just archiving from a Sandi t thread.

Note the final verse here. The bible explicitly drives home the idea that THEY DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE NAKED. The bible is bending over backward to point out their innocence. They do NOT know right from wrong.

I'll be back in a minute to discuss why these highlighted points matter.
Quoting: Sandi_T


Yes, they did not know right from wrong... if you are trying to say "then how could they sin? How could they be held accountable for disobeying God?" Well, the bible clearly says...
" And the LORD God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”
Obviously adam saw God, and had knowledge of what God was saying. God clearly told adam the consequences of eating from that tree.
..Also, God didn't mean adam would die instantaneously . He meant that once he had knowledge of what good and evil was, he would be then held accountable for the wrong actions in his life. The curse of death is a punishment on mankind because of the evil that mankind does
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1340117


well the whole bible story of Adam and Eve IS completely a story line and no where near close. They did know right from wrong, they were NOT first man and woman, and to understand a story that happened in fact 38,000 years ago you need to read in the Urantia Book. How the hebrews even had that story in their history telling I do not know because they arrived on this planet 14,000 years ago and started their race from 3 survivors of the crash landing, one man and his two wives. go figure. IF the Adam and EVE story was even part of their oral history in the first place. When Adam and Eve came to this planet from the heaven world called Jerusem, (not jerusalem), 38,000 years ago the world was fully populated people. There was a global society at that time. The first evolved people on this planet to get Father Fragments that was nearly 1 million years ago. The planet has many times been colonized by people from other worlds since the days of the dinosaurs and scientists have found human remains from those ancient days.

The black and yellow races came from a dying planet 1.3 million years ago. Their eventual inter-mating here plus mating with existing peoples, led to the ARAB. They brought the pouch animals of Australia with them.

Your bible is an ignorant history carried forth by one ignorant set of people. The old testament is a story of this race that began from one man and two woman, who were superior at that time to the races around them, and they chose to not interbreed with the others, but surely some of their descendants eventually did. They lost their real stories and knowledge of God over those 12,000 years before the time of Christ and that was one reason for choosing that area of the world for the bestowal mission, plus that area was heavily infested with anunnaki folks also. The mission of Christ was not just a mission of teaching, it was the ending also of the Lucifer Rebellion, and Michael of Nebadon came personally to do so and Lucifer was removed at that time from this planet to a "heavenly" JAIL. There are jails in heaven, and there are COURTS. To those of you thinking yourselves so special as Christians, (you are not special, but only a few of you), the statements made by Jesus, of his being the way, were specifically at the time for those 10 BILLION galactic thugs and fallen angels incarnate on this, their prison world.

It was saying they have until these end times to return to the ways of heaven, or they will face those courts for actions, that is what the judgement is,, THEIR JUDGEMENT. They have been mucking up for 200,000 years now on this world. Enough is enough. It is JUDGEMENT TIME because GAIA is herself ascending, it's the end of the great cycle around the Milky Way, (a great cycle is 225 million years). Now regards judgement, because it's the end of a great cycle, it is also a SORTING time for those that are evolutionary souls of this world, because of the ascension of our solar system. A large chunk of Nebadon right now is in, or has recently been in, or is coming into, these energies from the center of the Milky Way and moving up is IN ORDER. Also the entire local universe (sector of the creation) all planets with evolving human level life that are not yet 4d are being moved into 4d, to help get a grip on the widespread issue of THUGS in this universe.

Many of us are here watching, studying, learning, because this filth must be stopped that has occurred in excess of balance, or it will INFEST the younger planets, and planets to come into being. EARTH IS A MAJOR ROLE PLAYER folks. The mission of your falsely named "Jesus" was way more than a simple man who taught basic truth. All of Orvonton and even the Father in Paradise is watching and involved here and you ones would be stunned if you actually knew anything about the management of the creation, who is here INCARNATE on this world, working to raise it up. The entire solar system is cleansed of the thugs, the anunnaki signed a treaty maybe 20 years ago and then broke it and were escorted a very long distance from here.

The timing of the Christ visit 2000 years ago was around dealing with the return of Nibiru at that time also. It was the plan of Anu to fully own this world and solar system at that time. He did not accomplish that. Nibiru is NOT due now, it will in fact never be here again. You Christians have immortalized Nibiru on your Christmas Card and legends as the Star of Bethlehem. PONDER that for you give homage to the satanic ones with, and know it not.

You also honor a cross with a dead jesus hanging on it. That is satanic in origin, a celebration by the satanists of what they thought was the murder of Christ. Get those crucifixes out of your homes and off you chains around you necks, for in using them you are celebrating the attempted murder of Miichael of Nebadon and Esu, the two that shared that body. Michael LEFT at that time, the crucifixion, and Esu continued on using the body to India. Where he married, had 5 children, taught throughout Central Asia, and passed this plane at about 115 years of age. The body is buried near Srinagar, Kashmir.

There was NO resurrection of Jesus. Resurrection is of the SOUL, not the body, and you MUST choose eternal life, Jesus or nobody else does this for you. Both above are eternal souls and require no resurrection! You were LIED too. It doesn't even work that way and you ones thus follow some really stupid shit. Some of you here are old souls, you got "saved" with your first life a really long time ago. And yet you accept the shit. This is the end of an age, and all are sorted to where they belong. Those who are new souls and not yet 3 circle spiritual level will find themselves on the mansion worlds. The resurrection in fact of these ones is on going, as they pass and also those "sleeping" many have already be called to those beginning heaven worlds. those since 2000 years ago who make 3rd circle during their lives, find themselves there in 3 days after passing this plane.

Those "sleeping" and awaiting resurrection, are not waiting in their graves either! How many people have NO GRAVE to wait in????? Ponder that. There was a resurrection also around the year 1000. These can be done whenever there is space available to accept new folks on the lower mansion worlds. You are given a NEW BODY THERE. YOU DO NOT TAKE THESE LOUSY BODIES EVER to "Heaven." OK. You have been taught a great deal of false material, that is arranged by the thugs of this world to be taught in your lousy, and often satanic infested churches.

Many of your clerics are completely satanic and I see you ones in church worshipping them as great clerics, all because they are great tellers of lies. Ponder that one. You ones were guided many years ago to vote for thugs by the like of Pat Roberson and Jerry Falwell, in whatever that movement was called. IT WAS EVIL. The Religious Right, was that it???? Well it was the Religious Satanic Movement you ones participated in and it still is. Pompous Jerry Falwell used to gloat about what he did, because he made such good money for it from you ones. this is not the behavior of GOD KNOWING PEOPLE. God knowing people to do NOT follow bullshit without asking questions. You ones repeat tons of false shit from the bible. And the thugs re write your bible as desired to control you to do their bidding.

There was exactly NO RAPTURE shit in Christianity until that was set in place in the 1800's by Darby. Go look up that thug. And your Israel SHIT you support, was not there either, until it was changed by Scofield! Go look up HIS bible! The Khazar Zionists are those ones imprisoned on this prison ward and you help them right along. You will not get them out of our own government. These same ones who stole Israel in the 1900's were also the BOLSHEVIKS who destroyed CHRISTIAN RUSSIA also. They came to the United STates, changed their names and proceeded to destroy this country. DID you know that Daddy BUSH WAS NOT born in this country even? The BUSHES changed their names. I forget this morning what it used to be.

And you ones have continued here to CRAP on Sandi T, who IS very god knowing and walks her path with again, great courage, to stand against some of you here. She is very capable of pointing out the crap and inconsistancies that you yourselves do not look at. I have read the whole thing, and I was NOT impressed. I am here serving the RETURN, on purpose. And what I see in Christianity as it exists today is truly ugly. You Catholics should be looking into how your little nuns particularly in cloistered groups are treated. HUGE satanism. they are required to give themselves to whatever local father priest is there, and their babies are sacrificed in terrible satanic manners. You ones should be completely ashamed of that church.

Esu Immanuel and Michael of Nebadon never started a religion. Keep that in your memory. All of Esu's works in central asia did not produce a religion there like the one you FOLLOW. You could use your churches for so much better greater good. Only a few churches are truly workers of Christ. Most are controlled an manipulated. And the Mormon church is even more satanic than the Catholic Church. You who are evangelicals are hugely deluded. Most of you ARe Christian Zionists, including also the Baptists. You support the very antichrist manifesting thru Israel and the very satanic star of david.

And most of you still cannot answer the question about the Muslims and all the other religions about how they are to here of Jesus. Every excuse I have read shines with grossly immature thinking on the topic. YOur purpose on this planet is to grow your MINDS/Souls. It is your purpose to learn to THINK and not just "copy." be about that, and you shall become more like God.

Ok, off to do whatever today brings. Start your thinking and read Sandi's material very carefully and actually do think about it. Your bible is corrupted and it's a poor book to study to learn about God. I found the Quran, which is equally as corrupted a better read regards the creation and it's rules, the science in it is far better. Science, true science is in fact HOW GOD IS PROVEN! for his laws are the laws of MATTEr and how it behaves. Man will prove the soul at some point using science. In fact, in Russia, where science is way ahead of this country, and they work totally different there, the soul has already been proved.

And as to the above quoted post, you ones don't even know what that TREE was. It was actually a tree with special fruit that provided energies their higher bodies needed. They GLOWED, which is where the "halo" comes from. And "God" was not watching them, but rather an "angel" to your knowing. that whole story is full of pure crap, nothing about it is true.

Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 8/6/2011 8:07 AM