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•••Climategate – still the issue•••

 
ShaneCMuir
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TRANSCRIPT: This week marks the one year anniversary of the release of emails and documents from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia that we now know as Climategate.

Sitting here now, one year later, it’s becoming difficult to remember the importance of that release of information, or even what information was actually released. Many were only introduced to the scandal through commentary in the blogosphere and many more came to know about it only weeks later, after the establishment media had a chance to assess the damage and fine tune the spin that would help allay their audience’s concern that something important had just happened. Very few have actually bothered to read the emails and documents for themselves.

Few have browsed the “Harry Read Me” [link to www.anenglishmanscastle.com] file, the electronic notes of a harried programmer trying to make sense of the CRU’s databases. They have never read for themselves how temperatures in the database were “artificially adjusted to look closer to the real temperatures” or the “hundreds if not thousands of dummy stations” which somehow ended up in the database, or how the exasperated programmer resorts to expletives before admitting he made up key data on weather stations because it was impossible to tell what data was coming from what sources.

Few have read the 2005 email [link to eastangliaemails.com] from Climategate ringleader and CRU head Phil Jones to John Christy where he states “The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data and it isn’t statistically significant.” Or where he concludes: “As you know, I’m not political. If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isn’t being political, it is being selfish.”

Or the email [link to eastangliaemails.com] where he broke the law by asking Michael Mann of “hockey stick” fame to delete a series of emails related to a Freedom of Information request he had just received.

Or the email [link to eastangliaemails.com] where he wrote: “If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I’ll delete the file rather than send to anyone. We also have a data protection act, which I will hide behind.”

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A couple of my favourite quotes from the Climategate/Global Warming fiasco:

“Faking up data here is very time-consuming”
- Mike HULME to Tom WIGLEY - Mon, 9 Feb 1998

“In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill ... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”
- Alexander KING, Bertrand SCHNEIDER - founder and secretary, respectively, of the Club of Rome - The First Global Revolution, pp.104-105 - 1991

Global Government is the motive.
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A couple of my favourite quotes from the Climategate/Global Warming fiasco:

“Faking up data here is very time-consuming”
- Mike HULME to Tom WIGLEY - Mon, 9 Feb 1998

“In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill ... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”
- Alexander KING, Bertrand SCHNEIDER - founder and secretary, respectively, of the Club of Rome - The First Global Revolution, pp.104-105 - 1991

Global Government is the motive.
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The “uniting” was attempted only to open our wallets to be emptied into those of a few such as Al Gore with his numerous mansions and gas guzzling vehicles. We are supposed to fall into line and do without energy to include gas for our vehicles and heating or cooling especially important to those living in cold climate while liars use what they wanted.
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The scientific community is buzzing over thousands of emails and documents -- posted on the Internet last week after being hacked from a prominent climate-change research center -- that some say raise ethical questions about a group of scientists who contend humans are responsible for global warming.

The correspondence between dozens of climate-change researchers, including many in the U.S., illustrates bitter feelings among those who believe human activities cause global warming toward rivals who argue that the link between humans and climate change remains uncertain.

Some emails also refer to efforts by scientists who believe man is causing global warming to exclude contrary views from important scientific publications.

"This is horrible," said Pat Michaels, a climate scientist at the Cato Institute in Washington who is mentioned negatively in the emails. "This is what everyone feared. Over the years, it has become increasingly difficult for anyone who does not view global warming as an end-of-the-world issue to publish papers. This isn't questionable practice, this is unethical."


Climate Emails Stoke Debate
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A short video cataloguing some of the more ridiculous things that have been attributed to global warming by the mainstream media.

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I was hoping to expand your comments with a dialog concerning global warming however, you seem content with talking to yourself.
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I was hoping to expand your comments with a dialog concerning global warming however, you seem content with talking to yourself.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


I will talk to you..

What do you want to expand?

I have said it has all been about the pursuit of Global Government..
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I was hoping to expand your comments with a dialog concerning global warming however, you seem content with talking to yourself.

I will talk to you..

What do you want to expand?

I have said it has all been about the pursuit of Global Government..
 Quoting: ShaneCMuir


I made my comment above however to reiterate the “cure” is supposed to allowing the allotment of carbon credits for the masses while Al Gore and his ilk lives unfettered in their mansions getting richer from this pseudoscience.

The problem is multifold first they need to convince industrialized countries that the problem of global warming is their fault in order to fleece them of their money and rights.

Third world countries have been offered money not to industrialize hence redistribution of wealth something obama has been trying to foist upon us since his campaign days.
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I made my comment above however to reiterate the “cure” is supposed to allowing the allotment of carbon credits for the masses while Al Gore and his ilk lives unfettered in their mansions getting richer from this pseudoscience.

The problem is multifold first they need to convince industrialized countries that the problem of global warming is their fault in order to fleece them of their money and rights.

Third world countries have been offered money not to industrialize hence redistribution of wealth something obama has been trying to foist upon us since his campaign days.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


All so very true.

And they are meeting again soon to try and do it again..
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Dialogue, meet Shane

Shane, meet dialogue...

hope you are well, Shane...
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Its all a scam designed to steal money, reduce population and institute world government with an unelected leader of the whole planet.

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Climategate ringleader and CRU head Phil Jones to John Christy where he states “The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data and it isn’t statistically significant.”
 Quoting: ShaneCMuir



gorebot

Gore's movie "An Inconvenient Truth" was released in 2006. Prof Jones admitted in that email and again later in an interview, that there hasn't been any global warming for quite some time!

If there hasn't been any global warming since 1998 or 1995, why is the big fear machine still running? Surely it would make more sense to at least admit that global warming is not currently happening.
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What do you do when you get caught telling a really big lie? Tell a really, really big lie.
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Climategate ringleader and CRU head Phil Jones to John Christy where he states “The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data and it isn’t statistically significant.”


gorebot

Gore's movie "An Inconvenient Truth" was released in 2006. Prof Jones admitted in that email and again later in an interview, that there hasn't been any global warming for quite some time!

If there hasn't been any global warming since 1998 or 1995, why is the big fear machine still running? Surely it would make more sense to at least admit that global warming is not currently happening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170611


Global warming is to gain our tax dollars and redistribution of wealth to third world counties it is control over the people.

The earth is a dynamic environment not prone to our puny effects and if their lies do not impress us into giving up our rights then they tell bigger lies while holding out their hands for our money. These jokers cannot subdue the winds or will of the oceans let alone the temperature of any particular area.

These fear mongers focus one area without noting other areas changing in the opposite direction such as glacial growth forgetting the earth is dynamic and ever changing albeit slowly.
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Ask Penny Wong (foo-man-fuckup) how it feels to have a whole country (Australia) refering to you as a brain dead fuckwit and a lying piece of trash!
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Climate Change is Real

One day hopefully not too late you will relise this.
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Climate Change is Real

One day hopefully not too late you will relise this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170879


Proof... real proof
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Climate Change is Real

One day hopefully not too late you will relise this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170879

Regular natural climate change is real, catastrophic climate change is NOT.
And regular natural climate change has absolutely NOTHING to do with carbon dioxide.
Hopefully one day you will do some research and see the truth.
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Climate Change is Real

One day hopefully not too late you will relise this.

Regular natural climate change is real, catastrophic climate change is NOT.
And regular natural climate change has absolutely NOTHING to do with carbon dioxide.
Hopefully one day you will do some research and see the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1066325



I have and i do

No use talking to brick walls

This is an agenda

Truth out
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Climate Change is Real

One day hopefully not too late you will relise this.

Regular natural climate change is real, catastrophic climate change is NOT.
And regular natural climate change has absolutely NOTHING to do with carbon dioxide.
Hopefully one day you will do some research and see the truth.



I have and i do

No use talking to brick walls

This is an agenda

Truth out
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170879


You "have and you do" What?
Blathing silliness perhaps but where are your facts.
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Climate Change is Real

One day hopefully not too late you will relise this.

Regular natural climate change is real, catastrophic climate change is NOT.
And regular natural climate change has absolutely NOTHING to do with carbon dioxide.
Hopefully one day you will do some research and see the truth.



I have and i do

No use talking to brick walls

This is an agenda

Truth out
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170879

So show us proof?
You see you have no research, no proof there is anything catastrophic happening at all.
Its all based on propaganda, not science.
Hey don't take my word for it, take it from these highly educated experts.
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Climate Change is Real

One day hopefully not too late you will relise this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170879

Climate change was around before humans.

We are not causing the climate to change.

I remember when Climate Gate first came up..I told some family members that they would change Global Warming into Global Cooling...and They did.

Now They have switched it to Climate change.

THE EARTHS CLIMATE CHANGES FOUR TIMES A YEAR!
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Climate Change is Real

One day hopefully not too late you will relise this.

Climate change was around before humans.

We are not causing the climate to change.

I remember when Climate Gate first came up..I told some family members that they would change Global Warming into Global Cooling...and They did.

Now They have switched it to Climate change.

THE EARTHS CLIMATE CHANGES FOUR TIMES A YEAR!
 Quoting: BROKEN

Its to do with the Sun and the Moon.





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