/2010 03:21 PM
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Well, I have PLENTY of debt for sale... CHEAP
 Quoting: GWvet
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They're not "buying debt" -- that's a misnomer.

The U.S. Treasury PRINTING MONEY.
Nothing more.

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11/03/2010 03:22 PM
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neubarth is an obvious jew that works at the fed


Actually, when taking his commentary up against the likes of yours he seems like the biggest NON-tard on here!

Seriously, all you doomsayers post links to PM true believers who have been crying "the sky is falling" for decades, fringe wierdos, guys with newsletters to sell and nonsense sites like shadowstats and zerohedge (the GLP of financial reporting) and so on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53618


Is this some weird justification for how you keep your own finacial house?

Any fiscally sane person would look at the Ponzi scheme the US treasury and fed are running and wonder why those people aren't in jail cause any individual that runs his finances like that quickly finds himself incarcerated.
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11/03/2010 03:26 PM
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So we are loaning ourselves money? How does that work?

hiding

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 Quoting: TripleH
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Oh come on -- it's easy.

You go to your printer and just make more money.

Except when YOU do it, it's called Counterfeiting.
When the Fed does it, they call it "Sound Monetary Policy". LOL


The very fact the Fed is "buying" money from the Treasury --
meaning they can't get Investors to buy the money in Bonds --
should be enough to make anyone go out and buy a few hundred
pounds of dried beans and rice.



When the new Conservative Congress starts de-funding Govt
programs, it's going to be GREAT for out grandchildren, but
it will SUCK for us in the short term.

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11/03/2010 03:34 PM
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Well, I have PLENTY of debt for sale... CHEAP
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They're not "buying debt" -- that's a misnomer.

The U.S. Treasury PRINTING MONEY.
Nothing more.

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Why do they need the fed's permission to do that?
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11/03/2010 03:37 PM
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The FED (a private bank) buys treasuries with phoney printed money and then has the right to collect the interest and principle ("real" money).

Nice work if you can gt it.



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Well, I have PLENTY of debt for sale... CHEAP
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They're not "buying debt" -- that's a misnomer.

The U.S. Treasury PRINTING MONEY.
Nothing more.

.



Why do they need the fed's permission to do that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1149523



The fed loans them errr....something, don't they?
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Well, I have PLENTY of debt for sale... CHEAP
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They're not "buying debt" -- that's a misnomer.

The U.S. Treasury PRINTING MONEY.
Nothing more.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142675


To solve our money issues,we need to get the private sector out of the public function of money printing/ creation.

Fiat money,''and all mediums of exchange are essentialy fiat''can be issued by the governments of sovereighn nations at next to no cost to the people of that nation.Again, the problem is that we are not a sovereighn nation,but one owned by private enities.
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The FED (a private bank) buys treasuries with phoney printed money and then has the right to collect the interest and principle ("real" money).

Nice work if you can gt it.



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1150066


Do they tender for this position?

I have a resume.
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11/03/2010 03:39 PM
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The Great Depression will seem like a picnic as to what awaits us.
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11/03/2010 03:40 PM
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They should just ask Foundation X for money:

Thread: Foundation X to buy British Government for 22 Trillion
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11/03/2010 03:40 PM
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The Great Depression will seem like a picnic as to what awaits us.
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I need to go on a diet anyway.
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11/03/2010 03:42 PM
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They should just ask Foundation X for money:

Thread: Foundation X to buy British Government for 22 Trillion
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22 trillion what though??

lmao
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11/03/2010 03:44 PM

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The Great Depression will seem like a picnic as to what awaits us.
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Stock up, Stock up Where ever you are.

speaking of which, I really never used a strait razor. Had one used on me at a barber, but never used one on myself. Got one and just cut the shit out of my face, lol. World goes to shit, I'm growing a beard.
Rather die standing than live kneeling
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11/03/2010 03:45 PM
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AWESOME BY FROM THE FED'S

The Fed is buying Bonds, US Government Bonds. It doesn't get any safer.

The interest return isn't much, but any profit earned is a profit saved.

And the thing of beauty is that at the end of the bond term the Feds get back the capital they used to purchase the bonds, so its really not a debt, its more like an asset.

The Federal Reserve turns National debts into National assets.

GO USA!

hf
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not quite poster...fed is buying bonds because NO ONE ELSE WILL and that is the problem...not china, or any oil rich country wants dollars because the dollar is not the currency reserve in the world anymore...bad thing this printing dollars and buying up your own debt!

bannana republic coming soon!
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11/03/2010 03:48 PM
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How can anybody with only a partial working brain not see the that this is just a big fucking ponzi scheme?

It's a major circle jerk, they print up the fake money, loan it to the government with interest, then buy the bonds and debt when things are tight to keep the game afloat.
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11/03/2010 03:49 PM
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the Fed is a semi private central bank that illegally creates fiat currency that has no backing other than the coercive power of government.
 Quoting: Is-It-True



The Federal Reserve banks are private corporations owned by the participating banks (Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc.).

US citizens are the backing for the debt - with the coercive power of government to ensure you pay up.
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11/03/2010 03:53 PM
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There is always a market for Bonds and Notes. It is called the FED. That is the reason why Congress created the FED.
If we did not have it, the interest rate would be forced up by the law of supply and demand. If there was little demand, then the interest rate to sell the bond would soar. Since the FED is there to buy, the interest rate can be held to a realistic value. God Bless the FED.

realistic value? This would be about 4x the current rates... The FED is creating a dreamland since decades and awakening will be downright tough.


Remember when the FED owns the notes and bonds, we effectively do not pay interest. The FED will be buying the paper from Japan and China, and that decreases our financial support to those two countries. That is right, we have been financially supporting them for a great many years now. So now, our monstrous economy has decided to cut back on support for the lesser countries out there. That is a good thing.
 Quoting: JoeNeubarth


Really??? The U.S. Economy just decided to have a monstrous cut back, or it was forced to??? What is your reasoning?? All U.S. manufacturing has been forced over seas, and we are at the whim of China when it comes to trade and our consumer culture. The other countries are having to cut back and are not trusting our economy right now because they can directly see what they are shipping out to the United States. And it is a lot less than they used too. I suggest you take your bullshit fed loving else where. Idiot!
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the Fed is a semi private central bank that illegally creates fiat currency that has no backing other than the coercive power of government.



The Federal Reserve banks are private corporations owned by the participating banks (Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc.).

US citizens are the backing for the debt - with the coercive power of government to ensure you pay up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1107134


Very ironic is it not,since the ''proper'' function of government is to PROTECT the people FROM this sort of corruption !
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Didn't Gerald Calente say this would happen the day after the election?
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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11/03/2010 04:04 PM
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[link to finance.yahoo.com]

Great investment, the Fed's are gonna make a small profit (interest) and the White House could use that profit to help pay for Public programs.

peace

You are sort of on track.

The FED takes the interest the the US Government pays on the bonds and notes and deposits it in the US Treasury. We are free next month to use it again to pay that month's interest.

Thus, you see, we really do not pay interest on the Bonds and Notes when the FED owns them. Best damn system in the world.
 Quoting: JoeNeubarth

The private FED bank corporation directs the US Treasury to PRINT money to buy said Bonds and Notes. So who actually buys them ? You and I through inflation. Washington's war debt is being placed on the American's by an inflation tax. This could lead to Zimbabwe style inflation here and abroad where USD are used.
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The Dollar is about to make a rapid move North:

Thread: The US $ is about to surprise all - MUST SEE THE CHART(S)
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There is always a market for Bonds and Notes. It is called the FED. That is the reason why Congress created the FED.
If we did not have it, the interest rate would be forced up by the law of supply and demand. If there was little demand, then the interest rate to sell the bond would soar. Since the FED is there to buy, the interest rate can be held to a realistic value. God Bless the FED.

realistic value? This would be about 4x the current rates... The FED is creating a dreamland since decades and awakening will be downright tough.


Remember when the FED owns the notes and bonds, we effectively do not pay interest. The FED will be buying the paper from Japan and China, and that decreases our financial support to those two countries. That is right, we have been financially supporting them for a great many years now. So now, our monstrous economy has decided to cut back on support for the lesser countries out there. That is a good thing.
 Quoting: JoeNeubarth

You and the Fed are wrong. I could care less about interest. They have to inflate the currency to buy the debt in the first place. Washington's war debt is out of control.

Fed Easing May Mean 20% Dollar Drop: Bill Gross
[link to m.cnbc.com]
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The Fed's big gamble: Here's what could go wrong

yorkie 3 minutes ago

this is just the beginning. Does the name Robert Mugabe mean anything to you? It should.[color=red] The United States is now instituting policies that Mugabe instituted in Zimbabwe. If you don't know what happened in Zimbabwe when Mugabe began monetizing debt, by all means do the the research yourself and find out exactly what occurred.

the Fed is a semi private central bank that illegally creates fiat currency that has no backing other than the coercive power of government. The Federal Reserve is also no more a Federal agency than Federal Express would be considered.

If you go to the Fed's own website, whether it be the Fed in Atlanta, New York, San Francisco or Dallas..it says right on its' monogram..Federal Reserve Bank Incorporated..established May 18, 1914. I don't know about you, but I don't know of any government agency that is incorporated.

The Fed is in place so the government can borrow an unlimited amount of money at any time to finance its reckless spending projects. Whether they be a war, social programs or bailouts like we witnessed in 2008. The government likes the fed because they can then spend far more than they take in from taxes on various programs that we can't afford as a country or on the expansion of the American Empire under the guise of spreading freedom and democracy around the globe. By being in place, we the people, then pay back for their reckless spending, thru the hidden tax of inflation. If you learn nothing else, understand that inflation is, in fact, a tax!

If the Fed did not exist. And the congress can end the fed at any time, they created it by passing the Federal Reserve Act in 1913. Then the government would have to "ask" the american people to pay for any project in the form of direct taxes. A certain amount per family per year. We also would no longer have to pay a semi private company interest in order to finance our own government.

I sincerely hope americans wake up and wake up soon. Unfortunately, time is running



Yes I think our time is done. I am betting it will be about a trillion at 100 billion a month or more. The only reason I say this is cause yahoo has been pretty right here lately.
Not cause they are a great news site, but because they are controlled by the TPTB. Hope everyone has prepared.
 Quoting: BigNutChuck




It's not just the FED, although they are crooks, too.

Read this:

[link to warriorsonce.com]


and go here to see how deep it is. Look at the corporations, banks, etc. involved here. You know all of the politicians are invested deeply in this being successful.

Now, go here and watch this:

[link to newzeal.blogspot.com]


This country ceased to exist many years ago. We were sold out by our government a long time ago, without our consent or knowledge.

Welcome to the New World Order.


rant
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The Federal Reserve banks are private corporations owned by the participating banks (Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc.).

US citizens are the backing for the debt - with the coercive power of government to ensure you pay up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1107134

I don't think BoA owns the Fed. It may be the same people that own both banks, but the Fed is owned by twelve fed banks (NY Fed Bank, ect) who are in turn owned by the international bankers.





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