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SETI Astrophysicist Craig Kasnov: Three Very Large Objects Flying Towards Earth.

 
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SETI Astrophysicist Craig Kasnov: Three Very Large Objects Flying Towards Earth.
E.T. does not need to phone home anymore, someone, or something is on itís way to earth.

SETI Astrophysicist Craig Kasnov has announced the approach to the Earth of 3 very large, very fast moving objects. The length of the "flying saucers" is in the range of tens of kilometers. Landing, according to calculations of scientists, should be in mid-December 2012. Date coincides with the end of the Mayan calendar.

[link to www.examiner.com]
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Yeah...but the REAL 2012 scenario planetary line up thingy is THIS month...

Looks like THEY read the wrong calendar as well...

They will get here to "Save the day" thinking they are just in time...

Anf find a baren dead lanscape dotted with glassy craters and radioactive bones...
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And find a baren dead lanscape dotted with glassy craters and radioactive bones...
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I think they already found that at Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro in Pakistan. Our forefathers were a little more advanced than we give them credit for.
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Re: SETI Astrophysicist Craig Kasnov: Three Very Large Objects Flying Towards Earth.
Craig Kasnov was in the conversation that ultimately resulted in [email protected], but he was not the one who ran with the concept and there's no indication that he's a real astrophysicist at all. While the actual scientists got their name on the paper describing [email protected], his name was not one of the authors:
[link to setiathome.berkeley.edu]

Furthermore, the "spaceships" in question are film emulsion scratches and problems on photographic plates that were taken some 20 years ago. These images have since been used to construct stitched mosaics in secondary sources such as google sky and others. The problems only occur in single plates for a given set of coordinates, not in the other plates for the same coordinates. Each plate corresponded to a specific color of light, that's how the color images were made for google sky and others, so a problem specific to one plate shows up as a vivid colored object in google sky. A real object, even one with a vivid color, would show up in multiple plates as it will reflect some degree of light in the other colors. Only a line emission would be completely specific to one color, in which case it would be some strange mono-element nebula, not a physical object.
Here are the raw defective plate images:
#1:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
Not present at all in the red or IR images of those coordinates:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
#2:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
Again, not present at all in the red or IR images of those same coordinates:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
#3:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
And once again, it's not present at all in the red or IR images of those coordinates:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
[link to archive.stsci.edu]

Last Edited by Astromut on 12/09/2010 04:49 PM
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Craig Kasnov was in the conversation that ultimately resulted in [email protected], but he was not the one who ran with the concept and there's no indication that he's a real astrophysicist at all. While the actual scientists got their name on the paper describing [email protected], his name was not one of the authors:
[link to setiathome.berkeley.edu]

Furthermore, the "spaceships" in question are film emulsion scratches and problems on photographic plates that were taken some 20 years ago. These images have since been used to construct stitched mosaics in secondary sources such as google sky and others. The problems only occur in single plates for a given set of coordinates, not in the other plates for the same coordinates. Each plate corresponded to a specific color of light, that's how the color images were made for google sky and others, so a problem specific to one plate shows up as a vivid colored object in google sky. A real object, even one with a vivid color, would show up in multiple plates as it will reflect some degree of light in the other colors. Only a line emission would be completely specific to one color, in which case it would be some strange mono-element nebula, not a physical object.
Here are the raw defective plate images:
#1:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
Not present at all in the red or IR images of those coordinates:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
#2:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
Again, not present at all in the red or IR images of those same coordinates:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
#3:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
And once again, it's not present at all in the red or IR images of those coordinates:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
 Quoting: Astronut

Damn He's Good!
HUSSAR!
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You're so boring! Why do you have to debunk everything!?
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So Astro,Whats the beef with the Extra Solar Jovian+ Planet thats been in the headlines?
HUSSAR!
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You're so boring! Why do you have to debunk everything!?
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He's Like a Cool Ocean Breeze,In a Hot sweaty Jungle...
HUSSAR!
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So Astro,Whats the beef with the Extra Solar Jovian+ Planet thats been in the headlines?
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch

This one?
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
Basically there are two schools of thought on how gas giants are born, and neither one can fully explain this solar system at face value, which would seem to indicate there's some truth to both. Scientists are currently pursuing a hypothesis that the system's larger than usual dust disc dragged the planets in such a way that only one method of formation is needed to explain all 4 planets.

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Well if this is the Craig Kasnoff who worked for SETI and Microsoft then this could be real.

Found some biographical info at the following link.

Mentions he was the original SETI idea conceiver towards the bottom.

[link to www.ckmc.com]
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So Astro,Whats the beef with the Extra Solar Jovian+ Planet thats been in the headlines?

This one?
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
Basically there are two schools of thought on how gas giants are born, and neither one can fully explain this solar system at face value, which would seem to indicate there's some truth to both. Scientists are currently pursuing a hypothesis that the system's larger than usual dust disc dragged the planets in such a way that only one method of formation is needed to explain all 4 planets.
 Quoting: Astronut

There must be so many huge collisions in the early years of a Solar System,Could not Two Really REALLY huge Gas Giants Collide and turn into four? abit like the Earth/Moon thing but with larger masses.
HUSSAR!
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Re: SETI Astrophysicist Craig Kasnov: Three Very Large Objects Flying Towards Earth.
examiner.com = horse shit

not a real source
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examiner.com = horse shit

not a real source
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What makes a source real?
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SETI is a joke. They look billions and billions of light years away for ET's whilst ET's are flying around outside their house!

Give it up SETI.
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Well if this is the Craig Kasnoff who worked for SETI and Microsoft then this could be real.

Found some biographical info at the following link.

Mentions he was the original SETI idea conceiver towards the bottom.

[link to www.ckmc.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1166550

How does being a journalist and internet consultant translate into "astrophysicist"?
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Well if this is the Craig Kasnoff who worked for SETI and Microsoft then this could be real.
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It doesn't say he worked for SETI, it says he helped conceive the idea for [email protected] which is consistent with what I said. Funny how he never mentions being an astrophysicist anywhere in that biography.
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So Astro,Whats the beef with the Extra Solar Jovian+ Planet thats been in the headlines?

This one?
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
Basically there are two schools of thought on how gas giants are born, and neither one can fully explain this solar system at face value, which would seem to indicate there's some truth to both. Scientists are currently pursuing a hypothesis that the system's larger than usual dust disc dragged the planets in such a way that only one method of formation is needed to explain all 4 planets.

There must be so many huge collisions in the early years of a Solar System,Could not Two Really REALLY huge Gas Giants Collide and turn into four? abit like the Earth/Moon thing but with larger masses.
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch

An interesting idea, honestly I don't know.
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Craig Kasnov? SETI astrophysicist? Hmmmm.

My name is Craig Kasnoff. And I was the one who 'co-concieved' the idea for [email protected] with David Gedye.

And no, I am not an astrophysicist.

If this discussion is inferring that I, Craig Kasnoff, (and not Craig Kasnov) have made an announcement regarding 'large rapidly approaching Earth', then that is just plain false.

I have not been involved in any announcement of that kind at all.

However, if there is a 'Craig Kasnov' who is a 'SETI astrophysicist', then you will all have to take that up with him.

My current work focuses on the issue of Endangered Species ( [link to www.Bagheera.com] / [link to TigersinCrisis.com).]

The issue of endangered species was one of the driving considerations in my contribution to the concept of [email protected]

To me, [email protected] was not only a way to confirm there was possibly 'life' on other planets, but it was also a way to confirm there weren't any South China Tigers, Giant Pandas, or Komodo Dragons anywhere else but on Earth.

And it was -and still is- my belief that when an animal is forced into extinction, that animal is not just lost to Earth, but is lost to the entire Universe.

And that is tragic.

Anyway, this post may, or may not have, made any contribution to the discussions of 'objects flying towards Earth'. But I hope it clears up any question regarding my involvement this announcement.

I have no involvement in it.

Sincerly,

Craig Kasnoff
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Craig Kasnov was in the conversation that ultimately resulted in [email protected], but he was not the one who ran with the concept and there's no indication that he's a real astrophysicist at all. While the actual scientists got their name on the paper describing [email protected], his name was not one of the authors:
[link to setiathome.berkeley.edu]

Furthermore, the "spaceships" in question are film emulsion scratches and problems on photographic plates that were taken some 20 years ago. These images have since been used to construct stitched mosaics in secondary sources such as google sky and others. The problems only occur in single plates for a given set of coordinates, not in the other plates for the same coordinates. Each plate corresponded to a specific color of light, that's how the color images were made for google sky and others, so a problem specific to one plate shows up as a vivid colored object in google sky. A real object, even one with a vivid color, would show up in multiple plates as it will reflect some degree of light in the other colors. Only a line emission would be completely specific to one color, in which case it would be some strange mono-element nebula, not a physical object.
Here are the raw defective plate images:
#1:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
Not present at all in the red or IR images of those coordinates:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
#2:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
Again, not present at all in the red or IR images of those same coordinates:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
#3:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
And once again, it's not present at all in the red or IR images of those coordinates:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
[link to archive.stsci.edu]

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yep.:}
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E.T. does not need to phone home anymore, someone, or something is on itís way to earth.

SETI Astrophysicist Craig Kasnov has announced the approach to the Earth of 3 very large, very fast moving objects. The length of the "flying saucers" is in the range of tens of kilometers. Landing, according to calculations of scientists, should be in mid-December 2012. Date coincides with the end of the Mayan calendar.

[link to www.examiner.com]
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it's time to wiki-leak the rest
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AS MUCH AS I LIKE ASTRO I GOTTA GO AGAINST HIM THIS TIME


THIS IS THE THING!!

bump

ALL MY SOURCES ARE GOING CRAZY THESE ARE EXCITING TIMES YEEEHAAA
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AS MUCH AS I LIKE ASTRO I GOTTA GO AGAINST HIM THIS TIME


THIS IS THE THING!!

bump

ALL MY SOURCES ARE GOING CRAZY THESE ARE EXCITING TIMES YEEEHAAA
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GUYS THESE THINGS ARE ALMOST PLANET SIZED THEY CANNOT COME INTO ORBIT WITH US
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AS MUCH AS I LIKE ASTRO I GOTTA GO AGAINST HIM THIS TIME


THIS IS THE THING!!

bump

ALL MY SOURCES ARE GOING CRAZY THESE ARE EXCITING TIMES YEEEHAAA
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Better check your sources' reliability, since the story is utter and complete bullshit.
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AS MUCH AS I LIKE ASTRO I GOTTA GO AGAINST HIM THIS TIME


THIS IS THE THING!!

bump

ALL MY SOURCES ARE GOING CRAZY THESE ARE EXCITING TIMES YEEEHAAA



Better check your sources' reliability, since the story is utter and complete bullshit.
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I'll see if i can gather better proof, I've been pushed to the side a bit sense this is finals week
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They need to hurry the hell up,.... tired of waiting.
Theories: Misconceptions awaiting confirmation of incorrectness.
Everything is subject to continually changing variables, leaving nothing to remain as a constant.]D)one!!!!
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AS MUCH AS I LIKE ASTRO I GOTTA GO AGAINST HIM THIS TIME


THIS IS THE THING!!

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ALL MY SOURCES ARE GOING CRAZY THESE ARE EXCITING TIMES YEEEHAAA
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Yes but Astronut seems like a reasonable man.

YOU SEEM LIKE A FUCKING NUTCASE!!

Sorry, got to side with Astronut on this.
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AS MUCH AS I LIKE ASTRO I GOTTA GO AGAINST HIM THIS TIME


THIS IS THE THING!!
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Single plate film blemishes from 20 years ago are "the thing?"
ALL MY SOURCES ARE GOING CRAZY THESE ARE EXCITING TIMES YEEEHAAA
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Exactly what "sources" would they be?
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they are coming from the southern hemisphere
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AS MUCH AS I LIKE ASTRO I GOTTA GO AGAINST HIM THIS TIME


THIS IS THE THING!!

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ALL MY SOURCES ARE GOING CRAZY THESE ARE EXCITING TIMES YEEEHAAA


Yes but Astronut seems like a reasonable man.

YOU SEEM LIKE A FUCKING NUTCASE!!

Sorry, got to side with Astronut on this.
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My feelings are so hurt, a brit thinks im nuts... Come on dude your a brit...

Yeehaa is a cowboy term for excitement...

I love astro, cool guy but I've seen UFO's up close and person theres no reason for that.
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You're so boring! Why do you have to debunk everything!?
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So you believe everything you are told?





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