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AMERICAN Women bring out the WORST in you!!!

 
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Here we go again ....
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Wow, you're cute AND you like Gov't Mule!
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I am so weary of all these women-hating, women-bashing threads. Funny how you rarely see women bashing on men on this forum. The men that bash - stop whining, grow up and look in the mirror and find out where YOU might improve YOUR behavior. There are bitches and there are jerks in both genders. Stop painting one gender with one brush. Geezus.
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it's not hard for a woman to get into a relationship and get sex.. all she has to do is basically leave the house and walk around.. the guy has to do all the work. Some guys are just not cut out for it and are going to lash out, especially if they are treated differently for no other reason then how they look.
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Most people I know living in the real world don't have this debate.

They are families and they love each other and they are happy.

I always wonder where this hate against American women comes from, seeing as how the American women I know are loved and cherished just fine by their husbands.

Why bother op? Why not just order a bride online and be done with it?
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I have to agree here...quit trying to justify what you really want and just go for it.
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Most people I know living in the real world don't have this debate.

They are families and they love each other and they are happy.

I always wonder where this hate against American women comes from, seeing as how the American women I know are loved and cherished just fine by their husbands.

Why bother op? Why not just order a bride online and be done with it?
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Hatred of anyone ALWAYS comes from self-hatred first and foremost. People who blame others, who project their problems onto others, rather than realizing that it starts with themselves, have a harder time with self inquiry.
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I would like to add a really helpful book I read to help my understanding of men and vice versa...Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus....

My ex and I would read a chapter every night...I would read a chapter, and highlight things I wanted him to especially look into and he would do the same and we would switch. It did help.

I know one of my problems - as in something I needed to stop - was when we would be arguing about something and when he would try to drop the subject I would keep going and going and going, I felt I was not heard at all.....well, thats considered nagging to some people, really I would like to believe he did care about what I was saying, but I should have dropped it and let him go to his "mancave" when he was upset....and brought it up again another time when we both had some air.

This is one example of something I learned in this book...another thing is appreciation...it goes a long way, (when its not fake of course)...you're stroking their ego of course which is fine, but I think it makes them feel fulfilled as a man/breadwinner/hero extraoridaire. It does something primally good.

Women also deserve appreciation, it IS a two way street. Taking care of a home and kids and meals isn't a walk in the park...coming up behind your wife slaving in the kitchen and telling her how sexy it is or how you appreciate it also goes a long way...

Can you see a great FRIENDSHIP in this? Trying to understand the way EACHOTHER tick instead of bashing?


"Taking care of a home and kids and meals" is a pleasure not a choir. Doing something for your family is an expression of your love or your feelings toward your family, and if you truly love your family then you would even do it without the need for "reciprocation" or "appreciation."


Oh geez....I guess maybe I need to get into one taking care of themselves as well...

Are you trying to tell me doing those jobs is all cake?


those are not jobs. your thinking is flawed. your purpose in life is to have a family--something that made you alive, made your life worth living.

now, i understand you when you say that some men are lame. look at lions, for example. (actually, when i need inspiration, i watch lion videos on youtube). lionesses go hunt and kill, but lions come and take it away with a fight. they surrender with respect understanding the simplest truth of life that without a male they are nothing because they suffer the most when they are lonely.


Ok...shall we call it a roll then, in a man/woman with a family situation? It is still work.

My dogs and kids keep me pretty un-lonely.
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do you like dogs more than men?
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I would like to add a really helpful book I read to help my understanding of men and vice versa...Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus....

My ex and I would read a chapter every night...I would read a chapter, and highlight things I wanted him to especially look into and he would do the same and we would switch. It did help.

I know one of my problems - as in something I needed to stop - was when we would be arguing about something and when he would try to drop the subject I would keep going and going and going, I felt I was not heard at all.....well, thats considered nagging to some people, really I would like to believe he did care about what I was saying, but I should have dropped it and let him go to his "mancave" when he was upset....and brought it up again another time when we both had some air.

This is one example of something I learned in this book...another thing is appreciation...it goes a long way, (when its not fake of course)...you're stroking their ego of course which is fine, but I think it makes them feel fulfilled as a man/breadwinner/hero extraoridaire. It does something primally good.

Women also deserve appreciation, it IS a two way street. Taking care of a home and kids and meals isn't a walk in the park...coming up behind your wife slaving in the kitchen and telling her how sexy it is or how you appreciate it also goes a long way...

Can you see a great FRIENDSHIP in this? Trying to understand the way EACHOTHER tick instead of bashing?


"Taking care of a home and kids and meals" is a pleasure not a choir. Doing something for your family is an expression of your love or your feelings toward your family, and if you truly love your family then you would even do it without the need for "reciprocation" or "appreciation."


Oh geez....I guess maybe I need to get into one taking care of themselves as well...

Are you trying to tell me doing those jobs is all cake?


those are not jobs. your thinking is flawed. your purpose in life is to have a family--something that made you alive, made your life worth living.

now, i understand you when you say that some men are lame. look at lions, for example. (actually, when i need inspiration, i watch lion videos on youtube). lionesses go hunt and kill, but lions come and take it away with a fight. they surrender with respect understanding the simplest truth of life that without a male they are nothing because they suffer the most when they are lonely.


Ok...shall we call it a roll then, in a man/woman with a family situation? It is still work.

My dogs and kids keep me pretty un-lonely.


do you like dogs more than men?
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Hmmmmmm....welllll no, but I'm sure not lonely with the 3 I have at home =)
Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette
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Most people I know living in the real world don't have this debate.

They are families and they love each other and they are happy.

I always wonder where this hate against American women comes from, seeing as how the American women I know are loved and cherished just fine by their husbands.

Why bother op? Why not just order a bride online and be done with it?

Hatred of anyone ALWAYS comes from self-hatred first and foremost. People who blame others, who project their problems onto others, rather than realizing that it starts with themselves, have a harder time with self inquiry.
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it's true, it really is. But you'd be amazed what another person in your life can do to change a person's perspective and attitude .. it may seem weak to need another person in your life, but it's the way we were designed. There are a lot of guys who seem like assholes here that if really given a chance by the right woman, would really come out to shine. It doesn't work that way though. Betas get the leftovers. That's the way it is. Live with it.
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I would like to add a really helpful book I read to help my understanding of men and vice versa...Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus....

My ex and I would read a chapter every night...I would read a chapter, and highlight things I wanted him to especially look into and he would do the same and we would switch. It did help.

I know one of my problems - as in something I needed to stop - was when we would be arguing about something and when he would try to drop the subject I would keep going and going and going, I felt I was not heard at all.....well, thats considered nagging to some people, really I would like to believe he did care about what I was saying, but I should have dropped it and let him go to his "mancave" when he was upset....and brought it up again another time when we both had some air.

This is one example of something I learned in this book...another thing is appreciation...it goes a long way, (when its not fake of course)...you're stroking their ego of course which is fine, but I think it makes them feel fulfilled as a man/breadwinner/hero extraoridaire. It does something primally good.

Women also deserve appreciation, it IS a two way street. Taking care of a home and kids and meals isn't a walk in the park...coming up behind your wife slaving in the kitchen and telling her how sexy it is or how you appreciate it also goes a long way...

Can you see a great FRIENDSHIP in this? Trying to understand the way EACHOTHER tick instead of bashing?


"Taking care of a home and kids and meals" is a pleasure not a choir. Doing something for your family is an expression of your love or your feelings toward your family, and if you truly love your family then you would even do it without the need for "reciprocation" or "appreciation."


Oh geez....I guess maybe I need to get into one taking care of themselves as well...

Are you trying to tell me doing those jobs is all cake?


those are not jobs. your thinking is flawed. your purpose in life is to have a family--something that made you alive, made your life worth living.

now, i understand you when you say that some men are lame. look at lions, for example. (actually, when i need inspiration, i watch lion videos on youtube). lionesses go hunt and kill, but lions come and take it away with a fight. they surrender with respect understanding the simplest truth of life that without a male they are nothing because they suffer the most when they are lonely.


Ok...shall we call it a roll then, in a man/woman with a family situation? It is still work.

My dogs and kids keep me pretty un-lonely.


do you like dogs more than men?


Hmmmmmm....welllll no, but I'm sure not lonely with the 3 I have at home =)
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good for you. do they have big penises too?
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I would like to add a really helpful book I read to help my understanding of men and vice versa...Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus....

My ex and I would read a chapter every night...I would read a chapter, and highlight things I wanted him to especially look into and he would do the same and we would switch. It did help.

I know one of my problems - as in something I needed to stop - was when we would be arguing about something and when he would try to drop the subject I would keep going and going and going, I felt I was not heard at all.....well, thats considered nagging to some people, really I would like to believe he did care about what I was saying, but I should have dropped it and let him go to his "mancave" when he was upset....and brought it up again another time when we both had some air.

This is one example of something I learned in this book...another thing is appreciation...it goes a long way, (when its not fake of course)...you're stroking their ego of course which is fine, but I think it makes them feel fulfilled as a man/breadwinner/hero extraoridaire. It does something primally good.

Women also deserve appreciation, it IS a two way street. Taking care of a home and kids and meals isn't a walk in the park...coming up behind your wife slaving in the kitchen and telling her how sexy it is or how you appreciate it also goes a long way...

Can you see a great FRIENDSHIP in this? Trying to understand the way EACHOTHER tick instead of bashing?


"Taking care of a home and kids and meals" is a pleasure not a choir. Doing something for your family is an expression of your love or your feelings toward your family, and if you truly love your family then you would even do it without the need for "reciprocation" or "appreciation."


Oh geez....I guess maybe I need to get into one taking care of themselves as well...

Are you trying to tell me doing those jobs is all cake?


those are not jobs. your thinking is flawed. your purpose in life is to have a family--something that made you alive, made your life worth living.

now, i understand you when you say that some men are lame. look at lions, for example. (actually, when i need inspiration, i watch lion videos on youtube). lionesses go hunt and kill, but lions come and take it away with a fight. they surrender with respect understanding the simplest truth of life that without a male they are nothing because they suffer the most when they are lonely.


Ok...shall we call it a roll then, in a man/woman with a family situation? It is still work.

My dogs and kids keep me pretty un-lonely.


do you like dogs more than men?


Hmmmmmm....welllll no, but I'm sure not lonely with the 3 I have at home =)

good for you. do they have big penises too?
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*sigh*...whats the matter with you?
Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette
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[link to happiestmen.com]


Feminists believe that all men are evil abusers.

When a man abuses them, deep down they feel a creamy sense of satisfaction. Their belief has been validated.

Therefore they carefully craft a life, and surround themselves with people who will create more of this abuse.

Thus further confirming their belief structure.

This type of mentality has been studied and explored by countless psychologists, and is well-understood by all people with common sense.

Also, there is a more dangerous issue, here.

Men are very "susceptible" to women's opinions of us. Let's face it guys, when we get married, we are very likely to start changing in response to our woman's needs. We can't help it...her emotions are so strong, and our sense of responsibility to her is so deep, that we can't help but slowly become the man she envisions us to be.

That can be good, or bad. A man who is married to an angry feminist will often become more abusive, fulfilling her expectations of him. She accuses him of shit he didn't do...finally he thinks "well, if she's going to treat me like a scumbag, then by golly I should just go ahead and be a scumbag."

On the other hand, a man who marries a loving woman (who trusts men) will usually become more worthy of trust, thus fulfilling her expectations of him.

The old cliche of "behind every great man is great woman" is so true.

Men, choose your wife carefully. Her mental image of men will probably become your destiny. Avoid women who think badly of men (which as you know, includes the vast majority of American women).
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So, your are trying to condone why you are an abusive ass. This removes all the responsiblity off of you and on to the one your abusing. This has been studied for years and is classic behavior/thought process for a man with low self esteem. This low self esteem comes from being sexually abused by your father, uncle or male neighbor. You are keeping true to the cycle of abuse.
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I am so weary of all these women-hating, women-bashing threads. Funny how you rarely see women bashing on men on this forum. The men that bash - stop whining, grow up and look in the mirror and find out where YOU might improve YOUR behavior. There are bitches and there are jerks in both genders. Stop painting one gender with one brush. Geezus.

it's not hard for a woman to get into a relationship and get sex.. all she has to do is basically leave the house and walk around.. the guy has to do all the work. Some guys are just not cut out for it and are going to lash out, especially if they are treated differently for no other reason then how they look.
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Being one of these unattractive delta males i used to lash out.

But im over it now, in the end it is better to not be attractive to women.

I look around at my friends who are married etc.. and they are miserable talking about how lucky i am to have freedom etc..
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I would like to add a really helpful book I read to help my understanding of men and vice versa...Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus....

My ex and I would read a chapter every night...I would read a chapter, and highlight things I wanted him to especially look into and he would do the same and we would switch. It did help.

I know one of my problems - as in something I needed to stop - was when we would be arguing about something and when he would try to drop the subject I would keep going and going and going, I felt I was not heard at all.....well, thats considered nagging to some people, really I would like to believe he did care about what I was saying, but I should have dropped it and let him go to his "mancave" when he was upset....and brought it up again another time when we both had some air.

This is one example of something I learned in this book...another thing is appreciation...it goes a long way, (when its not fake of course)...you're stroking their ego of course which is fine, but I think it makes them feel fulfilled as a man/breadwinner/hero extraoridaire. It does something primally good.

Women also deserve appreciation, it IS a two way street. Taking care of a home and kids and meals isn't a walk in the park...coming up behind your wife slaving in the kitchen and telling her how sexy it is or how you appreciate it also goes a long way...

Can you see a great FRIENDSHIP in this? Trying to understand the way EACHOTHER tick instead of bashing?


"Taking care of a home and kids and meals" is a pleasure not a choir. Doing something for your family is an expression of your love or your feelings toward your family, and if you truly love your family then you would even do it without the need for "reciprocation" or "appreciation."


Oh geez....I guess maybe I need to get into one taking care of themselves as well...

Are you trying to tell me doing those jobs is all cake?


those are not jobs. your thinking is flawed. your purpose in life is to have a family--something that made you alive, made your life worth living.

now, i understand you when you say that some men are lame. look at lions, for example. (actually, when i need inspiration, i watch lion videos on youtube). lionesses go hunt and kill, but lions come and take it away with a fight. they surrender with respect understanding the simplest truth of life that without a male they are nothing because they suffer the most when they are lonely.


Ok...shall we call it a roll then, in a man/woman with a family situation? It is still work.

My dogs and kids keep me pretty un-lonely.


do you like dogs more than men?


Hmmmmmm....welllll no, but I'm sure not lonely with the 3 I have at home =)

good for you. do they have big penises too?


*sigh*...whats the matter with you?
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what do you mean? what do you do when you get the urge? do you use a dog or a silicone dildo? how do you get off yo?
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Here we go again ....


Wow, you're cute AND you like Gov't Mule!
hf
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Thanks.

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When the shit hits the fan and the end is quite nigh,
will you cry out to heaven? Will you lay down and die?

Not me, my dear ones. This is my sacred life. To no one or no thing I'll surrender.

For how does one know where when dead he will go, or if sweet mother Earth she'll remember?
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how old are you? Do you spend much time around women under 30? From my experience a very small percentage of women under 30 are marriage material... most will get pregnant and have kids, but the man in their life will not be stable, just because of their partying lifestyle. Not ALL women are like this, maybe 80 percent, and a poster on GLP is not going to be a good representation of the average female either.
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I'm 35.

Who in their right mind would get married under 30? OK maybe some people, but I sure wasn't into that in my 20's.

I was 29 when I got married.

Why would you want to marry a girl who is still clubbing? Don't blame them for it. That's just life.

I certainly wasn't ready for marriage at 25.

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When the shit hits the fan and the end is quite nigh,
will you cry out to heaven? Will you lay down and die?

Not me, my dear ones. This is my sacred life. To no one or no thing I'll surrender.

For how does one know where when dead he will go, or if sweet mother Earth she'll remember?
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Ok...shall we call it a roll then, in a man/woman with a family situation? It is still work.

My dogs and kids keep me pretty un-lonely.


do you like dogs more than men?


Hmmmmmm....welllll no, but I'm sure not lonely with the 3 I have at home =)

good for you. do they have big penises too?


*sigh*...whats the matter with you?


what do you mean? what do you do when you get the urge? do you use a dog or a silicone dildo? how do you get off yo?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1182624


I have a fiance dumbass...and when he's not around I have BOB...sometimes my fingers are enough....happy now? lolz

Apparently you are mixing up loneliness with horniness...I guess this should be another chapter in Men are from Mars, Women from Venus eh?
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do you like dogs more than men?
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There are some dogs I definitely like better than I like some men.
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Why would you want to marry a girl who is still clubbing? Don't blame them for it. That's just life.

I certainly wasn't ready for marriage at 25.
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OMG, I cannot imagine having gotten marriecd as young as I did to a man my own age. I didn't have a clue what was going on. If he didn't have his life plan in order, we'd have been screwed.
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Why would you want to marry a girl who is still clubbing? Don't blame them for it. That's just life.

I certainly wasn't ready for marriage at 25.


OMG, I cannot imagine having gotten marriecd as young as I did to a man my own age. I didn't have a clue what was going on. If he didn't have his life plan in order, we'd have been screwed.
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You got lucky chicky...most are 10 years or so behind...if I could go back in time I would have gotten over my fear of older men.
Our perfect companions never have fewer than four feet. ~Colette
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You got lucky chicky...most are 10 years or so behind...if I could go back in time I would have gotten over my fear of older men.
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Fear of older men, huh?

I don't think I've ever been attracted to a man my age. But then, when I got married, there were no men my age. They were boys at best.
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You got lucky chicky...most are 10 years or so behind...if I could go back in time I would have gotten over my fear of older men.


Fear of older men, huh?

I don't think I've ever been attracted to a man my age. But then, when I got married, there were no men my age. They were boys at best.
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Yup...crazy huh.
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Most people I know living in the real world don't have this debate.

They are families and they love each other and they are happy.

I always wonder where this hate against American women comes from, seeing as how the American women I know are loved and cherished just fine by their husbands.

Why bother op? Why not just order a bride online and be done with it?

Hatred of anyone ALWAYS comes from self-hatred first and foremost. People who blame others, who project their problems onto others, rather than realizing that it starts with themselves, have a harder time with self inquiry.



it's true, it really is. But you'd be amazed what another person in your life can do to change a person's perspective and attitude .. it may seem weak to need another person in your life, but it's the way we were designed. There are a lot of guys who seem like assholes here that if really given a chance by the right woman, would really come out to shine. It doesn't work that way though. Betas get the leftovers. That's the way it is. Live with it.
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It is not weak, it is just where they are on their spiritual journey.
But, ideally, they should not NEED anyone else to help them know themselves.
Everyone would shine if they were in a relationship with the right partner.
But to be in a right realtionship with YOURSELF? No, you do not need anyone else but yourself.
If more people took the time to get to really know themselves before they got married, there would be far fewer divorces.
Once you know yourself, you would choose a partner based on personality, rather than looks. You would choose a partner based on similar life paths rather than earning potential You would realize that there is not such thing as 'leftovers'.
Saying something like "betas get the leftovers' is a defeatist mentality. There is someone for everyone. Yes, "ugly + poor men" are not going to get super models. (Just like ugly + fat women are not going to get super hot men.)

But if they start to know themselves, improve their attitude and personality, they will find someone who complements them well enough.
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Most people I know living in the real world don't have this debate.

They are families and they love each other and they are happy.

I always wonder where this hate against American women comes from, seeing as how the American women I know are loved and cherished just fine by their husbands.

Why bother op? Why not just order a bride online and be done with it?

Hatred of anyone ALWAYS comes from self-hatred first and foremost. People who blame others, who project their problems onto others, rather than realizing that it starts with themselves, have a harder time with self inquiry.



it's true, it really is. But you'd be amazed what another person in your life can do to change a person's perspective and attitude .. it may seem weak to need another person in your life, but it's the way we were designed. There are a lot of guys who seem like assholes here that if really given a chance by the right woman, would really come out to shine. It doesn't work that way though. Betas get the leftovers. That's the way it is. Live with it.

It is not weak, it is just where they are on their spiritual journey.
But, ideally, they should not NEED anyone else to help them know themselves.
Everyone would shine if they were in a relationship with the right partner.
But to be in a right realtionship with YOURSELF? No, you do not need anyone else but yourself.
If more people took the time to get to really know themselves before they got married, there would be far fewer divorces.
Once you know yourself, you would choose a partner based on personality, rather than looks. You would choose a partner based on similar life paths rather than earning potential You would realize that there is not such thing as 'leftovers'.
Saying something like "betas get the leftovers' is a defeatist mentality. There is someone for everyone. Yes, "ugly + poor men" are not going to get super models. (Just like ugly + fat women are not going to get super hot men.)

But if they start to know themselves, improve their attitude and personality, they will find someone who complements them well enough.
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This is totally true and beautiful, really. hf
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When the shit hits the fan and the end is quite nigh,
will you cry out to heaven? Will you lay down and die?

Not me, my dear ones. This is my sacred life. To no one or no thing I'll surrender.

For how does one know where when dead he will go, or if sweet mother Earth she'll remember?
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Apparently you are mixing up loneliness with horniness...I guess this should be another chapter in Men are from Mars, Women from Venus eh?
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Good catch there. I guess men equate emotional needs with sexual needs?
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Apparently you are mixing up loneliness with horniness...I guess this should be another chapter in Men are from Mars, Women from Venus eh?

Good catch there. I guess men equate emotional needs with sexual needs?
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Well....yes...now that I think about it more, alot of women (myself included) love cuddle time without the sex...alot of men see this as a que for sex...can't we all just compromise sometimes? =)
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Here we go again ....
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It's a daily thing, isn't it?
Everyone dies, but not everyone lives.

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Apparently you are mixing up loneliness with horniness...I guess this should be another chapter in Men are from Mars, Women from Venus eh?

Good catch there. I guess men equate emotional needs with sexual needs?



Well....yes...now that I think about it more, alot of women (myself included) love cuddle time without the sex...alot of men see this as a que for sex...can't we all just compromise sometimes? =)
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During that time of the month, yes.

lol
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Apparently you are mixing up loneliness with horniness...I guess this should be another chapter in Men are from Mars, Women from Venus eh?

Good catch there. I guess men equate emotional needs with sexual needs?



Well....yes...now that I think about it more, alot of women (myself included) love cuddle time without the sex...alot of men see this as a que for sex...can't we all just compromise sometimes? =)


During that time of the month, yes.

lol
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Brat!!! lolz
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how old are you? Do you spend much time around women under 30? From my experience a very small percentage of women under 30 are marriage material... most will get pregnant and have kids, but the man in their life will not be stable, just because of their partying lifestyle. Not ALL women are like this, maybe 80 percent, and a poster on GLP is not going to be a good representation of the average female either.


I'm 35.

Who in their right mind would get married under 30? OK maybe some people, but I sure wasn't into that in my 20's.

I was 29 when I got married.

Why would you want to marry a girl who is still clubbing? Don't blame them for it. That's just life.

I certainly wasn't ready for marriage at 25.
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Damn, you're like me... but female.

I ALWAYS say to NOT get married before age 30.
I bet most of the divorces come from relationships were people got married at age 19 and thought they were in love until college came and then the real world and a job... and children... and then they wonder why they couldn't handle it all.
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So, your are trying to condone why you are an abusive ass. This removes all the responsiblity off of you and on to the one your abusing. This has been studied for years and is classic behavior/thought process for a man with low self esteem. This low self esteem comes from being sexually abused by your father, uncle or male neighbor. You are keeping true to the cycle of abuse.
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I have never been sexually abused.
However I did not have parents that were into parenthood; they raised me with the dollar

They are still raising me with monies; isn't money great?
I am not happy however.

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That is my car; my house; my desk; my dining room; my cat


My wife had everything

but then again; she had nothing

she didn't have any emotional support from me and I just cant bring myself to be caring loving b/c somehow somewhere back then I had some smart parents that decided that boarding school was awesome and life will be good once their millions turned into katrillions
For what will it profit men that a more prudent distribution and use of riches make it possible for them to gain even the whole world, if thereby they suffer the loss of their own souls?
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I guess I'm doing fine at 29 going on 30 as a male then.. since I've never really had an interest in partying nor have I had an interest in older women, I've been kind of stuck in waiting mode until I grow old enough to find women that I would vibe with to marry, not to screw and party with... but I don't think dating a woman who's spent her entire 20's clubbing is a good idea for a guy that is not into that sort of thing. Because that bar/club scene never really grows out of a person, they will always have that desire to do it, and with that comes encounters with lots of single men and the opportunity to trade up.

Plus a whole woman's personality changes after years of dealing with the type of men that frequent clubs. The solution is to try to find those few, maybe 10 percent, that are not into that stuff.





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