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Gnosticism - an enemy of the truth?
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MrsO |
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To me, experiential is subjective, it can lead to the truth, but isn't the truth itself.
Quoting: MrsO That is because the mind is too dominant, and active. You need to activate and strengthen the consciousness. The mind is completely subjective, but if we strengthen the consciousness and learn how to use it things become more and more objective. If this really happens, isn't it a kind of subjective objectivity, since it is still experienced within the person? So what is the truth that is discovered when in this objective consciousness? Sure, if the point of observation is not 100 percent clear vision (clairvoyant). If the point of observation or perception is clear from the mind and any ego then it is 100% objective. This is the meaning of "we are all ONE, in truth". The truth discovered from this state of consciousness is that nothing else is real. The truth is knowledge itself, of 'the self ',and 'God' or 'truth'. The full truth is not transferable by words, only experience. Clear vision, and clairvoyance, I don't know, it sounds dubious, I'm sorry. The truth to be found separated from the ego and the mind isn't the same truth as what has been intellectually grasped, but if the experience isn't interpreted by the mind, did it even really exist? What knowledge of God have you gained? I have both experiences which can be called 'supernatural' and are deeply moving. I also have the knowledge given me by Jesus through his church, for me trying to stick to just the experiential would make my spiritual life very impoverished. Truth would remain a flotsam and jetsam thing, able to shape shift, which I don't believe is the case.
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