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Type I Diabetics wearing Insulin Pumps will now be subject to the SEXUAL MOLESTATION PAT DOWNS - was already bad before - what will happen to these fo

 
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Type I Diabetics wearing Insulin Pumps will now be subject to the SEXUAL MOLESTATION PAT DOWNS - was already bad before - what will happen to these fo
My sister and brother both have Type I Diabetes and both wear insulin pumps.

My sister has had several anxious incidents going through security in the past. TSA agents that see an insulin pump get really freaked out about them (never mind the fact that thousands of people go through airports each year with prototypes of machines in their carry ons each year).

People with Diabetes face several hurdles - a) insulin itself (liquid, and usually kept in a cooler pocket) and b) emergency drinks (for my sister, she always keeps a small 4.2 ounce of orange juice with her - which just happens to be .2 ounces over that 4 ounce limit they set - she's joked about whether it's ok to just take a swig first to ensure she's under the limit)....

She's very anxious when going through airports because she is almost always singled out. Not only is this stressful, but it's embarrassing to stand their being ogled by all the other passengers...It's also time consuming.

But now, the manufacturers of her pump (MERCK) have advised her to NOT carry her $8000 pump through the body scanner as there have been NO tests to determine if the scanners are safe for these pumps. (I don't have a link to this as it was a conversation she had with them on the phone - but seems to be common sense to not risk it without testing).

She is slated to travel the day after Christmas. She will be alone, with a 2 week old baby (she's due the first week of December). TSA agents can't separate her from baby, and can't HELP her either (meaning, they can't hold the baby while she removes pump for bomb swab testing, etc...). Yes, you read that right. They will swab her pump (and probably everything else she has with her) for explosive residue. This was ALREADY happening (see this link for an account of this this past summer: [link to boardingarea.com]

Read those comments. These are people who were ALREADY being singled out because of their DISABILITY.

What will happen to these poor folks now?

My sister is really beginning to get scared over her travel plans this Christmas. She's thinking how she will be able to handle the baby while being groped (since she can't go through the scanner) and forced to go through excessive procedures for testing her pump.

(Which reminds me - will all new moms have to be groped? Are moms with infants even allowed to go through the scanner - not that they would want to, but would they even be given a choice?)

I think this is just RIPE for an attorney (which my sister is, although this isn't her specialty) to SUE, SUE, SUE on grounds of discrimination based on a disability.
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Re: Type I Diabetics wearing Insulin Pumps will now be subject to the SEXUAL MOLESTATION PAT DOWNS - was already bad before - what will happen to these fo
Please disregard the "their" typo in the previous post. I do know the difference. There are other typos as well. One problem with being an AC is you can't edit your crap!! :)
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Re: Type I Diabetics wearing Insulin Pumps will now be subject to the SEXUAL MOLESTATION PAT DOWNS - was already bad before - what will happen to these fo
This page is obviously dated, but the last paragraph suggest it's been modified recently:

[link to www.diabetes.org]


However, the Association has received reports from several travelers which suggest that there is a new TSA policy subjecting all pump-wearers to additional screening. Specifically, on multiple occasions when TSA personnel have become aware that a traveler uses an insulin pump, they have done a comprehensive hand and explosive check of all of the travelerís carry-on baggage, not just medical supplies. In light of these reports, we recommend that you allow extra time to be processed through airport security if you wear an insulin pump.
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Re: Type I Diabetics wearing Insulin Pumps will now be subject to the SEXUAL MOLESTATION PAT DOWNS - was already bad before - what will happen to these fo
This page is obviously dated, but the last paragraph suggest it's been modified recently:

[link to www.diabetes.org]


However, the Association has received reports from several travelers which suggest that there is a new TSA policy subjecting all pump-wearers to additional screening. Specifically, on multiple occasions when TSA personnel have become aware that a traveler uses an insulin pump, they have done a comprehensive hand and explosive check of all of the travelerís carry-on baggage, not just medical supplies. In light of these reports, we recommend that you allow extra time to be processed through airport security if you wear an insulin pump.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 950716


OMG this is such bullshit.
Where did common sense go?
Maybe she should take a bus or train instead.
I wouldn't put myself through it.

I am now a firm believer in profiling.
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Re: Type I Diabetics wearing Insulin Pumps will now be subject to the SEXUAL MOLESTATION PAT DOWNS - was already bad before - what will happen to these fo
It's true. I have an insulin pump as well and have asked other pump-people what their experiences have been with the new procedures. Some people get lucky and get waved through the regular metal detectors, which are easy enough to get through if you hide your pump (in your bra, in a discreet pocket). But there is no way anyone will put their pump through the naked body scanner; you're right... not worth the risk. Some people disconnect and send it through the x ray, but who in their right mind would be okay with doing that...

I would opt out anyway for other reasons. I would rather be felt up than be exposed to the unknown health risks of the naked body scanners, and I don't want my image going into some database. Regardless of that, as a direct result of my "disability" (I do not see diabetes as a disability, but it legally is) I will be sexually molested in front of my husband and all of my belongings will be searched for explosive material.

After this upcoming flight I have to take I will not be flying anymore.

This is the idiot underbelly of political correctness.

The conspiracy theorist side of my brain is beginning to think that they are keeping records on who is "disabled." Hopefully they are too stupid to be organized enough to do something like that.
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Re: Type I Diabetics wearing Insulin Pumps will now be subject to the SEXUAL MOLESTATION PAT DOWNS - was already bad before - what will happen to these fo
Lots of confusion on this...this guy says he DID go through the back scatter machine with his pump (you can NOT take a pump through the standard xray machine). My sister says the manufacture specifically told her not to until tested. By the way - I was wrong in my first post - the manufacturer of her pump is Medtronic, not Merck.

[link to qa.airliners.net]

From that link:

" One lady was even told by a TSA supervisor that if you have a medical device like an insulin pump, you have to go through the "enhanced pat down". No choice..............

.....I also think it is pretty wrong to single out a group of people, specifically those with a form of disability, and make them go through something that is pretty unpleasant and demeaning."
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Re: Type I Diabetics wearing Insulin Pumps will now be subject to the SEXUAL MOLESTATION PAT DOWNS - was already bad before - what will happen to these fo
It's true. I have an insulin pump as well and have asked other pump-people what their experiences have been with the new procedures. Some people get lucky and get waved through the regular metal detectors, which are easy enough to get through if you hide your pump (in your bra, in a discreet pocket). But there is no way anyone will put their pump through the naked body scanner; you're right... not worth the risk. Some people disconnect and send it through the x ray, but who in their right mind would be okay with doing that...

I would opt out anyway for other reasons. I would rather be felt up than be exposed to the unknown health risks of the naked body scanners, and I don't want my image going into some database. Regardless of that, as a direct result of my "disability" (I do not see diabetes as a disability, but it legally is) I will be sexually molested in front of my husband and all of my belongings will be searched for explosive material.

After this upcoming flight I have to take I will not be flying anymore.

This is the idiot underbelly of political correctness.

The conspiracy theorist side of my brain is beginning to think that they are keeping records on who is "disabled." Hopefully they are too stupid to be organized enough to do something like that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1168872

Thank you. You sound very level-headed, practical and remind me very much of the conversation I just had with my sister - also level-headed and practical.

Her concerns right now have to do with whatever procedures she will have to endure, with the added burden of

a) having a 2 week old baby with her (strapped to her front in a carrier, which may or may not be acceptable to TSA - i.e., how will they do a pat down with baby strapped to her?) and

b)going through this alone (her husband will be driving with their 2 year old and meeting her).

It SMACKS that someone that happens to have Diabetes will/can be singled out like this.
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Re: Type I Diabetics wearing Insulin Pumps will now be subject to the SEXUAL MOLESTATION PAT DOWNS - was already bad before - what will happen to these fo
Yes; the other pumpers I asked reported mixed results about the procedures they had to go through... as if there is not universal agreement about how to deal with this particular issue, or if they leave it unclear on purpose - this is not known.

Someone I know, a frequent flier with a pump, records these incidents and reports them to the ADA. I don't know if that does anything.

I'm sorry your sister has to go through the anxiety of not knowing what will happen to her baby during the screening: I would feel the same exact way.
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Re: Type I Diabetics wearing Insulin Pumps will now be subject to the SEXUAL MOLESTATION PAT DOWNS - was already bad before - what will happen to these fo
as if there is not universal agreement about how to deal with this particular issue, or if they leave it unclear on purpose - this is not known.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1168872

Exactly what we were discussing.

Usually the association is pretty good about staying top of issues like this - after liquids were banned, they were out front pretty quickly with advocating for exemptions for carry on juice, etc....will be interesting to see how this plays out, but a pain for those caught up in it in the meantime.





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