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FINALLY, PLANET X - PLEASE PIN!

 
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Produce the evidence for the claims
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[link to math.ucr.edu]
Last 10K
Looking at the sharp declines on this chart is obvious. Many animals would have faced extinction level events to have decreased their habitat almost over night in some cases depending on location at that TIME
@ about 3600 yr ago we see a low from a rapid fall from about 4200 yrs ago. Another low @ 4500 that was the beginning of that warming trend @ 4200. The low @ 4500 was a gradual decline from a severe high @ 6400 with it's drop to a low @ 7200 yrs ago. Then severe drop back to 10k+.
[link to math.ucr.edu]
Here we have 15+K map.
If you notice the peak between 5K and 0 you see a hard fall @ appr 3800.
Another hard drop @ approx 8200, and again 10K+ hard drop 13K
While I doubt those graphs are exact, they are close. They also closely reflect the massive temperature swings that trigger mass extinctions. And the approximate TIMELINE in question.

Not my site, & not my expertise to say the least,....
Just ran across the info on another,....hunt.

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Not all the Videos, we are seeing of Planet X, are lens flares, or the Planet Venus, as quipped by some of the paid skeptics. There are just too many presentations to dismiss the logic of its existence. And....while there can never be enough proof for you to determine PXs validity, the same can be also said to verify any opposing view.

And yet you can never duplicate it. I've presented the
challenge of using two different cameras and from the
same location at the same time take the same image. No
one has been able to accomplish that. Hell, even you
played games for months claiming you had bought a telescope
and that you were going to take pictures of Planet X with
it. You lied about it. Everyone knows this. Did you
think that people had forgotten your games?

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Dual cameras? You mean like the pics shown here?

[link to www.detailshere.com]


As far as my aiming my scope around the Sun, and using solar filters....this process does not work, and I have tried to explain why.

Your nagging persistence, to pin me against the wall is very irritating, and is very crude of you, to encourage belittlement, with intent to embarrass me. If you cease with this personal vendetta, I will try to compromise my animosity toward you.
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Produce the evidence for the claims


[link to math.ucr.edu]
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Looking at the sharp declines on this chart is obvious. Many animals would have faced extinction level events to have decreased their habitat almost over night in some cases depending on location at that TIME
@ about 3600 yr ago we see a low from a rapid fall from about 4200 yrs ago. Another low @ 4500 that was the beginning of that warming trend @ 4200. The low @ 4500 was a gradual decline from a severe high @ 6400 with it's drop to a low @ 7200 yrs ago. Then severe drop back to 10k+.
[link to math.ucr.edu]
Here we have 15+K map.
If you notice the peak between 5K and 0 you see a hard fall @ appr 3800.
Another hard drop @ approx 8200, and again 10K+ hard drop 13K
While I doubt those graphs are exact, they are close. They also closely reflect the massive temperature swings that trigger mass extinctions. And the approximate TIMELINE in question.

Not my site, & not my expertise to say the least,....
Just ran across the info on another,....hunt.
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You claim was:

Approximately every 3,600 yrs this planet gets massive floods (noahs Ark last recorded),earth quakes,volcano, ice ages.

What you produced where two charts with temperature, one without numbers so I have no idea what it means. We all know the temperature of the planet undergoes changes. There is no correlation between those temperature variations and gets massive floods, earth quakes, and volcanoes. And no correlation with your statement about ice ages every 3600 years.

Of more interest from your reference is:

The current temperature matches the "Holocene maximum", a warm period about 12,000 years ago, right before the last ice age. If the temperature goes up another 1°C, it'll be the hottest it's been in the last 1.35 million years!

I believe that is a typo and they meant 120,000 years ago (supported by their plots) which, if such a cycle repeated, would indicate a 120,000 year period, not a 3,600 year. Their plot of global ice mass data does seem to show a possible variation with that time scale. Their sea level chart also shows a 120,000 year cycle but you must be very careful in extrapolating repeating event from only two events. For example, just because you flip a coin 7 times and get HTTHTTH does not mean you have found a period of HTT in the coin flips.

The Younger Dryas happened about 12,000 year ago and the origin is not well understood, some favor a small asteroid impact. The Little Ice Age, not a true ice age, is a period of cooling that had minima around the years 1650, about 1770, and 1850. A possible cause are volanic events. But then that does fit into your 3600 year cycle anyway.

So you have not shown any 3600 year period.

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it's here, it aint goin nowhere, it's moving right next door to you. niburu bitches!
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I gave the TIME relations and the extreme drops that DO coincide with the 3600 yr approximate cycles. Had you got off your ass and went to that site and read, you would understand those graphs. Don't expect me to do all the work for you or, as usual, you will be waiting a long damn TIME. If you don't understand the graphs, those extreme temp swings, the effects that would have on this planet and it's life forms, & what it would take to create those extreme drops in such a short TIME, I surely hate it for you. If you want me to point and say this caused that,.... that won't happen either as it isn't my area of discussion.
You can, however, continue on saying no when YOU have nothing to bring to the table saying it didn't. Evidence proves however, as I was saying in a round about way, every 3600 average this planet experiences serious threatening conditions for life on this planet. The last 3600 approximately, was when the Mammoth went extinct. Many frozen with unchewed grasses in their mouths, science discovering now. This would have only been available from an event that almost instantly freeze dried them as they were still grazing.
Please, shill, don't make me find that site for you also. Do you own damn research, verses always saying "NO" without any research yourself.
Lazy fucks,....
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So how do we explain the cave paintings showing the solar system with an extra planet? (including demoted pluto)

If i was gonna carve a message in stone, out of all the things i could say - i think composing something to depict an extra planet would be BIG news and certainly worthy to be put in stone for future generations.

It seems to me all the prophecies are accurate - all of your opinions are accurate - as there is no 'nibiru' now showing....or last year...but it doesn't mean to say that there was NEVER an extra planet experienced in our solar system in the history of the earth, or in its future.

If it's there we won't miss the bastard! Just give it time....i can't wait for 2012 to be over just to get some matters put to bed as it were.
Whatever is coming, either cosmic or indigenous...most people agree 'it's coming' - and 'IT' will shake up the world we currently know.
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Extinction

It was generally assumed the last woolly mammoths vanished from Europe and southern Siberia about 10,000 BC, but new findings show some were still present there about 8,000 BC.[9] Woolly mammoths, as well as Columbian mammoths, disappeared also from the North American continent at the end of the last ice age. A small population of woolly mammoths survived on St. Paul Island, Alaska, until 3,750 BC,[10][11][12] while another remained on Wrangel Island, located in the Arctic Ocean, until 1700 BC. Possibly due to their limited food supply, these animals were a dwarf variety, thus much smaller than the original Pleistocene woolly mammoth.[13] However, the Wrangel Island mammoths should not be confused with the Channel Islands pygmy mammoth, Mammuthus exilis, which was a different species.
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[link to news.discovery.com]
How Did the Mammoths Go Extinct?
One of the potential culprits has been ruled out, but the debate rages over what killed off the last mammoths.

Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:00 PM ET
Content provided by Marlowe Hood, AFP

Woolly Mammoth

The fate of mammoths on Wrangel Island is not necessarily a microcosm for the species as a whole.
Getty Images

THE GIST:

* The last known mammoths died out quickly toward the end of the last ice age.
* Disease or humans may have wiped out the last mammoths; climate change probably did not.
* At least a few hardy individuals were still hanging on as late as 1700 B.C.



The last known population of woolly mammoths, roaming a remote Arctic island long after humans invented writing, were wiped out quickly, reports a study released Wednesday.

The culprit might have been disease, humans or a catastrophic weather event, but was almost certainly not climate change, suggests the study, published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B.

Exactly why a majority of the huge tuskers that once strode in large herds across Eurasia and north America died out toward the end of the last ice age has generated fiery debate.

Some experts hold that mammoths were hunted to extinction beginning some 10,000 years ago by the species that was to become the planet's dominant predator -- humans.
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[link to www.itsnature.org]
Most mammoths died out at the end of the last Ice Age. A definitive explanation for their mass extinction is yet to be agreed upon. However, the small mammoths of Wrangel Island became extinct only around 1700 to 1500 BC.
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You guys do realize that an object whose orbital radius is ~25,000-30,000 AUs is mutually exclusive with a claimed orbital period of only ~3600 years, right? Such an orbit would have a period in excess of a million years. In other words, if this theory is right, the Nibiru theory is wrong.

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Do we see an if there? I'm sure that we do,....

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Do we see an if there? I'm sure that we do,....
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So you accept that this research is not your claim's friend then, in fact it contradicts it, and you will now explain why your theory is superior, right?
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Do we see an if there? I'm sure that we do,....
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Hmmm, is Astronut beginning to show signs of coming over to the other side?

Just kidding Astronut.

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Hmmm, is Astronut beginning to show signs of coming over to the other side?

Just kidding Astronut.

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Epic,.... but no
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Just a reminder, if there were a massive object approaching the inner solar system on a 3600 year highly eccentric orbit on an approach from "under the ecliptic" for a perihelion in december 2012, this is what it would be doing to our solar system right now:

We would be at the point in the above video where the yellow line showing Saturn's orbit is pulled completely out of its previous orbit, just a moment before the red line showing Nibiru appears from under the ecliptic. Uranus shown by the green line can be seen "retracing" its orbit many years beforehand at the bottom of the screen as it is perturbed by the approaching object. We should have seen warning signs years ago and there should be unmistakeable problems even with the orbits of planets and objects as close as Saturn by now.
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I'm sure many won't recognize a catastrophic weather event being triggered at the correct TIME line, as proof that something like a large comet/planet could easily have been the cause of.
Not my theories, not my info,....

I'm nobody,....
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Just a reminder, if there were a massive object approaching the inner solar system on a 3600 year highly eccentric orbit on an approach from "under the ecliptic" for a perihelion in december 2012, this is what it would be doing to our solar system right now:
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In theory,....
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In theory,....
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If you want to rewrite all of orbital mechanics and physics, then let's see your superior model of celestial motion. Otherwise, Nibiru is bullshit.
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Our sun may have a companion that disturbs comets from the edge of the solar system a giant planet with up to four times the mass of Jupiter, researchers suggest.

A NASA space telescope launched last year may soon detect such a stealth companion to our sun, if it actually exists, in the distant icy realm of the comet-birthing Oort cloud, which surrounds our solar system with billions of icy objects.

The potential jumbo Jupiter would likely be a world so frigid it is difficult to spot, researchers said. It could be found up to 30,000 astronomical units from the sun. One AU is the distance between the Earth and the sun, about 93 million miles (150 million km).

[link to www.space.com]

Isn't it funny that they will call it anything and everything other then Nibiru?

And yet, this is pretty much an admission by NASA that they suspect Nibiru exists...
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Thanksgiving eve, i had a revelation that the Star of Bethlehem is Nibiru. God put the timer in place (Star of Bethlehem/Nibiru...to the end of this dispensation of time. The 3 wise men followed the strange bright star in the sky (Star of Bethlehem) one year before they found it shinning brightly over the manger where Christ was born....

Thats no accident, we will see Nibiru, one year before the last day of this dispensation of time, just like the wise men....Nibiru is 5 times the size of the earth....the magnetic pull of Nibiru will flip the north pole pulling it south as Nibiru on it's orbit passes by the earth, causing the end of this earth age. Thats the revelation given to me on Thanksgiving eve by the Holy Spirit.

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If you want to rewrite all of orbital mechanics and physics, then let's see your superior model of celestial motion. Otherwise, Nibiru is bullshit.
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Touched a nerve? What makes that theory any better than another?,.... Absolutely nothing!!!!
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Touched a nerve? What makes that theory any better than another?,.... Absolutely nothing!!!!
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Orbital mechanics is a very well studied science, you're going to have to do better than that. Simply claiming it's not better than any other theory does not make it so. A massive object approaching the inner solar system would make itself known gravitationally, and orbital mechanics demands that it be that close based on the specifics of the claim.
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Just a reminder, if there were a massive object approaching the inner solar system on a 3600 year highly eccentric orbit on an approach from "under the ecliptic" for a perihelion in december 2012, this is what it would be doing to our solar system right now:


In theory,....
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It's the same theory that is used to predict that there must be a large body (in this thread called "Planet X") out there deflecting comets into the inner solar system. If that theory is correct, then "Planet X" can't have a 3600 yr period. If "Planet X" has a 3600 year period, it is not a body tens of thousands of AU out from the Sun.
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We do accept readily that we/them, DON'T know all the possible factors on this planet, much less our galaxy, don't we? Or will you disagree on that being a fact as well? Science continually proves it's self wrong, given enough,.... TIME.
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Our sun may have a companion that disturbs comets from the edge of the solar system a giant planet with up to four times the mass of Jupiter, researchers suggest.

A NASA space telescope launched last year may soon detect such a stealth companion to our sun, if it actually exists, in the distant icy realm of the comet-birthing Oort cloud, which surrounds our solar system with billions of icy objects.

The potential jumbo Jupiter would likely be a world so frigid it is difficult to spot, researchers said. It could be found up to 30,000 astronomical units from the sun. One AU is the distance between the Earth and the sun, about 93 million miles (150 million km).

[link to www.space.com]

Isn't it funny that they will call it anything and everything other then Nibiru?

And yet, this is pretty much an admission by NASA that they suspect Nibiru exists...


Thanksgiving eve, i had a revelation that the Star of Bethlehem is Nibiru. God put the timer in place (Star of Bethlehem/Nibiru...to the end of this dispensation of time. The 3 wise men followed the strange bright star in the sky (Star of Bethlehem) one year before they found it shinning brightly over the manger where Christ was born....

Thats no accident, we will see Nibiru, one year before the last day of this dispensation of time, just like the wise men....Nibiru is 5 times the size of the earth....the magnetic pull of Nibiru will flip the north pole pulling it south as Nibiru on it's orbit passes by the earth, causing the end of this earth age. Thats the revelation given to me on Thanksgiving eve by the Holy Spirit.

THANK YOU FATHER
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it's even documented in scripture...

ISAIAH 45:1-6 (pretty much describes current events)

Verse Six:..from the rising of the sun, AND FROM THE WEST THAT THERE IS NONE BESIDE ME. I AM THE LORD, AND THERE IS NONE ELSE...

>>>>NIBIRU IS THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM<<<<GOD CREATED IT JUST FOR THIS PURPOS>>>>IT IS WRITTEN, ALL SCRIPTURE WILL COME TO PASS....FACT! NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN, THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE!

Isaiah 45
1Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

2I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

3And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

4For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

5I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

6That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
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We do accept readily that we/them, DON'T know all the possible factors on this planet, much less our galaxy, don't we?
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You don't need to know everything to know some things. For instance, I don't need to know everything about a planet/brown dwarf/whatever to know it can't both have an orbit 3600 years long and an orbital radius that takes it as far as 25,000-30,000 AUs. You complain that we don't know "all the factors" but the theory itself describes it as having certain factors, orbital period being one of them. We can use those factors to test the claim and see if it's true or not.
Or will you disagree on that being a fact as well? Science continually proves it's self wrong, given enough,.... TIME.
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So prove it wrong then, re-write physics.
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Our sun may have a companion that disturbs comets from the edge of the solar system a giant planet with up to four times the mass of Jupiter, researchers suggest.

A NASA space telescope launched last year may soon detect such a stealth companion to our sun, if it actually exists, in the distant icy realm of the comet-birthing Oort cloud, which surrounds our solar system with billions of icy objects.

The potential jumbo Jupiter would likely be a world so frigid it is difficult to spot, researchers said. It could be found up to 30,000 astronomical units from the sun. One AU is the distance between the Earth and the sun, about 93 million miles (150 million km).

[link to www.space.com]

Isn't it funny that they will call it anything and everything other then Nibiru?

And yet, this is pretty much an admission by NASA that they suspect Nibiru exists...


Thanksgiving eve, i had a revelation that the Star of Bethlehem is Nibiru. God put the timer in place (Star of Bethlehem/Nibiru...to the end of this dispensation of time. The 3 wise men followed the strange bright star in the sky (Star of Bethlehem) one year before they found it shinning brightly over the manger where Christ was born....

Thats no accident, we will see Nibiru, one year before the last day of this dispensation of time, just like the wise men....Nibiru is 5 times the size of the earth....the magnetic pull of Nibiru will flip the north pole pulling it south as Nibiru on it's orbit passes by the earth, causing the end of this earth age. Thats the revelation given to me on Thanksgiving eve by the Holy Spirit.

THANK YOU FATHER
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it's even documented in scripture...

ISAIAH 45:1-6 (pretty much describes current events)

Verse Six:..from the rising of the sun, AND FROM THE WEST THAT THERE IS NONE BESIDE ME. I AM THE LORD, AND THERE IS NONE ELSE...

>>>>NIBIRU IS THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM<<<<GOD CREATED IT JUST FOR THIS PURPOS>>>>IT IS WRITTEN, ALL SCRIPTURE WILL COME TO PASS....FACT! NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN, THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE!

Isaiah 45
1Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

2I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

3And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

4For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

5I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

6That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
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Actually I will tell you this, and this is from research I just did yesterday. When Jesus was crucified, Planet X passed by. It comes from the direction of Orion. It freaked me out what I found! Would anyone care to know what I have discovered from my studies?
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TIME IIII a change,....
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Finish re-writing physics yet?
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I didn't write the continually revised 1st edition,....

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Finish re-writing physics yet?

I didn't write the continually revised 1st edition,....

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So you just don't believe phsyics then, it carries no weight with you, got it. Let me know when you finish writing your own version.
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