Dense interstellar space clouds (like the one we're entering) and you, what will happen? Can cause magnetic reversal.

Thanks OP that gives me a jumping off point for further research. Take care and keep up the good work. rken

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I think many people may be intimidated thinking that this type of information is "beyond their level" of understanding. I know there are times that I feel very intimidated as I learn more and more about "Fluffy"; my comprehension is increasing; but, I still have to read some posts two or three times to really get what is being said. It may also be that many people don't want to take the time to read and since there aren't many easy to understand videos they skip these posts.

Glad you reposted some of the information from the original thread.

Shit rapidly approaching the fan.

Dense interstellar plasma clouds (like the one we're entering) and you, what will happen?



i might have a beer.

Since there is really nothing we can do short of creating a powerful magnetic repulsion effect to steer the plasma out of our way, I'll have to agree. Kick back and watch the show and hope the changes aren't too great that we cannot survive. I wonder if this has anything to do with the switch to digital from the standard frequencies, plasma emits EM frequencies and can interfere with our communications as the Navy knows all too well from their dealings with the ionosphere and solar storms.

It would be cool if it turns out to be a form of life on a scale unrecognized by us until now however. It would also suggest the universe itself is alive on an even bigger scale than we could comprehend. Just like our cells cannot comprehend that they are part of something bigger.

Perhaps we can generate an insulation response that doesn't rely on technology.
Rather than repel the plasma, we can harmonize with it in some way.
Maybe that way has something to do with recognition of that something bigger that we are part of.

I'm just thinking out loud about fractals and frequencies here.

A beer sounds good too. :)

What you guys don't seem to understand is that our solar system is like a "cell" much like any other organism, and atom. It has its electrical forces of attraction and repulsion.

Once this cell comes close to another cell it creates pressure on the membrane that contains our solar system, and ultimately affects its nucleus (the sun). This will have repercussions on our planet.

the moon tonight directly above in NE florida has a rainbow aura / shadow of itself below and to the right .. i've never seen anything like it . I'm not sure if everyone can see it, i just noticed it and not sure how long it will last , do you think that it's related ?

Yes, Xenus. This is along the lines of what I have been touching on. We always think of intelligence in human ways...when intelligence can be as diverse as the universe. It may not be able to be understood (especially when sentience is so absolutely submerged in their own ego as humans) until it is experienced...

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You're thinking of Flux Tubes. Google flux tube transfers. A big one is South Atlantic Anomaly, which I read this year is growing, so strong they shut the sats down when they pass over it, they route planes around it. Also one off the west coast of Russia.
Xenus, a great thread. And I agree, we are seeing changes already in the out planets. Most recently Saturn. Sick knows me as thewatcher, from way back. It's nice to read thru a thread and not have to explain every little thing to some random poster.

I wondered how right the article was about the aborigines, survivors numbered around 10k? if I remember right.

SPIRAL ASTEROID: On Dec. 12th, the International Astronomical Union issued a telegram (CBET nr.2583) announcing the discovery of a spiral structure around main belt asteroid (596) Scheila. Steve Larson of the Catalina Sky Survey (CSS) found the curious shape in images obtained Dec. 11th through the Catalina 0.68-m Schmidt telescope. Other observers have since confirmed the phenomenon. The following picture was taken on Dec. 12th by Italian astronomers Ernesto Guido and Giovanni Sostero using a remotely-controlled 0.25m telescope in New Mexico:

What's going on? There are at least two possibilities. (1) A small asteroid might have hit 596 Scheila, raising a cloud of dust which forms a nebula around larger space rock. A 1-meter class impactor could be large enough to do the trick. (2) 596 Scheila might be a rare main belt asteroid, a body with the orbital characteristics of an asteroid and the physical characteristics of a comet. If so, a pocket of volatile ice might be vaporizing to produce the spiraling tail.

How the nebula or tail evolves in the days ahead could provide important clues. Amateur astronomers with experience in asteroid imaging are encouraged to monitor developments.
[link to spaceweather.com]

Spirals and dusty plasma, hmmm. Wonder what's going on, the asteroid is between the orbit of Mars and Jupiter. [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

[link to news.nationalgeographic.co.uk]

This quick shrinkage could be a concern for astronauts, said McComas, of the Southwest research Institute in San Antonio, Texas. That's because, as the heliosphere shrinks, it lets in more cosmic radiation, which can compromise the body's immune system.

They don't really know how cosmic rays affect DNA and biological cells. Effects range from cancer and mutation. That is why they are sending the biological samples up in a mission from NASA, outside the magnetosphere to test. It may depend on the DNA of the person to begin with, some people lived through nuke tests, some people didn't. Some people get cancer, some don't. It's really hard to say what it does.

From that article, I think this is far more important and serves to validate my conclusions about this;

But when scientists compared IBEX maps of the heliosphere taken just six months apart, the researchers found that it had shrunk to a much greater extent than expected.

[link to news.nationalgeographic.co.uk]

As a general run down on what actually will happen, according to what we know about these clouds;

Heliosphere will shrink, causing more cosmic rays to reach Earth, this will have many various effects on Earth and us. Since mainstream science does not acknowledge how cosmic rays may affect clouds and weather there is very little reliable information. Henry Svensmark is one scientist who spent many years trying to have his research and experiments published in regard to this. His work focuses mainly on cosmic rays from the sun, but also galactic cosmic rays.

Abstract

In the search for a physical mechanism that could account for reported correlations between solar activity parameters and climate, we have investigated the global cloud cover observed by satellites. We find that the observed variation of 3–4% of the global cloud cover during the recent solar cycle is strongly correlated with the cosmic ray flux. This, in turn, is inversely correlated with the solar activity. The effect is larger at higher latitudes in agreement with the shielding effect of the Earth's magnetic field on high-energy charged particles. The observed systematic variation in cloud cover will have a significant effect on the incoming solar radiation and may, therefore, provide a possible explanation of the tropospheric and stratospheric 10–12 year oscillations which have been reported. The above relation between cosmic ray flux and cloud cover should also be of importance in an explanation of the correlation between solar cycle length and global temperature, that has been found.


youtube video;


The Antarctic climate anomaly and galactic cosmic rays

It has been proposed that galactic cosmic rays may influence the Earth's climate by affecting cloud formation. If changes in cloudiness play a part in climate change, their effect changes sign in Antarctica. Satellite data from the Earth Radiation Budget Experiment (ERBE) are here used to calculate the changes in surface temperatures at all latitudes, due to small percentage changes in cloudiness. The results match the observed contrasts in temperature changes, globally and in Antarctica. Evidently clouds do not just respond passively to climate changes but take an active part in the forcing, in accordance with changes in the solar magnetic field that vary the cosmic-ray flux.
[link to arxiv.org]

Of course the media and those who know don't want people to understand how human activity plays little or no role in global climate change when compared to the real climate drivers like space weather and solar activity. After all, how can they explain to the masses about a giant, light year wide space cloud? Look around you, everyone accepts that the climate/weather is changing but no one can agree what is causing it. When you take the information about these space clouds and everything we know about them, link it to the climate change and all the various anomalies in our solar system it all makes sense. This is all scientific data and articles written using scientific observation and data.

The "knot" found by IBEX was a spiral...

[link to www.swri.org]

(If we're accelerated by the stellar energies to total enlightenment while having that beer, will it shoot out of our nose?)

Recent observations of anomalous cosmic rays are puzzling because of the unexpected presence of iron, silicon and carbon. The interstellar medium has lots of carbon, silicon and iron atoms, but electrical charging (ionization) of these elements prevents them from penetrating deeply within the solar system.

"Our team looked for a source already inside the solar system to account for the unusual anomalous cosmic rays -- and we found one in the tiny comet-like grains from the nearby Kuiper Belt," Schwadron said.

As the grains produced by collisions in the Kuiper Belt drift in toward the Sun, they are bombarded by solar wind particles, which causes sputtering and frees the carbon, silicon and iron atoms from within, the thinking goes. Those particles interact with solar radiation, transforming them into ions, or charged particles.

The solar wind then sweeps them out and accelerates them to anomalous cosmic ray energies at the edge of the solar system, where they are bounced to and fro by magnetic fields in the solar wind and in the medium beyond the solar system, Schwadron said.

"This is a big step toward solving the long-standing mystery of the origin of the anomalous component of cosmic rays," said Tom Bogdan, program director in the NSF Division of Atmospheric Sciences, which funded the research.

Cosmic rays are believed to play a role in evolution.

"Cosmic rays are a double-edged sword. They cause genetic mutation and are harmful to living organisms, but on the upside stimulate biological evolution," Schwadron said. "Cosmic rays are our only available sample of matter from the far reaches of the distant galaxy, and from other galaxies. They can tell us a lot about what's in the universe, and we can now use them to study what's in the Kuiper Belt. Their relationship to the creation or maintenance of life is also worth a closer look."
[link to www.space.com]

The most provocative theory in contemporary science—that cosmic rays are the inspirers of biological evolution—was discussed this week by Dr. Gioacchino Failla in the abstruse Journal of Applied Physics. His purpose was to inform physicists about the biological effects of some forms of radiation with which they work—notably gamma rays, X-rays and cosmic rays.

These rays are really bombardments of tiny electrical particles, which easily penetrate matter. There they dislodge electrons from atoms and molecules, making some positive, some negative in charge—i.e., ionized. Ionizing radiations damage living matter: many pioneer workers with radium were maimed and killed.

In 1927 Hermann Joseph Muller, at the University of Texas, using Drosophila (fruit flies), proved that X-rays also have profound genetic effects. Piercing the nucleus of a living cell, they can destroy or rearrange the genes which determine the inherited characteristics of all new life. But, observes Dr. Failla, "All living organisms are subjected to ionizing radiations throughout their life." Chief sources are 1) potassium, a mildly radioactive element found in all cells, 2) cosmic rays, which constantly penetrate each human being.

These natural ionizing rays, Muller theorized, may well cause the small percentage of "spontaneous" mutations (marked inheritable deviations from the ancestral norm) in all forms of life. The success of some mutations in the struggle for existence largely accounts for evolution, which has proceeded through the ages from protozoa to lizard to man seemingly in spurts rather than at a steady pace. The spurts and lags may correspond to varying intensity of cosmic ray showers.
[link to www.time.com]

Note to self, must start meditating again : )

Only theories. U have to simply admit that nowadays' "science" is nothing more than old religions. Heisenberg was not your teacher. Make your own preservation elmag. field and don't use your brain to play a wise man. Survival is the name of the Game. Save yourself and when successful, help others to manage it too. Repeating words of fools without knowing is the same case of being blind and leading other blind being. The abyss is waiting.

That makes no sense at all... Obviously you didn't even bother to check any of the information from page 1... this isn't just theories, these are based on what we observe and what actually happens. Nothing to believe here, it's all fact.

wow, op you are really trying to 'sell' this idea

why should this be taken any more seriously then all the bogus 'global warming' reports?

Global warming hasn't been called that for years, it's now called climate change if you didn't realise. Mainly because even if people can't seem to agree if the globe is warming or cooling they can all agree that the climate IS changing. There is no denying that. Weather is the effect of space weather, spend some time looking at the effects and you will understand that the things in space affect us greatly on Earth. How can anyone deny it when we are constantly getting showered with cosmic rays and radiation, from galactic sources and from the sun.

Fact is when looking at weather we only look at the lower atmosphere and the surface of the Earth, but all we are observing are the effects of something much greater in scale than we've come to accept. In the past all the great climate changes were accompanied by a massive rise in cosmic rays, and the ONLY way that can happen is if there was another source in the solar system which produces them (like a compact object, which is highly unlikely) or the heliosphere shrinks and allows more to reach Earth. We have a massive abundance of elements only found in space and produced by these cosmic clouds which generally tend to be produced by exploding stars, elements like beryllium 10, an isotope.

You sir, are just trying to throw up assanine comments...

Hop to it then...
Wilbur Smith described layered vermiculite bearing earth, layers of reeds, more verm. earth and reeds and then sand over the top...

make a nice fernery if nothing else...
Xenus...not being lazy (much)..but for us dullard's...could you "emit" a ten pointer sypnosis?

Muchos obligatos

Explosions on the sun are not localized or isolated events, they announced. Instead, solar activity is interconnected by magnetism over breathtaking distances. Solar flares, tsunamis, coronal mass ejections--they can go off all at once, hundreds of thousands of miles apart, in a dizzyingly-complex concert of mayhem.
NASA's twin STEREO spacecraft surround the sun. [STEREO home page]

"To predict eruptions we can no longer focus on the magnetic fields of isolated active regions," says Title, "we have to know the surface magnetic field of practically the entire sun."
In a paper they prepared for the Journal of Geophysical Research (JGR), Schrijver and Title broke down the Great Eruption into more than a dozen significant shock waves, flares, filament eruptions, and CMEs spanning 180 degrees of solar longitude and 28 hours of time. At first it seemed to be a cacophony of disorder until they plotted the events on a map of the sun's magnetic field.

Title describes the Eureka! moment: "We saw that all the events of substantial coronal activity were connected by a wide-ranging system of separatrices, separators, and quasi-separatrix layers." A "separatrix" is a magnetic fault zone where small changes in surrounding plasma currents can set off big electromagnetic storms.

Researchers have long suspected this kind of magnetic connection was possible. "The notion of 'sympathetic' flares goes back at least three quarters of a century," they wrote in their JGR paper. Sometimes observers would see flares going off one after another--like popcorn--but it was impossible to prove a link between them. Arguments in favor of cause and effect were statistical and often full of doubt.

"For this kind of work, SDO and STEREO are game-changers," says Lika Guhathakurta, NASA's Living with a Star Program Scientist. "Together, the three spacecraft monitor 97% of the sun, allowing researchers to see connections that they could only guess at in the past."

Further analysis may yet reveal the underlying trigger; for now, the team is still wrapping their minds around the global character of solar activity. One commentator recalled the old adage of three blind men describing an elephant--one by feeling the trunk, one by holding the tail, and another by sniffing a toenail. Studying the sun one sunspot at a time may be just as limiting.

"Not all eruptions are going to be global," notes Guhathakurta. "But the global character of solar activity can no longer be ignored."
[link to science.nasa.gov]

Same old story, we limit ourselves in what we observe, dissecting and trying to understand a system that is interconnected and part of something larger and therefore can never explain nor understand it. After a century or more of studying the sun they finally realise they cannot just look at the separate parts, but have to see the whole in order to understand what is going on... A fine example of how humans have gone about the wrong way in observing and understanding our solar environment.

Quick bump for a great thread.

UPWARD BLAST: Magnetic filaments have been erupting on the sun with uncommon frequency these past two weeks. The latest event occurred On Dec. 16th around 0800 UT when a filament lifted off the stellar surface and propelled a coronal mass ejection into space.
[link to spaceweather.com]