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The noble freedom fighters of Iraq

 
DogFishHead
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07/13/2005 08:02 AM
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[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

"A suicide car bomber drove up to a U.S. Humvee as soldiers were distributing candy to children and detonated his vehicle Wednesday, killing up to 27 people, officials and residents said. One U.S. soldier and about a dozen children were among the dead."

That will teach those children, huh?
Concerned Aussie from Perth  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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What should happen with Iraq DFH.

Whatsī your thinking.?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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It may sound a bit inhuman but the Iraqi government should blockade areas where they feel terrorists are given shelter or support.
No food goes in, no water, no electric, no phone service, no nothing. No one goes in or out.
The people may then understand that there is a price to pay for aiding and abetting these murderers.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Then how you going to shut down the contractors and American bases? Hows about those Israeliīs doing their business there? How do you get them out? Surround Israel !!!! Just calling it like I see it
samar  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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oh really???
you wanna prision iraqis in their own country!!
if you hate their attacks(defense ones), then get the hell out of their country.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Way more Iraqis die at the hand of other muslims than by the hand of Americans by accident. Funny, you donīt hear anyone squawking about that well known fact.

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DogFishHead  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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"What should happen with Iraq DFH."

Huh? I have no idea. I didnīt invade Iraq. I believe it was foolish for us to invade in the first place; I donīt support many of GWBīs policies, and this was one of them. I donīt have a solution. Do you?

Iīm just pointing out that the brave freedom fighters in Iraq have silenced an evil occupation cell of children collaborating with the infidels.

This glorious victory will most certainly win the hearts and minds of the average Iraqi.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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DFH, donīt be such a hypocrite. All soldiers are bad. There is no nobility on either side.

Only difference is that Iraqis are trying to defend themselves from an occupation.

If these were Americans who had īaccidentallyī killed several Iraqi children (it can be argued that it was their fault) we would hear "what do you expect, itīs a war?" And then you would call any protestors a bunch of pussy liberals.

Itīs all tragic because this war is causing the death of innocent people, and creating many guilty ones.

The only difference is that the Iraqis have the moral high ground, even if they screw up.

I donīt know that I believe the story anyway.

Since when has the US media ever been forthright about any news during any war?
Concerned Aussie from Perth  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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""Huh? I have no idea. I didnīt invade Iraq.""

Why no ideaīs, doesnīt have to be yours.

Who do you support and agree with in politics DFH. ?
DogFishHead  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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6680, Bullshit. I know there are few good guys in Iraq, including the US.

But, if American soldiers had just accidentally killed Iraqi children you folks here would be calling them evil baby killers and using it as an example how evil the US is.

When Iraqi insurgents kill Iraqi children ON PURPOSE, they are apologized for because they are īdefending their nation from occupationī.

That ideological double standard is not lost on me; it is not I who is the hypocrite.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Many if not the majority of the homicide bombers arenīt even Iraqis.

[link to www.timesonline.co.uk]
DogFishHead  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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"Who do you support and agree with in politics DFH"

I am not inclined to lay down my political philosophy in detail here in GLP, and certainly not to you. I almost always log in, so just read my posts and youīll get an idea.

Basically I donīt like extremists, be they right or left wing. I see no difference between a spittle spewing leftist screaming "kill all the neocon Nazis!" and the worst reactionary jingoist screaming "Nuke Mecca!"

Yet each one is SO sure he is right...an interesting study.
Octo  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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 Israeli Roots of Hamas are being exposed

Speaking in Jerusalem Dec. 20 [2001], U.S. Ambassador to Israel Daniel Kurtzer made the connection between the growth of the Islamic fundamentalist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and Israelīs promotion of the Islamic movement as a counter to the Palestinian nationalist movement. Kurtzerīs comments come very close to EIRīs own presentation of the evidence of Israelīs instrumental role in establishing Hamas, and its ongoing control of that organization.

Kurtzer said that the growth of the Islamic movement in the Palestinian territories in recent decades—"with the tacit support of Israel"—was "not totally unrelated" to the emergence of Hamas and Islamic Jihad and their terrorist attacks against Israel. Kurtzer explained that during the 1980s, when the Islamic movement began to flourish in the West Bank and Gaza, "Israel perceived it to be better to have people turning toward religion rather than toward a nationalistic cause [the Palestinian Liberation Organization—ed.]." It therefore did little to stop the flow of money to mosques and other religious institutions, rather than to schools.

[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

We canīt possibly know exactly who instigate these horrible attacks...
Concerned Aussie from Perth  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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"Basically I donīt like extremists, be they right or left wing. I see no difference between a spittle spewing leftist screaming "kill all the neocon Nazis!" and the worst reactionary jingoist screaming "Nuke Mecca!"

Shit i agree with you there. And i support Larouche!

Piss weak excuse in regard to your political beliefs. Same "lack of balls" characteristic of most politicians. Funny that DFH.

What are you scared of. Ridicule? You sound like a Sophist.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Ah, but you are the one who is selling propaganda.

Congratulations, youīre among historyīs most reviled groups. The propaganda machine.

Now I know that this isnīt broadcast tv, but donīt sell yourself short just because you donīt reach as many people.

Youīre just as bad.


The American soldiers have killed not one single person responsible for any crime agains America.

They have killed more than 128,000 Iraqi civilians. That means people who were not armed.

The majority of those were women and children. Tell us about the nobility in this.

Since youīre going to try to split hairs and tell me that you donīt believe the numbers coming from the source in the middle east then quote us the official US military sources on civilians killed.

Oh wait, you canīt. Rumsfeldt didnīt think that they were important enough to keep track of.

So there is no official records of Iraqi civilians killed. They only keep track of "insurgents" killed.

The only news that reaches us is now sanctioned news. Itīs been sanitized.

What the hell were the soldiers doing giving candy to children? They are targets. They are in constant danger and they know this. It is unforgivable knowing this that they would search out groups of children in order to offer them candy of all things. Did they think they needed candy? It is an affront to the sensibilities that they would do such a thing at all. They failed to sway the will of the adults so theyīve targeted their children, knowing that they were risking the lives of the chidren. There was no good will involved. It was just another tactic.
Soldiers donīt charity. They follow orders.

The persons who programmed the suicide bomber are just as bad. The suicide bomber was also just as bad. And you are just as bad for trying to pretend that there is a shred of nobility in what the US occupying forces are doing.

There was a time when American freedom fighters were called insurgents. They killed many british soldiers, the majority of whom were forced into servitude and did not want to fight.

There was a foreign occupation going on then too.

Foreign occupations always fail. They fail because the occupier is always the bad guy.

Right now thatīs us.
Concerned Aussie from Perth  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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6680.."propoganda"..lies and deciet basically.

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