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Found this pretty interesting

A few excerpts from article:

A century of comet data suggests a dark, Jupiter-sized object is lurking at the solar systemís outer edge and hurling chunks of ice and dust toward Earth.

In 1999, Matese and colleague Daniel Whitmire suggested the sun has a hidden companion that boots icy bodies from the Oort Cloud, a spherical haze of comets at the solar systemís fringes, into the inner solar system where we can see them.

Rather than a malevolent death star, a smaller and more benign companion called Tyche (Nemesisí good sister in Greek mythology) could send comets streaming from the Oort Cloud toward Earth


Full Article:

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planet X.
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planet X.
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I was never part of the planet X camp, but stuff like this is compelling.
At least it's info and not a damned cell phone video of the sun through a car window lol
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from the same article:

We may not have to wait that long, Matese said. An object like Tyche could be seen directly by WISE, NASAís infrared space telescope.


so don't ever count on it to be publicly anounched..
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from the same article:

We may not have to wait that long, Matese said. An object like Tyche could be seen directly by WISE, NASAís infrared space telescope.


so don't ever count on it to be publicly anounched..
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I guess that means we have to wait for the nasa blockheads to forget to airbrush some pics.
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Here is some more 'proof'.

This comes directly from the NASA website. It is a press release from the Royal Astronomical Society labeled 'for immediate release'. It was released in 1999.


"Dr Murray notes that the comets reaching the inner solar system include a group coming from directions in space that are strung out along an arc across the sky."



BURIED PROOF OF NEMESIS?! Directly from NASA website: comets reaching the inner solar system include a group strung out along an arc across the sky
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Here is some more 'proof'.

This comes directly from the NASA website. It is a press release from the Royal Astronomical Society labeled 'for immediate release'. It was released in 1999.


"Dr Murray notes that the comets reaching the inner solar system include a group coming from directions in space that are strung out along an arc across the sky."



BURIED PROOF OF NEMESIS?! Directly from NASA website: comets reaching the inner solar system include a group strung out along an arc across the sky
Thread: BURIED PROOF OF NEMESIS?! Directly from NASA website: comets reaching the inner solar system include a group strung out along an arc across the sky
 Quoting: Sickscent


Thanks for adding to the info Sickscent. It is obvious there is something out there. Only time will tell what it actually is.
Do you think we will find out in our lifetime?

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Found this pretty interesting

A few excerpts from article:

A century of comet data suggests a dark, Jupiter-sized object is lurking at the solar systemís outer edge and hurling chunks of ice and dust toward Earth.

In 1999, Matese and colleague Daniel Whitmire suggested the sun has a hidden companion that boots icy bodies from the Oort Cloud, a spherical haze of comets at the solar systemís fringes, into the inner solar system where we can see them.

Rather than a malevolent death star, a smaller and more benign companion called Tyche (Nemesisí good sister in Greek mythology) could send comets streaming from the Oort Cloud toward Earth


Full Article:

[link to www.wired.com]
 Quoting: Kashodi


More incorrect assumptions of man. There is a dark body, yes, and it's primary purpose is to tow the whole solar system around the central sun of Alcyone, for this region. It does not shoot comets at us.
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I was very into this theory, as Sickscent can attest.

But I am wondering from other things I have read - do we even know for sure that the Oort cloud exists?
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Here is some more 'proof'.

This comes directly from the NASA website. It is a press release from the Royal Astronomical Society labeled 'for immediate release'. It was released in 1999.


"Dr Murray notes that the comets reaching the inner solar system include a group coming from directions in space that are strung out along an arc across the sky."



BURIED PROOF OF NEMESIS?! Directly from NASA website: comets reaching the inner solar system include a group strung out along an arc across the sky
Thread: BURIED PROOF OF NEMESIS?! Directly from NASA website: comets reaching the inner solar system include a group strung out along an arc across the sky


Thanks for adding to the info Sickscent. It is obvious there is something out there. Only time will tell what it actually is.
Do you think we will find out in our lifetime?
 Quoting: Kashodi


I do think we will, but it could be many things. For example, a dense plasma column might do the trick.
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I was very into this theory, as Sickscent can attest.

But I am wondering from other things I have read - do we even know for sure that the Oort cloud exists?
 Quoting: Riker


You would think we could know by now...
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Found this pretty interesting

A few excerpts from article:

A century of comet data suggests a dark, Jupiter-sized object is lurking at the solar systemís outer edge and hurling chunks of ice and dust toward Earth.

In 1999, Matese and colleague Daniel Whitmire suggested the sun has a hidden companion that boots icy bodies from the Oort Cloud, a spherical haze of comets at the solar systemís fringes, into the inner solar system where we can see them.

Rather than a malevolent death star, a smaller and more benign companion called Tyche (Nemesisí good sister in Greek mythology) could send comets streaming from the Oort Cloud toward Earth


Full Article:

[link to www.wired.com]


More incorrect assumptions of man. There is a dark body, yes, and it's primary purpose is to tow the whole solar system around the central sun of Alcyone, for this region. It does not shoot comets at us.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


You should read the article, maybe your terminology is incorrect, nothing is "shooting comets" at us.

The cosmic snowballs that form the hearts of comets generally hang out in the Oort Cloud until their orbits are nudged by some outside force. This push could come from one of three things, Matese said. The constant gravitational pull of the Milky Wayís disk can drag comets out of their icy homes and into the inner solar system. A passing star can shake comets loose from the Oort Cloud as it zips by. Or a large companion like Nemesis or Tyche can pull comets out of their comfort zones.

From what I gather it takes a while to loosen these comets and then some more time before it finds its path and makes its way towards earth.

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I was very into this theory, as Sickscent can attest.

But I am wondering from other things I have read - do we even know for sure that the Oort cloud exists?
 Quoting: Riker


Interesting insight, Riker.
The only thing that makes our science fallible is the fact that humans are fallible themselves. We try to make things fit our limited understanding.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were plenty of things out there beyond our capabilities of reason. Hell, Look at some of the messed up things we have discovered just recently.
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eq
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:ahh:
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The Doom, it cometh!

damned
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There may not be an Oort cloud, but comets come from somewhere out there.

Those of us who like to name things may as well call that "somewhere" the Oort cloud. Naming an unknown doesn't mean you understand it.
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I was very into this theory, as Sickscent can attest.

But I am wondering from other things I have read - do we even know for sure that the Oort cloud exists?


You would think we could know by now...
 Quoting: Sickscent


Seriously! LOL ;-)
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I was very into this theory, as Sickscent can attest.

But I am wondering from other things I have read - do we even know for sure that the Oort cloud exists?


Interesting insight, Riker.
The only thing that makes our science fallible is the fact that humans are fallible themselves. We try to make things fit our limited understanding.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were plenty of things out there beyond our capabilities of reason. Hell, Look at some of the messed up things we have discovered just recently.
 Quoting: Kashodi


Good point!
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The DM's got it now:


Massive dark object 'lurking on edge of solar system hurling comets at Earth'
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 8:50 AM on 8th December 2010


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

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The constant gravitational pull of the Milky Wayís disk can drag comets out of their icy homes and into the inner solar system.
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There is that term "icy" again. We must reiterate comets are not dirty snowballs. They are electrically charged balls of matter, energy and plasma (in the tails).
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the MyaNs TrieD tO WarN us....
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from the same article:

We may not have to wait that long, Matese said. An object like Tyche could be seen directly by WISE, NASAís infrared space telescope.


so don't ever count on it to be publicly anounched..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556010

Unless it's in front of the Sag A area (galactic center). The infrared back-wash would hide up until the last minute.
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I posted this link last week about Cornell University finding 16 unknown objects in their quest to find Planet X.

[link to arxiv.org]

It's a PDF so you gotta zoom 100% to read (i.e., cell phone users should have super sonic nano tech eyeballs to read :)
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Paul Hoagland right again!
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this makes me think of a previous GLP post by AC 832564:

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have you posted your info on glp before? serious stuff.
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The full document:

Extra-Solar System Object currently at aphelion.

Ancient Catastrophes determined to be on cyclical basis [precise calendar]. Three comet clusters associated with catastrophic cycle from multiple ancient cultures. [Sumerian, Egyptian, Greek/Roman, Aztec, Mayan, Hopi, etc.]

Cluster A now detectable near Sun [Sungrazers], causing current perturbations (solar flares and magnetic filaments) of the Sun and climate change, increasing geological instability of Earth (increased earthquakes and volcanic activity, landslides and sinkholes, "Gulf Oil Volcano") and atmospheric fireballs/explosions reported globally (Indonesian meteor explosion/October 2009/Colombian meteor impact September 2010/San Bruno, CA "Event"). Climatic and geological changes also currently being observed on all planets in our solar system [surface of Pluto changing colors, multiple comet impacts witnessed on Jupiter in 2009/10, impact on Venus 2009].

Trajectory of comet cluster indeterminable due to extenuating factors (out-gassing, exact Astronomical Unit distance and Mass of Extra-Solar System object, [Nibiru, Nemesis, Quetzalcoatl, Vulcan, Marduk, Phaeton, Kulkulkan, Wormwood, et al.] gravitational forces of Sun, Jupiter and other planets.) Ancient cultures worshiped this planet/star as a god because of its devastating effects on planet Earth.

The passage of ESSO also coincides with arrival of interstellar dust cloud/plasma field. As Earth is drawn into the denser parts of the Plasma Field, the dust cloud/plasma interacts with Earth's protective shield (magnetosphere), odd atmospheric phenomena will be reported in the skies around the world (Norway Spiral December 2009/Australia spiral June 2010).

These spirals were witnessed by the ancients, who carved the sacred spiral symbol in rocks and in caves on all continents of the planet (save Antarctica) thousands of years ago, as they witnessed these spirals in the sky shortly before the last Earth Catastrophe (Noah's Flood/Epic of Gilgamesh/Lost City of Atlantis/Destruction of Sodom & Gommorah/Decaulion Flood "myth").

Interactions with higher density plasma will also cause odd lightning and magnetic phenomena (change/alteration in global cloud patterns, bizarre lightning displays and booming, resonating thunder). Increasing plasma energy will affect all forms of life. Initially, this will manifest in smaller life forms (insects and non-vertebrae) that will begin to flourish [massive insect swarms/Plagues of Egypt (locust swarms/bedbugs, jellyfish "explosion" in the oceans.] Increase in algae/bacteria (red tide) in oceans and rivers (another Plague of Egypt, "the water turned red as blood"). Disorientation and increase in aggressive behaviors in mammals (including humans). The plasma field will also compromise human and animal immune systems, creating outbreaks of new diseases (Swine Flu) as it slowly poisons. As these events manifest, the arrival of the cataclysmic comet swarms draws perilously close. (Comet Hartley/NASA's "Deep Impact" Project October 2010).

Noticeable changes in global socioeconomic establishments will precede catastrophic events. Major, unusual shifts in political maneuverings between countries should accelerate accordingly, as preparations are made for event mode [STUXNET]. Media black-outs on events in the higher realm of odd or unusual [Military classifying incoming asteroid/comet threats as top secret]. Complete breakdown of global weather patterns attributed to extra-solar system object/interstellar dust cloud/comet swarm will be difficult to conceal, as untold millions around the world will be victims. Slow realization that human activity is NOT responsible for current climate change will arrive too late. Past impact zones on Earth documented at length, many responsible for recorded Ice Ages and Extinction Level Events.

Ancient timekeepers/ astronomers (Maya, Egyptian, Inca, Hopi, etc.) knew where to look for this extra-solar system object and tried to warn humanity of its impending "return". Knowledge and clues of this objects existence were embedded in ancient monuments, stone carvings, oral tradition, literature, religious beliefs and sculptures and paintings for centuries. The prelude of its arrival is already creating the news headlines currently being witnessed globally. These events will increase at a more rapid and intense pace the closer Extra-Solar system object approaches. Preparations should be well under way for all private individuals.
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I know this sounds weird but in one Obama reverse speech he said "we have an igloo in the sun" I could not figure that one out and remembered it. Perhaps it has to do with this thread.
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There is something out there - by Mike Brown (Professor of Planetary Astronomy at the California Institute of Technology)

Part I

[link to www.mikebrownsplanets.com]

Part II

[link to www.mikebrownsplanets.com]
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ahh

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