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++++ How can 8 people survive a Nuclear explosion at Ground-Fucken-Zero ??? Biggest Conspiracy of All TIME !!! ++++ (Updated)

 
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:Han Agrument is :
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Stolen! chuckle That one rocks!
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Cool thread 5 stars
Cui Bono?
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An interesting unfolding of events told from a different perspective; had read many articles investigating Nagasaki and Hiroshima, indeed, there is very sound evidence to suggest that (as usual) what unfolded and what was told unfolded were different things.

There's no doubt in my mind of this.

There's still room for debate, as far as I care to perceive, about whether or not these detonations where falsified.
I incline myself to think not, with the bias instilled on my mind from childhood in mind.

The reason being is that I browsed the ideas of Bruce L. Cathie and I can spot certain misunderstandings he harbors as for how the universe works, some of which have been indirectly addressed by writings of Walter Russel.
This being said, I doubt a person with understanding in his hand couldn't address the sensitivity issues with the triggers (which have been written about), and I don't seem to grasp why Cathie would presume the necessity for alignment with the sun is necessary for a nuclear detonation.

Then again, this is so not up my alley, I incline myself to centripetal, implosive pondering, rather than centrifugal, explosive such as in bombs; don't take my word, in short.

But yet, my biggest hangover about this idea is the writer of said idea, Eric Jon Phelphs.
Not the most credible person, to say the least.
Wasn't he an admitted Zionist ? "Good Racist" or whatever it was ?

Anyways, good post
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You'd also think. Considering it was a War (aswell as Historical) changing event. There'd be more than just 4 seconds of reel for each bomb. Where's the entire footage?
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exactly ... whats there to hide ? ... oh wait, 2 explosions with 1 bomb!!!! lol

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:Han Agrument is :

Stolen! chuckle That one rocks!
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yeah ... he burned me with that one LoL chuckle
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Cool thread 5 stars
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Thanks Frigg! cheers
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An interesting unfolding of events told from a different perspective; had read many articles investigating Nagasaki and Hiroshima, indeed, there is very sound evidence to suggest that (as usual) what unfolded and what was told unfolded were different things.

There's no doubt in my mind of this.

There's still room for debate, as far as I care to perceive, about whether or not these detonations where falsified.
I incline myself to think not, with the bias instilled on my mind from childhood in mind.

The reason being is that I browsed the ideas of Bruce L. Cathie and I can spot certain misunderstandings he harbors as for how the universe works, some of which have been indirectly addressed by writings of Walter Russel.
This being said, I doubt a person with understanding in his hand couldn't address the sensitivity issues with the triggers (which have been written about), and I don't seem to grasp why Cathie would presume the necessity for alignment with the sun is necessary for a nuclear detonation.

Then again, this is so not up my alley, I incline myself to centripetal, implosive pondering, rather than centrifugal, explosive such as in bombs; don't take my word, in short.

But yet, my biggest hangover about this idea is the writer of said idea, Eric Jon Phelphs.
Not the most credible person, to say the least.
Wasn't he an admitted Zionist ? "Good Racist" or whatever it was ?


Anyways, good post
 Quoting: Secret 1168418


Eric Jon Phelps is a very religious person and takes the Bibles Word of God seriously. After so many years of research and studying of history he is shocked and disturbed of what the Jesuit masters back at Rome did and are up to. Some things he said about race were Bible based and obviously he does not sugar-coat anything and is fully anti-multiculturalism, maybe some of those truthful things pissed some people off ... and the rest they attack him with is total shill bull-crap. He proved to be right again and again, so I dont really care what others think ... he knows what he is talking about and I agree with him.
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Bruce Cathie - The Harmonic Code

[link to www.disclose.tv]
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Bruce Cathie - The Harmonic Code

[link to www.disclose.tv]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1168328

"Too bad, Sir Isaac, they dimmed your renown
And turned your great science upside down.
Now a long haired crank, Einstein by name,
Puts on your high teaching all the blame.
Says: matter and force are transmutable
And wrong the laws you thought immutable."
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I've seen this before. It is propoganda.

The catholics did this after the Christmas tsunami in Indonesia. A fake picture circulated showing a completely leveled zone of several blocks. In the middle was a completely in tact catholic church.

both stories are false.

The Japan survival story claims that the men performed certain rituals each day that protected them. Bogus.
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you have no clue about the types of thermonuclear detonations and their dynamics in different environments.
bsflag
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do you?
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Probably the dumbest conspiracy I have ever read.

Tya for the entertainment.
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Still don't know what to think about this.
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Still don't know what to think about this.
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it fits the pattern. the ability should be just about unquestioned. kick ass dudes of the highest order. army of jesus no less.
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the greatest conspiracy theory of the 20th century. bump bump bump
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ohyeah
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Probably the dumbest conspiracy I have ever read.

Tya for the entertainment.
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sheeplebah
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Bruce Cathie - The Harmonic Code

[link to www.disclose.tv]

"Too bad, Sir Isaac, they dimmed your renown
And turned your great science upside down.
Now a long haired crank, Einstein by name,
Puts on your high teaching all the blame.
Says: matter and force are transmutable
And wrong the laws you thought immutable."
Nikola Tesla, Novice
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hmm
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Re: ++++ How can 8 people survive a Nuclear explosion at Ground-Fucken-Zero ??? Biggest Conspiracy of All TIME !!! ++++ (Updated)
The article sounds plausible but in reality they would have to be at least 100 yards away and down in the ground at least 15 feet. To be directly underneath the detonation is BS in my book. That kind of force would require a shield like 5-10 feet thick solid steel which would be really hard to assemble in a city under martial law.
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I am more doubtful after watching Tsar Bomba footage you can clearly see that this was an air burst as the light pulse emanates from above the ground clearly

[link to www.youtube.com]

If the Americans hadn't mastered the aerial nuke detonation I do believe the Russians have
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The article sounds plausible but in reality they would have to be at least 100 yards away and down in the ground at least 15 feet. To be directly underneath the detonation is BS in my book. That kind of force would require a shield like 5-10 feet thick solid steel which would be really hard to assemble in a city under martial law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394580

those bombs used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were really small compared to those they test in the desert

plus they were not on their own ... they were protected by the Japanese/KGB Intelligence Agencies
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I am more doubtful after watching Tsar Bomba footage you can clearly see that this was an air burst as the light pulse emanates from above the ground clearly

[link to www.youtube.com]

If the Americans hadn't mastered the aerial nuke detonation I do believe the Russians have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 394580


when they test these big ones .... they put them in a tall tower to get maximum range ... if you didn't know that yet

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bs

Learn math lol.
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iamwith
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Re: ++++ How can 8 people survive a Nuclear explosion at Ground-Fucken-Zero ??? Biggest Conspiracy of All TIME !!! ++++ (Updated)
Fat Man and Little Boy were not Nuclear.
They were Hydrogen.
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Fat Man and Little Boy were not Nuclear.
They were Hydrogen.
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ok? scratching
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abombabomb bump abomb abomb
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my grandfather was part of the first repsonse team to nagasaki after the bombs 'dropped'. whereas im very familiar with the mechanics of nuclear devices and me and him talked at great length about the issues with the official detonation story, it cannot be overstated the devastation wreaked upon these people.

the man of which i speak had been present in the aftermath of several bombings during ww2. according to him, a person PRESENT during the direct aftermath of the nagasaki atomic detonation, had 2 things occur to him, and i will let you think about it.

he recieved no extra medication or protections, and did not suffer in any respect from radiation poisoning. yes, he died from prostate cancer a few years ago. no relation.

the second thing, is that something he had never before seen transpired there. peoples shadows vaporized onto walls of buildings, light posts molten and slouching, buildings literally turned to dust. according to him, it was without a doubt the worst thing he had ever born witness to.

so what? what happened? why so many conflicting accounts?

my thought is that it hurt a bit more than our physical reality when it went off. <---MHO

just please, do not try to downplay the enormous human tragedy of the whole incident, it was something that never left my grandfather, even 60 years later.
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Fat Man and Little Boy were not Nuclear.
They were Hydrogen.
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hydrogen bombs = nuclear fission.

of course they were hydrogen, 1945 didnt have the technological capability to split apart anything larger. to my understanding, the uranium acts as more of a catalyst than explosive. of course, i could be completely wrong about all this.
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