BREAKING! OMG! WIKILEAKS IS ONLY CREDIBLE WHEN IT MAKES THE USA LOOK BAD!!

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For all those who consistantly criticise American Citizens, AKA "The US", public and foreign policy, the political agenda, and so on, are under the direct control of the government administration, the people are basically kept in the dark and not consulted on the day to day decisions made by those on capitol hill.
The actions of those in power, do not always reflect the needs, aspirations and attitude of all the citizens.
Even when 70% or more of the US population, don't agree with, and voice their opposition to, any particular legal stance, political position or direction the leaders are proposing, we are ignored and told it's in our best interest.
We have been lied to, cheated, manipulated, duped and have been used as pawns in their game of financial greed, lust for power and control, just like many other nations on the planet have.

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Of course, most people from outside the USA make that seperation. But some sidenotes should be made IMO:
- Too many americans on here seem seem to go way overboard with their conspiracy-theories and therefore sketching a situation of the TPTB in their own country and the world that just isnt realistic or true, more a situation of believe then trusting on facts / ratio.
- If the situation in your country bothers you so much why don't you start your own political party or force the existing parties to change there course. Of course, the current system is partly corrupted by too, but is not like its some evil, overpowering illuminati-system many of you make it out to be (see my first point). Youre still living in a democratic and free country: take you opportunities, fight for it, and dont believe all the conspiracy-hype.. LOL

Amazing that wikileaks is now releasing diplomatic documents of not just the US, but also around the world. That could do serious damage.

100% agree with you. But Wikileaks isn't about the Portuguese goverment actions on other countries. And that's why I made that comment.
If the question was about my countrie I'ld write the same.

But the Thread title is ...

"BREAKING! OMG! WIKILEAKS IS ONLY CREDIBLE WHEN IT MAKES THE - USA - LOOK BAD!!"

After thinking about this over a smoke - it dawned on me that they are seizing domains over 'copyrights' allegedly.

However - I bet they could just shut it down over "National Security" if they really wanted to....

Every country spy's, no surprise their.
What I can't get passed is, if really important info was being leaked....Wikileaks and owner would be wiped from the internet and planet in seconds.

[link to cablegate.wikileaks.org]
¶8. (S) In recent meetings with senior USG officials, MbZ has
expressed clear support for U.S. initiatives against Iran.
MbZ and UAE Vice President and Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed
bin Rashid agreed with Secretary Rice February 23 about the
need to counter Iran's growing influence in the region and
its nuclear ambitions, although they specified that any
sanctions should target the key Iranian leadership, not the
Iranian people (ref I). MbZ told A/S Welch March 28 that he
did not think it was necessary to wait for all Gulf
Cooperation Council (GCC) countries to agree before
proceeding with any plans against Iran (ref E). "Whoever is
interested in getting on board ship should be encouraged," he
said. "I don't think it's logical or smart to wait for
everyone to get involved so we can sail. ... If another GCC
member believes it's not right, that's his choice." In the
Arab region, MbZ specifically identified Bahrain and Jordan
as two countries that also view Iran as a threat and that are
"capable to work with us." He told A/S Welch that the UAE
would prepare a paper responding to USG concerns about Iran
and mechanisms for addressing the challenge posed by Iran.
In a March 27 meeting with CENTCOM Commander General Abizaid,
MbZ spoke about the Iranian threat with a greater sense of
urgency. He was strongly in favor of taking action against
Iran and its president sooner rather than later. "I believe
this guy is going to take us to war. ... It's a matter of
time," MbZ warned, adding that action against Iran and
President Ahmedinejad should be taken this year or next year.
MbZ said he was unwilling to wait much longer. "Personally,
I cannot risk it with a guy like Ahmedinejad. He is young
and aggressive."

LMAO.

Oh my, the patriotic Americans feel attacked once again.

Patriotism is a weapon.

WIKILEAKS is a diversion for the real story that going on.

If you STOP a minute and think for a second. You get the picture.

Let's go back in history to IRAK. What was the given publicity to invade that country, supposed to have some kind of a mass destruction weapon.

If you look whats going on around the wikileaks files, they are given you a picture that they want country's to go against each other throats. This means crate tension to have an excuse for exercise implantation of laws and pass on bill's for the execution of a bigger out fowling or event in the world like a false flag.

PEOPLE please weak up and try to concentrate on the real business that are occurring around every country in world.

like Health care cost are rising, economics are collapsing, freedom of speech is becoming very dangerous and could cost you're live, food is being controlled by Geo-engineering making weather so that crops died in fields or cannot sprout, Money is becoming very scares, unemployment is rising, everything that you have right to have, we have to pay for it.
This is the 21 century of enslavement.

Why don't we all have the birthright (Omega prime being) to have a free living without worrying about food and shelter and money and all complications of live for surviving it.

This is then called freedom. We have to push our world to a better place. I made my contribution today in starting a topic of the real world we live in...

I leave you for minute to think about it? Peace and Freedom to the people.

Well, on GLP there will always be people saying that everyone's an Illuminati puppet, and that all information, even the scandalous, is part of the puppet masters' designed play.

While I admit the possibility that Wikileaks is part of the design, I wouldn't be too sure about it, and to me there's more evidence pointing for Wikileaks not being a puppet organization than the opposite.

god you British are pretentious

Who benefits is exactly the right question. We should always ask that.

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Well, on GLP there will always be people saying that everyone's an Illuminati puppet, and that all information, even the scandalous, is part of the puppet masters' designed play.

While I admit the possibility that Wikileaks is part of the design, I wouldn't be too sure about it, and to me there's more evidence pointing for Wikileaks not being a puppet organization than the opposite.

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Applaudes for some common sense in this thread :)

I noticed that politicians and even media figures look stressed out today

Everything is running right on schedule....There are no coincidences........Tap Runs Out

Yes, we are. Thank god.

correction - there was one - was it demonoid? one p2p site that was seized.

bingo.....and????????

my points been made

Just my inane sense of humour. Don't take me seriously.

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"The US cables, according to WikiLeaks, reveal how American diplomats have privately delivered caustic judgments on a number of world leaders in recent times:

On Vladimir Putin, Russian prime minister, and Dmitry Medvedev, Russian president, the US embassy in Moscow wired in 2008 that Mr Medvedev “plays Robin to Mr Putin’s Batman”.

Kim Jong-il, the reclusive dictator of North Korea, is described as a “flabby old chap” and someone who had suffered “physical and psychological trauma” as a result of his stroke.

Nicolas Sarkozy, French president is decsribed by the US embassy in Paris as having a “thin-skinned and authoritarian personal style”.

Silvio Berlusconi, Italian prime minister, is described by the US charge d’affaires in Rome as “feckless, vain, and ineffective as a modern European leader”.

Hamid Karzai, Afghan president is described by US diplomats in Kabul as “an extremely weak man who did not listen to facts but was instead easily swayed by anyone who came to report even the most bizarre stories or plots against him”.

Robert Mugabe, the president of Zimbabwe, is branded “the crazy old man” by Maite Nkoana-Mashabane, South Africa’s international relations and co-operation minister, according to a cable from Pretoria.

Muammar Gaddafi, the Libyan leader, is described as “just strange”, according to an adviser to Sultan Qaboos of Oman.

Binyamin Netanyahu, Israeli prime minister, is “elegant and charming” but never keeps his promises, according to a cable from Cairo. "
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I don't and I like British folk.

Yes, because you and your fellow shills aren't being intentionally vague at all...

Yeah - it didn't take away from your point.

Well, my American cousin, remember we all need to stick together in these difficult times. Peace and love to all.

The cables reflect views held inside the American government. The exposure of such views has value in itself in helping American citizens evaluate their leaders, whether or not the views reflect reality.

Last Edited by Skeptic the First on 11/28/2010 06:06 PM

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Yes, because you and your fellow shills aren't being intentionally vague at all...

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Give me a fucking break please, some of you people are really paranoid. Just because my opinion differs from that of Evil Twin and maybe from the majority in here, doesnt mean that i am spreading some specific agenda and working togetherswith others to spread that, let alone get paid for it.

I am just a a simple guy from the Netherlands, expressing my own views, nothing more, nothing less.

You folks who see 'shills' everywhere are the ones who are disillusional.. lol

sorry

couldn't help it

Lol.. well, give me a beer then...lol

I don't get paid for being the 'shill' you think and i really have to go to bed to be honest (its midnight over here, and shill-free work calls early in the morning, like for most us 'slaves' Haha)