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What additive can I put into kerosene to run a diesel engine? | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1102890 United States12/16/2010 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The diesel mechanics in town today said a mix of 1 part engine oil to 75 parts kerosene will work okay. Quoting: Ossie blokeYep, you need to bump the octane rating. Diesel and home heating fuel oil are the same here in the US it's just that fuel oil doesn't have the additives nor is it taxed like diesel. Adding the right ratio of motor oil will do the job, you could even use used oil in a pinch as long as it's filtered VERY well first. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1196932  India12/16/2010 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know diesel engines don't mind 3% kerosene because that is what we call in Australia alpine diesel. I also know you can mix it in higher ratios like 50/50 but diesel engines don't like it. Quoting: Ossie blokeI use kerosene for lighting and cooking and it would be nice to be able to use it in the car sometimes if there is no diesel handy. something to do with compression ratio.You will have to change it and add your mechanic friend is correct. |
| Ossie bloke (OP) User ID: 1196916 Australia12/16/2010 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From what I've heard, diesel engines run pretty good on diesel fuel, moran!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1192565Please understand that I store fuel. Sometimes many hundreds of litres just in case there is disruption to supply. It is good to have a fuel that has many possible uses. Diesel is smoky when used in a stove like this - [link to www.optimusstoves.com] Diesel also destroys the generator with carbon deposits in pressure oil lamps like this one I use - [link to www.siamtakeang.com] |
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| Ossie bloke (OP) User ID: 1196916 Australia12/16/2010 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last time I was in the US kerosene was hard to find and cost twice as much as diesel. Not the same in OZ? Quoting: m_asteraWhy not just store diesel? If you want a mix for kerosene, I'd suggest 2-cycle oil rather than regular motor oil. As I said... diesel is only good for one thing - running the car. Kerosene on the other hand can have many uses. Imagine running out of kerosene and being left with hundreds of litres of diesel, a car, and nowhere to go because the roads are trashed by flooding, landslides and downed trees. Last Edited by Ossie bloke on 12/16/2010 04:07 AM |
| Ossie bloke (OP) User ID: 1196916 Australia12/16/2010 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last time I was in the US kerosene was hard to find and cost twice as much as diesel. Not the same in OZ? Quoting: m_asteraWhy not just store diesel? If you want a mix for kerosene, I'd suggest 2-cycle oil rather than regular motor oil. Yeah okay, I will look into using 2-cycle oil. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 812359  Netherlands12/16/2010 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 cups of flour 3/4 cup of milk. 1/2 cup of almonds, chopped. 1/2 cup of sugar. 1/2 cup of oil 3 teaspoons of baking powder. 1/2 teaspoon of almond extract. 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon. 1/4 teaspoon of nutmeg. 1/8 teaspoon of salt. |
| DanfromtheHills User ID: 945238 United States12/16/2010 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From what I've heard, diesel engines run pretty good on diesel fuel, moran!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1192565That's a rumor started by the big oil companies, they run just fine on tap water. "Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 443420  United Kingdom12/16/2010 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i ran a 2 litre french diesel car for over 5 years on kerosene without any additive or mixing with pump diesel. The lubrication talk is just an old wives tale. Kerosene is a lubricant and what exactly in a diesel fuel system do you need to lubricate, the fuel pump, injectors? Like i said i had no problems for over 5 years. |
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| Ossie bloke (OP) User ID: 1196916 Australia12/16/2010 04:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i ran a 2 litre french diesel car for over 5 years on kerosene without any additive or mixing with pump diesel. The lubrication talk is just an old wives tale. Kerosene is a lubricant and what exactly in a diesel fuel system do you need to lubricate, the fuel pump, injectors? Like i said i had no problems for over 5 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443420I do know there are diesel engines that can handle a wide variety of fuels. The worry with my engine is the possible expensive damage I have read can happen with the wrong fuel. Last Edited by Ossie bloke on 12/16/2010 04:44 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1143315  Japan12/16/2010 04:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know diesel engines don't mind 3% kerosene because that is what we call in Australia alpine diesel. I also know you can mix it in higher ratios like 50/50 but diesel engines don't like it. Quoting: Ossie blokeI use kerosene for lighting and cooking and it would be nice to be able to use it in the car sometimes if there is no diesel handy. soap flakes |
| ~Morrígan~ User ID: 1161448 United States12/16/2010 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Basically, putting Kerosene in a diesel engine is equivalent to putting ethanol in gasoline. It lowers the BTU, thus burning colder and less efficient meaning worse fuel economy. Fuel additives like Diesel Kleen with cetane booster will help significantly with lubricity, which the sulfur provided, will protect your fuel pump and injectors as well as keeping them clean. Some of fuels that can be burned in a diesel engine: Diesel #1 Diesel #2 Diesel #4 ULSD Biodiesel Kerosene Home heating oil Civil jet fuel (Jet A-1, Jet A, Jet B) Military jet fuel(JP-4,JP-5,JP-8) SVO (Straight Vegetable Oil) Hope this helps!  "So we finish 18 and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, 'Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know.' And he says, 'Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.' So I got that goin' for me, which is nice." -(Bill Murray) in Caddyshack (1980) "It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country." -Will Durant "Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that but not with all those flies and death and stuff." -Mariah Carey. "Hey, don't knock masturbation. It's sex with someone I love." -Annie Hall |
| Ossie bloke (OP) User ID: 1196916 Australia12/16/2010 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Basically, putting Kerosene in a diesel engine is equivalent to putting ethanol in gasoline. It lowers the BTU, thus burning colder and less efficient meaning worse fuel economy. Quoting: ~Morrígan~Fuel additives like Diesel Kleen with cetane booster will help significantly with lubricity, which the sulfur provided, will protect your fuel pump and injectors as well as keeping them clean. Some of fuels that can be burned in a diesel engine: Diesel #1 Diesel #2 Diesel #4 ULSD Biodiesel Kerosene Home heating oil Civil jet fuel (Jet A-1, Jet A, Jet B) Military jet fuel(JP-4,JP-5,JP-8) SVO (Straight Vegetable Oil) Hope this helps! Yeah, hey thanks. Much appreciated. Last Edited by Ossie bloke on 12/16/2010 05:39 AM |
| mavric User ID: 1064293 United States12/16/2010 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." Frederic Bastiat |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1192886 United Kingdom12/16/2010 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | KEROSENE It can be used in conjunction with cutting oil as a thread cutting and reaming lubricant. When machining aluminium and its alloys, kerosene on its own is an excellent cutting lubricant. [link to en.wikipedia.org] if kerosene is used as a cutting lubricant, i see no reason why motor oil, 2 stroke oil or any other lubricant need to be added in order to keep you engine running well. KEROSENE IS AN EXCELLENT LUBRICANT |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1192886 United Kingdom12/16/2010 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes, there is no difference between them except the gov. requires kerosene to have a red dye additive which will turn your exhaust reddish in color. a flag for the troops, it is illegal to use it in place of diesel and you will be fined to hell Quoting: mavricnonesense there is a big difference and red dyed diesel (called derv in the uk) is not kerosene |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1192886 United Kingdom12/16/2010 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO OP AS YOU CAN SEE, THE INFORMATION I HAVE POSTED (UNDER VARIOUS ID) SHOWS CLEARLY KEROSENE IS AN EXCELLENT LUBRICANT AND A DIESEL ENGINE CAN RUN ON IT FINE, THE ONLY PROBLEM BEING COLD STARTS. OP I EVEN RAN A PETROL ENGINE ON KEROSENE ONCE, NOW THAT WASNT FUN AT ALL. |
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