Discovering the Urantia Book

Mr. Baloney.. you go around tell ME

I hit the post button instead of the BOLD button... Now look above Mr. Baloney because you are always telling me Humans are never gods and all that and you just posted as truth some of the TRUTH that is in your bible which I have BOLDED and enlarged above.. hopefully before hitting the wrong button.

However the entire rest of the quote from genesis is pure bullshit for God does not wear pants and there is your first clue. Only the God knowing Human being wears pants or dresses or whatever.

The planet was FULLY POPULATED before ADAM and EVE came 38000 years ago in fact and you can prove this in genersis if you thing because the people in genesis knew other people and married them. GROW YOUR MIND and THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU READ for once. You have never read the UB there fore you cannot COMPARE with the bible now can you..... NOPE you cannot.

One definition of "tree of life" is the living and growing of the spirit. The actual TREE of LIFE in the garden was a planet that provided ENERGY nutrients Adam and Eve needed that are NOT in plants on this world.

This is the most misogynistic, racist, blasphemist load of demon channeled crap ever published. Don't fall for the garbage. Jesus Christ is not Christ Michael and Hatonn is Satan.

Ye Be Warned.

Wonder how people get so aggressive when someone posts anything different than a Bible quote.....

Wonder how they can call themselves Christians when in- and outside they act so hateful towards their brethren.

Christ is weeping I know that for a fact and all the Bible-quotes wont erase that.

But I guess thats what religion does to People....so excuse me for asking....where is the love that Jesus taught you???

This interesting topic from the UB explains nicely the corruption of the religion of Jesus into Christianity. I doesn't include the corruption since then by the Vatican and thru the churches. These people consider themselves "special" which is what they are taught and feel and thus they because they do not understand Jesus.. go on to allow all manners of hate and war.

From paper 196 still.


2. The Religion of Jesus

196:2.1 (2091.10) Some day a reformation in the Christian church may strike deep enough to get back to the unadulterated religious teachings of Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. You may preach a religion about Jesus, but, perforce, you must live the religion of Jesus. In the enthusiasm of Pentecost, Peter unintentionally inaugurated a new religion, the religion of the risen and glorified Christ. The Apostle Paul later on transformed this new gospel into Christianity, a religion embodying his own theologic views and portraying his own personal experience with the Jesus of the Damascus road. The gospel of the kingdom is founded on the personal religious experience of the Jesus of Galilee; Christianity is founded almost exclusively on the personal religious experience of the Apostle Paul. Almost the whole of the New Testament is devoted, not to the portrayal of the significant and inspiring religious life of Jesus, but to a discussion of Paul’s religious experience and to a portrayal of his personal religious convictions. The only notable exceptions to this statement, aside from certain parts of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are the Book of Hebrews and the Epistle of James. Even Peter, in his writing, only once reverted to the personal religious life of his Master. The New Testament is a superb Christian document, but it is only meagerly Jesusonian.

196:2.2 (2091.11) Jesus’ life in the flesh portrays a transcendent religious growth from the early ideas of primitive awe and human reverence up through years of personal spiritual communion until he finally arrived at that advanced and exalted status of the consciousness of his oneness with the Father. And thus, in one short life, did Jesus traverse that experience of religious spiritual progression which man begins on earth and ordinarily achieves only at the conclusion of his long sojourn in the spirit training schools of the successive levels of the pre-Paradise career. Jesus progressed from a purely human consciousness of the faith certainties of personal religious experience to the sublime spiritual heights of the positive realization of his divine nature and to the consciousness of his close association with the Universal Father in the management of a universe. He progressed from the humble status of mortal dependence which prompted him spontaneously to say to the one who called him Good Teacher, “Why do you call me good? None is good but God,” to that sublime consciousness of achieved divinity which led him to exclaim, “Which one of you convicts me of sin?” And this progressing ascent from the human to the divine was an exclusively mortal achievement. And when he had thus attained divinity, he was still the same human Jesus, the Son of Man as well as the Son of God.

196:2.3 (2092.1) Mark, Matthew, and Luke retain something of the picture of the human Jesus as he engaged in the superb struggle to ascertain the divine will and to do that will. John presents a picture of the triumphant Jesus as he walked on earth in the full consciousness of divinity. The great mistake that has been made by those who have studied the Master’s life is that some have conceived of him as entirely human, while others have thought of him as only divine. Throughout his entire experience he was truly both human and divine, even as he yet is.

196:2.4 (2092.2) But the greatest mistake was made in that, while the human Jesus was recognized as having a religion, the divine Jesus (Christ) almost overnight became a religion. Paul’s Christianity made sure of the adoration of the divine Christ, but it almost wholly lost sight of the struggling and valiant human Jesus of Galilee, who, by the valor of his personal religious faith and the heroism of his indwelling Adjuster, ascended from the lowly levels of humanity to become one with divinity, thus becoming the new and living way whereby all mortals may so ascend from humanity to divinity. Mortals in all stages of spirituality and on all worlds may find in the personal life of Jesus that which will strengthen and inspire them as they progress from the lowest spirit levels up to the highest divine values, from the beginning to the end of all personal religious experience.

196:2.5 (2092.3) At the time of the writing of the New Testament, the authors not only most profoundly believed in the divinity of the risen Christ, but they also devotedly and sincerely believed in his immediate return to earth to consummate the heavenly kingdom. This strong faith in the Lord’s immediate return had much to do with the tendency to omit from the record those references which portrayed the purely human experiences and attributes of the Master. The whole Christian movement tended away from the human picture of Jesus of Nazareth toward the exaltation of the risen Christ, the glorified and soon-returning Lord Jesus Christ.

196:2.6 (2092.4) Jesus founded the religion of personal experience in doing the will of God and serving the human brotherhood; Paul founded a religion in which the glorified Jesus became the object of worship and the brotherhood consisted of fellow believers in the divine Christ. In the bestowal of Jesus these two concepts were potential in his divine-human life, and it is indeed a pity that his followers failed to create a unified religion which might have given proper recognition to both the human and the divine natures of the Master as they were inseparably bound up in his earth life and so gloriously set forth in the original gospel of the kingdom.

196:2.7 (2093.1) You would be neither shocked nor disturbed by some of Jesus’ strong pronouncements if you would only remember that he was the world’s most wholehearted and devoted religionist. He was a wholly consecrated mortal, unreservedly dedicated to doing his Father’s will. Many of his apparently hard sayings were more of a personal confession of faith and a pledge of devotion than commands to his followers. And it was this very singleness of purpose and unselfish devotion that enabled him to effect such extraordinary progress in the conquest of the human mind in one short life. Many of his declarations should be considered as a confession of what he demanded of himself rather than what he required of all his followers. In his devotion to the cause of the kingdom, Jesus burned all bridges behind him; he sacrificed all hindrances to the doing of his Father’s will.

196:2.8 (2093.2) Jesus blessed the poor because they were usually sincere and pious; he condemned the rich because they were usually wanton and irreligious. He would equally condemn the irreligious pauper and commend the consecrated and worshipful man of wealth.

196:2.9 (2093.3) Jesus led men to feel at home in the world; he delivered them from the slavery of taboo and taught them that the world was not fundamentally evil. He did not long to escape from his earthly life; he mastered a technique of acceptably doing the Father’s will while in the flesh. He attained an idealistic religious life in the very midst of a realistic world. Jesus did not share Paul’s pessimistic view of humankind. The Master looked upon men as the sons of God and foresaw a magnificent and eternal future for those who chose survival. He was not a moral skeptic; he viewed man positively, not negatively. He saw most men as weak rather than wicked, more distraught than depraved. But no matter what their status, they were all God’s children and his brethren.

196:2.10 (2093.4) He taught men to place a high value upon themselves in time and in eternity. Because of this high estimate which Jesus placed upon men, he was willing to spend himself in the unremitting service of humankind. And it was this infinite worth of the finite that made the golden rule a vital factor in his religion. What mortal can fail to be uplifted by the extraordinary faith Jesus has in him?

196:2.11 (2093.5) Jesus offered no rules for social advancement; his was a religious mission, and religion is an exclusively individual experience. The ultimate goal of society’s most advanced achievement can never hope to transcend Jesus’ brotherhood of men based on the recognition of the fatherhood of God. The ideal of all social attainment can be realized only in the coming of this divine kingdom.

Thank you,will make it my evening reading & contemplate about it. Bold: is what I strongly believe.

Anonymous Coward from Germany, above you posted an emoticon sharing flowers, so are you a female?, and do you know URANTIA since this recent present topic or since when did you know about this epochal divine revelation for humanity???, so exactly since when, if i may ask you?.

'UBtheNEWS: Various Scientific Corroborations, Urantia Book'

Hello Marco,

I came to know about the Urantia Book through a well known female, can't say her name nor mention her web-page. If I do, this thread will get deleted....but I think you know by now who I am talking about.

Thanks again for bringing this subject back to life...

I'm reading here almost every night!

NWO Propaganda. New Age,masonic drivel. You can't really believe that shit after reading it, can you?

See it like this: I read what makes sense to me, you read what makes sense to you. Sounds good to me.

Have a blessed day.

Germany there is one of candi's dimwitted dark thug culties they work tirelessly lying, deceiving, and leading folks astray from God and away from his love for false channeled craprantia garbage.

Like the Bible the Urantia Book is just a wee bit long-winded. Just a wee. Gimme a break and get to the point already.

Don't worry about me, I am good with GOD. I trust & have faith in my Creator.

He did not forbid to seek knowledge, he encouraged even to seek knowledge, to seek truth. So I seek for knowledge which bears truth.

unfortunately craprantia book doesn't have truth or knowldege.....neither does your cult leader.

but since when do you know URANTIA, Germany?.
no i don't know her, you mentioned she has a website or page, would you please gimme more clues of who she is or her website¿. thank you!.

Sorry, I can't. But I know of the existence of the Urantia Book since about 7 Years. There were discussions about it right here before...think it was about 3-4 years ago, if I remember it right.
Haven't been on here for quite a long time because all the good stuff one could work with got deleted & people started to behave towards each-other in a terrible, terrible way.

This is why I come here just to read & look for material that I can work with. Please don't get me wrong, but I will leave it at that. Don't want your thread to get deleted.

I think quite a few come visit your thread.

Thanks for your work!

Blessings

My "cult-leader" is GOD and GOD alone.
And please don't "warn" me. I let you go about your own business without any hard feelings & I would appreciate you doing the same for me.

Thank you & have a blessed day

Thanks, 'Germany', you say you can't tell me who she is, I think I know it's because of the very strict guidelines of this Forum. ...
But this is not my thread, I have just one URANTIA thread here at GLP.
And i'm just curious: do you have a husband & kids & maybe pets???. Blessings!. :D

Yes, all of the above

still can't read Mr. Baloney? and per the one you quoted.. Jesus IS Christ MIchael and who ELSE WOULD YOU WANT HIM TO BE? This world got blessed. CHrist Michael is the creator of a local universe to which we belong and so far there are 3.8 million evolutionary planets that have evolved INTELLIGENT LIFE.. There will be eventually an estimated 10 million. This is the only planet Christ MIchael will ever directly bestow himself on and amongst the reasons for that I leave to you ponder the NEED for it based on what can be gleaned in the literature at this time.

Do you not realize the IMPORT of this? Apparently not.. both of you. Are you that frighted of READING this book Mr. B.. what is behind your motives to trash something you have NOT read? The honest growing human wants to know all things.. where is your honest growing mind? You do not want to know or you are engaged in working with the dark side and that won't get you anywhere ultimately either for you will still on low planets until you either grow or give up your life eternal.

what you should get from reading the whole book is, The Universe is huge. so huge they havent even reached the God trinity, it just goes on and on and on and on ..... levels and levels and levels, and worlds of existence on and on and on and on.


Existence is not anything other than movement to a cause, a huge mendalbrot of continuence.


Why don't your read the Kolbrin bible. it tells of the stories of man and the struggles of morality and living laws.

nope your craprantia body sharing duo isn't Jesus, this is though:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

regards the commentary above about this thread and the UB it is MY thread. I started it.
I am going to probably repost this portion.. can't remember if I posted it a few days ago or if it was posted .


At any rate the purpose of the thread is to be USED.

The Faith of Jesus

196:0.1 (2087.1) JESUS enjoyed a sublime and wholehearted faith in God. He experienced the ordinary ups and downs of mortal existence, but he never religiously doubted the certainty of God’s watchcare and guidance. His faith was the outgrowth of the insight born of the activity of the divine presence, his indwelling Adjuster. His faith was neither traditional nor merely intellectual; it was wholly personal and purely spiritual. (as how it will become more and more on this world-C)

196:0.2 (2087.2) The human Jesus saw God as being holy, just, and great, as well as being true, beautiful, and good. All these attributes of divinity he focused in his mind as the “will of the Father in heaven.” Jesus’ God was at one and the same time “The Holy One of Israel” and “The living and loving Father in heaven.” The concept of God as a Father was not original with Jesus, but he exalted and elevated the idea into a sublime experience by achieving a new revelation of God and by proclaiming that every mortal creature is a child of this Father of love, a son of God. (this mostly got left out of the "bible" and out of Christian teachings in the buildings of worship-C)

196:0.3 (2087.3) Jesus did not cling to faith in God as would a struggling soul at war with the universe and at death grips with a hostile and sinful world; he did not resort to faith merely as a consolation in the midst of difficulties or as a comfort in threatened despair; faith was not just an illusory compensation for the unpleasant realities and the sorrows of living. In the very face of all the natural difficulties and the temporal contradictions of mortal existence, he experienced the tranquillity of supreme and unquestioned trust in God and felt the tremendous thrill of living, by faith, in the very presence of the heavenly Father. And this triumphant faith was a living experience of actual spirit attainment. Jesus’ great contribution to the values of human experience was not that he revealed so many new ideas about the Father in heaven, but rather that he so magnificently and humanly demonstrated a new and higher type of living faith in God. Never on all the worlds of this universe, in the life of any one mortal, did God ever become such a living reality as in the human experience of Jesus of Nazareth.

196:0.4 (2087.4) In the Master’s life on Urantia, this and all other worlds of the local creation discover a new and higher type of religion, religion based on personal spiritual relations with the Universal Father and wholly validated by the supreme authority of genuine personal experience. This living faith of Jesus was more than an intellectual reflection, and it was not a mystic meditation. (True faith is always validated by PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. It cannot be validated by copy catting and memorizing stuff-C)

196:0.5 (2087.5) Theology may fix, formulate, define, and dogmatize faith, but in the human life of Jesus faith was personal, living, original, spontaneous, and purely spiritual. This faith was not reverence for tradition nor a mere intellectual belief which he held as a sacred creed, but rather a sublime experience and a profound conviction which securely held him. His faith was so real and all-encompassing that it absolutely swept away any spiritual doubts and effectively destroyed every conflicting desire. Nothing was able to tear him away from the spiritual anchorage of this fervent, sublime, and undaunted faith. Even in the face of apparent defeat or in the throes of disappointment and threatening despair, he calmly stood in the divine presence free from fear and fully conscious of spiritual invincibility. Jesus enjoyed the invigorating assurance of the possession of unflinching faith, and in each of life’s trying situations he unfailingly exhibited an unquestioning loyalty to the Father’s will. And this superb faith was undaunted even by the cruel and crushing threat of an ignominious death.

196:0.6 (2088.1) In a religious genius, strong spiritual faith so many times leads directly to disastrous fanaticism, to exaggeration of the religious ego, but it was not so with Jesus. He was not unfavorably affected in his practical life by his extraordinary faith and spirit attainment because this spiritual exaltation was a wholly unconscious and spontaneous soul expression of his personal experience with God.

196:0.7 (2088.2) The all-consuming and indomitable spiritual faith of Jesus never became fanatical, for it never attempted to run away with his well-balanced intellectual judgments concerning the proportional values of practical and commonplace social, economic, and moral life situations. The Son of Man was a splendidly unified human personality; he was a perfectly endowed divine being; he was also magnificently co-ordinated as a combined human and divine being functioning on earth as a single personality. Always did the Master co-ordinate the faith of the soul with the wisdom-appraisals of seasoned experience. Personal faith, spiritual hope, and moral devotion were always correlated in a matchless religious unity of harmonious association with the keen realization of the reality and sacredness of all human loyalties — personal honor, family love, religious obligation, social duty, and economic necessity. (And it is this that is proof of finishing the 7th circle.. the discovery divinity in self which promotes the FUSION with the Indwelling Divine spirit.. all those experiences over the long period before becomes UNITIZED before fusion can occur-C)

196:0.8 (2088.3) The faith of Jesus visualized all spirit values as being found in the kingdom of God; therefore he said, “Seek first the kingdom of heaven.” Jesus saw in the advanced and ideal fellowship of the kingdom the achievement and fulfillment of the “will of God.” The very heart of the prayer which he taught his disciples was, “Your kingdom come; your will be done.” Having thus conceived of the kingdom as comprising the will of God, he devoted himself to the cause of its realization with amazing self-forgetfulness and unbounded enthusiasm. But in all his intense mission and throughout his extraordinary life there never appeared the fury of the fanatic nor the superficial frothiness of the religious egotist.

196:0.9 (2088.4) The Master’s entire life was consistently conditioned by this living faith, this sublime religious experience. This spiritual attitude wholly dominated his thinking and feeling, his believing and praying, his teaching and preaching. This personal faith of a son in the certainty and security of the guidance and protection of the heavenly Father imparted to his unique life a profound endowment of spiritual reality. And yet, despite this very deep consciousness of close relationship with divinity, this Galilean, God’s Galilean, when addressed as Good Teacher, instantly replied, “Why do you call me good?” When we stand confronted by such splendid self-forgetfulness, we begin to understand how the Universal Father found it possible so fully to manifest himself to him and reveal himself through him to the mortals of the realms.

196:0.10 (2088.5) Jesus brought to God, as a man of the realm, the greatest of all offerings: the consecration and dedication of his own will to the majestic service of doing the divine will. Jesus always and consistently interpreted religion wholly in terms of the Father’s will. When you study the career of the Master, as concerns prayer or any other feature of the religious life, look not so much for what he taught as for what he did. Jesus never prayed as a religious duty. To him prayer was a sincere expression of spiritual attitude, a declaration of soul loyalty, a recital of personal devotion, an expression of thanksgiving, an avoidance of emotional tension, a prevention of conflict, an exaltation of intellection, an ennoblement of desire, a vindication of moral decision, an enrichment of thought, an invigoration of higher inclinations, a consecration of impulse, a clarification of viewpoint, a declaration of faith, a transcendental surrender of will, a sublime assertion of confidence, a revelation of courage, the proclamation of discovery, a confession of supreme devotion, the validation of consecration, a technique for the adjustment of difficulties, and the mighty mobilization of the combined soul powers to withstand all human tendencies toward selfishness, evil, and sin. He lived just such a life of prayerful consecration to the doing of his Father’s will and ended his life triumphantly with just such a prayer. The secret of his unparalleled religious life was this consciousness of the presence of God; and he attained it by intelligent prayer and sincere worship — unbroken communion with God — and not by leadings, voices, visions, or extraordinary religious practices.

196:0.11 (2089.1) In the earthly life of Jesus, religion was a living experience, a direct and personal movement from spiritual reverence to practical righteousness. The faith of Jesus bore the transcendent fruits of the divine spirit. His faith was not immature and credulous like that of a child, but in many ways it did resemble the unsuspecting trust of the child mind. Jesus trusted God much as the child trusts a parent. He had a profound confidence in the universe — just such a trust as the child has in its parental environment. Jesus’ wholehearted faith in the fundamental goodness of the universe very much resembled the child’s trust in the security of its earthly surroundings. He depended on the heavenly Father as a child leans upon its earthly parent, and his fervent faith never for one moment doubted the certainty of the heavenly Father’s overcare. He was not disturbed seriously by fears, doubts, and skepticism. Unbelief did not inhibit the free and original expression of his life. He combined the stalwart and intelligent courage of a full-grown man with the sincere and trusting optimism of a believing child. His faith grew to such heights of trust that it was devoid of fear.

196:0.12 (2089.2) The faith of Jesus attained the purity of a child’s trust. His faith was so absolute and undoubting that it responded to the charm of the contact of fellow beings and to the wonders of the universe. His sense of dependence on the divine was so complete and so confident that it yielded the joy and the assurance of absolute personal security. There was no hesitating pretense in his religious experience. In this giant intellect of the full-grown man the faith of the child reigned supreme in all matters relating to the religious consciousness. It is not strange that he once said, “Except you become as a little child, you shall not enter the kingdom.” Notwithstanding that Jesus’ faith was childlike, it was in no sense childish.

196:0.13 (2089.3) Jesus does not require his disciples to believe in him but rather to believe with him, believe in the reality of the love of God and in full confidence accept the security of the assurance of sonship with the heavenly Father. The Master desires that all his followers should fully share his transcendent faith. Jesus most touchingly challenged his followers, not only to believe what he believed, but also to believe as he believed. This is the full significance of his one supreme requirement, “Follow me.”

196:0.14 (2090.1) Jesus’ earthly life was devoted to one great purpose — doing the Father’s will, living the human life religiously and by faith. The faith of Jesus was trusting, like that of a child, but it was wholly free from presumption. He made robust and manly decisions, courageously faced manifold disappointments, resolutely surmounted extraordinary difficulties, and unflinchingly confronted the stern requirements of duty. It required a strong will and an unfailing confidence to believe what Jesus believed and as he believed.
(as to Christianity.. understand Jesus was NOT a Christian. This religion did NOT exist and he diid not join a scripted religion. Just because it bears the word Christ within it.. most christians have yet to understand that doing the FATHERS WILL means DOING and Living WHAT is RIGHT.. the searching for RIGHT. I can say a huge problem on this world 2000 years later is the lack of SEARCHING FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. )

what point do YOU want to get to for it is YOUR choosing which point. You are going to have cosmic contact.. that is one good point. The rest obviously if you read any of what is posted is already obvious to those seeking MORE.

Mr. Baloney.. continuously posting a lie as you do from the bible is never going to make it true.

Yes that is what is meant by making ones personal ascension. It comes as the 7 circles are attained. It is the fusion that makes one an "ascended master" per the new age terminology.

Fusion writes one into the "book of life" and you are given your stellar name. Before fusion one is a faith son of the father . After Fusion one is a REAL ACTUAL Son of the Father and has been conferred as ETERNAL.

And there is going on the ascension of the PERSONAL BEING commonly called GAIA on this world. When this world was first seeded with life the FORMING GAIA was not self conscious. SHE IS NOW and is making her own ascension which involves fusion also with the FATHER. It is a bit different than the human fusion with the indwelling TA.

Its a slower process. It is accomplished by the WAVE I have been teaching about which over time changes her very physical body and all bodies evolving on it... into "spirit matter". In the fusion of the morontial soul with the Thought Adjuster the meat suit is consumed. In this fusion with the Father.. Gaia's body and bodies upon her are not consumed. They are changed.