~ WOW!! Principle Of Astrology Proven To Be Scientific: Planetary Position Imprints Biological Clocks Of Mammals...!! ~

Okay then...

What are the other forces called?

There is space (which is time that is static, non-kinetic) and there is time (which is space that is absolute kinetic)

Consciousness is another entire dimension unto its own characteristics that defy science detection other than demonstrated kinetics of a spacetime structure (a lifeform).

No, I excuse you from wanting a magical existence of unicorns and wizards to be, more then being able to describe reality, truth and facts.

If this is true then there is no free will you imbeciles. If who you are is imprinted at birth then you can't stray from your destiny can you?

I'd like someone to explain how that interaction between planetary locations and someone's birth happens. For example, the sun beams travel through the vacuum and reach earth. In which way planets interact with the birth of individual humans or animals (because you can't deny animals the opportunity to have a zodiac sign right? It all has to do with the time of birth) Don't forget that this "energy" from planets affects plants and everything else as well, supposedly. To let other people know you're speaking the truth you have to provide some evidence to back up your claims.

I'm waiting for it astrologers

I suspect that, originally, astrology was based on the actual positions of the real stars and constellations. That is why the astrological signs corresponded exactly to the positions of the real stars two thousand years ago, but, since then, some astrologers were unaware of precession and continued to chart the star-signs in the positions they were in before the constellations shifted.

See, that's where science totally loses me.

Instead of trying to find a way to incorporate consciousness into the equation because they realize it is the underlying force of everything, they discount it utterly as a superstitous fantasy and ridicule anyone who won't agree with their limited vision of the cosmos.


Never mind, think what you want, your part in learning for yourself is just part of the human process.

Perhaps if you would try to rephrase that question?

I'm no astrologer, but I can see that their are greater forces at work than we imagine.

However, you seem to want some kinda evidence ... of what exactly?

There are "forces" that can't be measured with instruments, but you can see the results sometimes.

I want to know the medium of astrology, I even gave an example??? SUN-->LIGHT THROUGH VACUUM--> LIGHT ON EARTH

What force affects us and everything else which originates from planets or interaction between planets' locations? That's what I want to know.


Seems like reading comprehension is not a skill of people who believe this stuff.

This is not evidence. Merely unfounded speculation. Shall I rephrase it better? I'm afraid I can't. I can also say that in my computer there's a team of 50 small trolls who push buttons and levers and whatnot for the pc to work. That's similar to saying astrology is true :] . And what is this ocean thing you're spouting like it's some profound theory. You must feel very proud about it but it sounds "deep" just for the sake of it.

Perfect example!

How do you know that it is not?

With that... the conversation is over and I would walk away.

I can open it and observe all the operating parts and then prove to you how they interact and produce the pixels on your screen(earlier somebody said that we dont know how that happens : /)

In astrology you can only say that metaphysical-characteristics-sentient-planet-beings send waves to your head right when it pops out of your mother's vagina. Undetectable waves that is. And the only way to observe the effect of those waves for us "primitive" monkeys is to watch the stars. How can you believe this seriously?

The point... is that you have done the sort of investigations to prove or disprove that theory based on the tools you have at hand, and if you care to, advance a better one one that theory has been disproved or found to be inadequate.

On the scale of knowledge that one can have about computers, I would say that I don't know very much about how they work, so for all practical purposes I would be ignorant to say that I know with certainty "how a computer works".

It is part of the spell of the modern age for everyone to feel as if they know a lot about something when in fact they know very little... that's a product of the lens of our conscious awareness generally either being very broad in some areas and very narrow in others, in either case you have lost perspective.

That's the way it is now... someone with a high school education at the grade average of B (when a B meant something) can say with self-confidence that he knows far more than Cornelius Agrippa about ANYTHING... and that Newton should be place on an evolutionary pedestal.

Are you calling the Emperor of Germany a fool for keeping him in his council? Or a significant minority of the great minds at the time?

Well then, Sir... it's your choice to have confidence in what you know, I would not want to take that from anyone unless I opened up the mind to a more accurate possibility.

Lol you people can't be teached anything. If you think that WHY IS IT NOT THIS WAY is enough evidence to support your claims then you are below people with a facebook account. You always shout about keeping an open mind but your critical thinking is practically zero. And that's disastrous.

Yes, exactly!





You start by unlearning what you have been told about your own limitations and the nature of the world around you... believing in God is a big part, and then the rest follows from there as is natural to you.

I guess I'm not sure what else I can say. :)

Astrology and Astronomy are both based on the
same EXACT mathmatical formulae. Computers have allowed many
more to study Astrology and now many can read thier own charts and be aware of the CYCLES interacting and giving some insight into when to make moves and choices for the best results.

In Ancient times they were ONE and the SAME Science
It was not in the interests of what we refer to as TPTB
to allow the slaves to know of the Science of Astrology
as it can lead to self understanding which is anathema
to those PTB like meditation and psilocybin type alternate state explorations are seen as dangerous to TPTB.

This is why RELIGIONS forbid mind altering substances
and INTUITIVE Sciences, and just what tool is the tyranny
using to control the masses.........
so get a chart reading, get high and exrploe your
inner self and you can see as easily as those sunglasses
in "They Live" allowed wearers to see.

Excerpt that is under the 50% rule:

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Astrology has played a major role in society since the beginning of civilization, and maybe even before that. Its influence can be seen in almost every part of the world. Astrology’s history is a long one, and common belief is that its origins lie with the Greeks. However, a closer look shows that the foundations for astrology were laid much earlier than that, and the Egyptians had much to do with this. The Egyptian influence will be discussed shortly; but first, it will be very helpful to describe the history of astrology up to the point that the Egyptians became involved.



The Sumerians, who settled in Mesopotamia around 4000 BC, mark the first example of a people who worshipped the sun, moon, and Venus. They considered these heavenly bodies gods, or the homes of gods. The moon god’s name was Nanna, the sun god was called Utu, and the god of Venus was named Inanna. These were not the only gods the Sumerians worshipped; in fact, other gods, especially those of creation, were more important in the Sumerian pantheon. The Akkandians, near Sumer, adopted the sun, moon and Venus gods, changing their names. This was common with the gods in ancient times: the gods were accepted by a society, but their names were changed, depending on who had conquered whom.


The priests of the time who communicated with the gods were the first rulers. Temple systems were created and staffs of as many as several hundred to several thousand people in various roles were "employed" to fulfill various needs of the priests. There were junior priests, counselors, musicians, potters, etc. Later, it became necessary to have military leaders and some of these became kings. These kings usually had in their company a seer, or "baru-priest." This person was an interpreter of the skies -- he would read the sky for warnings, which usually involved eclipses of the moon. It could be said that the "baru-priests" were the first actual astrologers. In order to be able to communicate with the gods, mounds were built which represented shrines. These, over time, grew to larger structures called "ziggurats." (Later, these ziggurats would be used to map the star formations and to watch the sky for omens.)


much more

[link to www.touregypt.net]


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Yes this is what I'm asking. Which tools did you use to observe the correlation between planetary location and birth. To orove to me that astrology works, show me how you reached that conclusion, that's all I've been asking from the start. Reading comprehension is vital.

Yes it is also true about this modern age but believe me I know what I don't know.

You can't equate a person 500 years ago to someone from 30 years ago the differences are abysmal.

I'm still waiting for some kind of evidence

Well, you are starting with the assumption that space is a vaccuum.

Why do you think that? Cause a textbook told you so? Every entertained the thought that so called 'empty' space is actually FULL of life?

If you could make that leap I could begin to explain further.

Millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do --JP Morgan

[link to answers.yahoo.com]

The rest of the information is contained a various systems that have enough internal consistency that all they require is enough of an open mind to give another way of viewing life a try.

Good luck!

Will you accept that the moon affects the pattern of life on earth,as this scientific study on plants proves?

[link to www.bioculturaldiversity.net]

There is a grand harmony being played out in the cosmos, everything working together in perfect sync, and anyone who cannot see this is a fool.

Your gonna die... prove me wrong

Yes I read it in a textbook where else? Is it a conspiracy because it's in a textbook? If I could I would go up there to take readings. Are you talking about quantum foam? I'm very interested to see what you know on the matter.



HOW did you reach the conclusion that these limits exist? Did you think of your sister and she called you after 3 minutes? Is this your evidence of breaking limits?

I asked the universe questions and it answered?

I had to call collect though...

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Why can't everyone here be like this person? I accept that the moon has an effect with tidal forces. After I read the article I will express my opinion on it, can't say anything before I've read it.

....mmmmm...I wonder then why the good ole Queen of England and her predecessors has always had their very own astrologer for the Royals. Must be something to it.

You must be feeling very intelligent right now. Anyway, this AC posted a scientific study of the moon's effect on vegetation. Why can't you do the same? For two pages now all you're posting are wild guesses and adjustments to reality to follow your own worldview.

Not inexperienced? Not blinded by their oppressive society? Not just merely skeptical?

They must be a fool?

That's not the point. Astrology requires that you provide your DATE OF BIRTH. But any cosmic-influenced imprint on you would not begin when you popped out of your mommy's hole, rather it would probably happen at the time you were first formed as a fetus. So any astrological advice given to you based on the date when you popped out of mommy is theoretically incorrect.

Hardly anybody knows their date of conception. But everyone knows their date of birth. Thus the astrology pitch is an easy sell - just provide the date you were born. It's all a sham.

I would argue that the astrological clock starts ticking when you take your first breath. During gestation there have been cosmic forces at work, but the actual starting point is determined what it in the sky over your location the minute you enter the physical world.