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If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?

 
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If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
Structures built to a Celestial Star Map

List of archaeoastronomical sites by country
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


For example;


Nabta Playa 6,500 BC An assembly of huge stone slabs found in Egypt's Sahara Desert that date from about 6,500 years to 6,000 years ago has been confirmed by scientists to be the oldest known astronomical alignment of megaliths in the world
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]


Stonehenge 3100 BC - the earliest phase of the monument.
Maya civilization 3114 BC -Radiocarbon dates from excavations.


Gungywamp 2000BC- In Groton, Connecticut has a calendar chamber.


Great Pyramid of Giza 2560BC (open for debate)


They are still building archaeoastronomicaly by the way.

See;


HOOVER DAM 1936 - President Franklin D. Roosevelt dedicated Hoover Dam The star chart was verified by the US Naval Observatory, the Smithsonian Institution.

[link to pakalahau.wordpress.com]


Georgia Gudestones 1980

The four large upright blocks pointing outward are oriented to the limits of the migration of the moon during the course of the year. An eye-level, oblique hole is drilled from the South to the North side of the center, Gnomen stone, so that the North Star is always visible, symbolizing constancy and orientation with the forces of nature. A slot is cut in the middle of the Gnomen stone to form a window which aligns with the positions of the rising sun at the Summer and Winter Solstices and at the Equinox, so that the noon sun shines to indicate noon on a curved line.


Also structures built on the winter/summer solstice line are still located there see;

[link to www.moses-egypt.net]




All the cyclic timeframes out there on or around 2012 do not fit by simple math’s to the present year.

You get 8,500 years of alignment!

Why aren’t they out of alignment?

The chance of them returning to the exact degree of orientation to my mind would be zero.



Are we being coned? Or am I missing something here?
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
Does anyone know who started this shift cult?
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
It was only a MAGNETIC POLE SHIFT.

It's not like the earth flips upside down.

..some people, man, I tell ya.

Last Edited by GeorgeGeometric on 12/12/2010 09:51 PM
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
good point, but inconvienent for conspiracists.
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
I’m an open minded sort of person so I don’t stress when I stand corrected but this question I posted has been bothering me for weeks.

This entire” earth shift” sepal getting around seems rather plagiaristic and just a lot of cut and paste.

What’s the agenda for all this?
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
not old enough despite their age

last pole shift 13,000 yrs give or take
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
not old enough despite their age

last pole shift 13,000 yrs give or take
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Doesn’t that precede the ancient accounts of the Great Flood in the Bible and the Sumerian records by at least two, if this was such an event?
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
Structures built to a Celestial Star Map

List of archaeoastronomical sites by country
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


For example;


Nabta Playa 6,500 BC An assembly of huge stone slabs found in Egypt's Sahara Desert that date from about 6,500 years to 6,000 years ago has been confirmed by scientists to be the oldest known astronomical alignment of megaliths in the world
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]


Stonehenge 3100 BC - the earliest phase of the monument.
Maya civilization 3114 BC -Radiocarbon dates from excavations.


Gungywamp 2000BC- In Groton, Connecticut has a calendar chamber.


Great Pyramid of Giza 2560BC (open for debate)


They are still building archaeoastronomicaly by the way.

See;


HOOVER DAM 1936 - President Franklin D. Roosevelt dedicated Hoover Dam The star chart was verified by the US Naval Observatory, the Smithsonian Institution.

[link to pakalahau.wordpress.com]


Georgia Gudestones 1980

The four large upright blocks pointing outward are oriented to the limits of the migration of the moon during the course of the year. An eye-level, oblique hole is drilled from the South to the North side of the center, Gnomen stone, so that the North Star is always visible, symbolizing constancy and orientation with the forces of nature. A slot is cut in the middle of the Gnomen stone to form a window which aligns with the positions of the rising sun at the Summer and Winter Solstices and at the Equinox, so that the noon sun shines to indicate noon on a curved line.


Also structures built on the winter/summer solstice line are still located there see;

[link to www.moses-egypt.net]




All the cyclic timeframes out there on or around 2012 do not fit by simple math’s to the present year.

You get 8,500 years of alignment!

Why aren’t they out of alignment?

The chance of them returning to the exact degree of orientation to my mind would be zero.



Are we being coned? Or am I missing something here?
 Quoting: What say you! 1192249

Not sure what you're saying: Is it that no still structures have been found that do not align with their celestial reference or is it that no still structures found that do still align celestially are no more than 6500 years old?
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
FAWKIN EXCELLENT!

bump hf
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
Not sure what you're saying: Is it that no still structures have been found that do not align with their celestial reference or is it that no still structures found that do still align celestially are no more than 6500 years old?
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What I think is that anyone who proposes that earths orientation has changed within 8,500 years doesn’t know what they are talking about.
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
The last pole shift was most likely 25,623 years ago, or even further back.

Many bible scholars believe, however, that there was a slight pole shift during a battle against the heathen, where Joshua asked for more daylight. However, the sun was said there to stop in its place, not change in its direction. So it refers to the planet's crust being slowed down, or an angel standing in for the sun.

I don't think the earth just stopped, I can't imagine there would be anyone left alive after such an event.
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
A very good point.It shows you can have crustal drift and polar shift and still be able to navigate by the stars using the old charts.And yes the sun IS rising in the SSE and setting DUE WEST!!!!!(these days at least!).........

Last Edited by childoflight on 12/13/2010 02:27 AM
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
It was only a MAGNETIC POLE SHIFT.

It's not like the earth flips upside down.

..some people, man, I tell ya.
 Quoting: GeorgeGeometric


There are crustal shifts also. But these are another sort of beast, they wipe everything clean. The most ancient monuments we have came much later than the last one. But there are some remains under the sea of Japan that might belong to another era.

In sum: some shifts are magnetic and some are crustal.
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
A very good point.It shows you can have crustal drift and polar shift and still be able to navigate by the stars using the old charts.And yes the sun IS rising in the SSE and setting DUE WEST!!!!!(these days at least!).........
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No, not a good point. The last crustal shift long precedes the current structures that we see on Earth.
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
In Hezekiah’s days c. 704 B.C. Going back of the shadow of the sun (2Ki 20:8-11).


In Joshua’s days c. 1398 B.C. the long day of Joshua (Josh 10:9-13).


In Peleg’s days c. 2669-2436 B.C. the earth was divided (Gen 10:25).


In Noah’s days c. 3200 B.C. the Flood of Noah (Gen 7:17-8:14).



All of these events occurred after the construction of Nabta Playa in 6,500 BC.


How could it Nabta Playa and the other sites reorientate itself after these events?



The Bible gives conflicting scripture on this.


Psalm 104:5 He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.

Or


Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble and the earth will be shaken out of its place,
at the wrath of the LORD of hosts on the day of his fierce anger.


Isaiah 2420 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
Structures built to a Celestial Star Map

List of archaeoastronomical sites by country
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


For example;


Nabta Playa 6,500 BC An assembly of huge stone slabs found in Egypt's Sahara Desert that date from about 6,500 years to 6,000 years ago has been confirmed by scientists to be the oldest known astronomical alignment of megaliths in the world
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]


Stonehenge 3100 BC - the earliest phase of the monument.
Maya civilization 3114 BC -Radiocarbon dates from excavations.


Gungywamp 2000BC- In Groton, Connecticut has a calendar chamber.


Great Pyramid of Giza 2560BC (open for debate)


They are still building archaeoastronomicaly by the way.

See;


HOOVER DAM 1936 - President Franklin D. Roosevelt dedicated Hoover Dam The star chart was verified by the US Naval Observatory, the Smithsonian Institution.

[link to pakalahau.wordpress.com]


Georgia Gudestones 1980

The four large upright blocks pointing outward are oriented to the limits of the migration of the moon during the course of the year. An eye-level, oblique hole is drilled from the South to the North side of the center, Gnomen stone, so that the North Star is always visible, symbolizing constancy and orientation with the forces of nature. A slot is cut in the middle of the Gnomen stone to form a window which aligns with the positions of the rising sun at the Summer and Winter Solstices and at the Equinox, so that the noon sun shines to indicate noon on a curved line.


Also structures built on the winter/summer solstice line are still located there see;

[link to www.moses-egypt.net]




All the cyclic timeframes out there on or around 2012 do not fit by simple math’s to the present year.

You get 8,500 years of alignment!

Why aren’t they out of alignment?

The chance of them returning to the exact degree of orientation to my mind would be zero.



Are we being coned? Or am I missing something here?
 Quoting: What say you! 1192249


It shifts every 13,000 years. lol.
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
It shifts every 13,000 years. lol.
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When was the last time?
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
not old enough despite their age

last pole shift 13,000 yrs give or take
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+1
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Re: If the earth has suffered a shift in the past why do these still structures still make their intended celestial references?
Whatever froze the woolly mammoths in Siberia seems a likely candidate for the last big Earth change.