Book of Adam & Eve - proof ? that Adam/Eve were ETs and Garden of Eden is not on Earth

Salt, read this and pray on it, tell me if it rings in your spirit




what is this?


In Revelation 10 there is writing that was sealed up until the time of the end.

The time of the end is now and these books are being revealed from the prophet of Elijah the second witness.

He is alive and well doing the lords work. i have access to this man and his writings from the MOST HIGH

So did you pray on it, did it ring in your spirit?



all of the new testament additional writings are false. i do not subscribe to this or these methods. so sorry. it is a type of channelling... not of God, in my opinion.

demiurge... good term. if i still was a musician that would be a great name for a metal band... lol

i think scientifically, and i like clear and provable explanations for everything. for the complex this proves challenging. God is the master mathematician, scientist, pysicist, etc. I don't think there is anything magical or mystical about it. However, love is involved. How do you prove a theorem for love? My point is that we are trying to extrapolate the secrets/foundations of the universe from ancients usage/comprehension of ideas, languages, concepts....

Here is an example from another apocryphal book: In The Secrets of Enoch, there are, what i believe, are explanations for a few points of creation/big bang. Let me extrapolate:

XXIV

God relates to Enoch, how out of the very lowest darkness comes down the visible and invisible.

I COMMANDED in the very lowest parts, that visible things should come down from invisible, and Adoil came down very great, and I beheld him, and lo! he had a belly of great light.

God commands that visible (physical matter) comes from invisible. Adoil = photon? components of all matter? Photon: a necessary consequence of physical laws having a certain symmetry at every point in spacetime.

2 And I said to him: 'Become undone, Adoil, and let the visible come out of thee.'

...then comes forward the physical nature of light/matter?

3 And he came undone, and a great light came out. And I was in the midst of the great light, and as there is born light from light, there came forth a great age, and showed all creation, which I had thought to create.

Big bang....!

4 And I saw that it was good [right, proper, excellent, beneficient].

5 And I placed for myself a throne, and took my seat on it, and said to the light: 'Go thou up higher and fix thyself high above the throne, and be a foundation to the highest things.'

6 And above the light there is nothing else, and then I bent up and looked up from my throne.

Light is the highest order of things...

XXVI

God summons from the very lowest a second time that Archas, heavy and very red should come forth.

AND I summoned the very lowest a second time, and said: 'Let Archas come forth hard,' and he came forth hard from the invisible.

[Archas has a Latin root to the word relating to architecture, structure - ]

2 And Archas came forth, hard, heavy, and very red.

Red shift? This has to do with expansion of the universe. Archas - order from chaos, structure from unstructure, architecture from nothing?]

3 And I said: 'Be opened, Archas, and let there be born from thee,' and he came undone, an age came forth, very great and very dark, bearing the creation of all lower things, and I saw that it was good and said to him:

[gravitational red shifts are from electromagnetic radiation moving out of gravitational fields]

4 'Go thou down below, and make thyself firm, and be for a foundation for the lower things,' and it happened and he went down and fixed himself, and became the foundation for the lower things, and below the darkness there is nothing else.

after these chapters comes data that COULD support creation of other elements within the universe that could only exist in the process of expansion, also water, planets, suns. there is one sentence in chapter XXVII that I have not been able to translate. It reads as follows:

4 Thus I made fast the firmament. This day I called me the first-created.

Take note here that he used the word "me." Nowhere, and I mean, not in any other place, is the word "me" used. It has a little "m" and has no reference to self. There is never, ever a time when God refers to himself as "me" and especially with a small "m". I tried to do a word study on this and had a very difficult time finding the translation/meaning of this word. I think it has something to do with a term encapsulating divine physics.

If anyone can find info on this I would appreciate it.

And when these things had come to pass, then Pistis came and appeared over the matter of chaos, which had been expelled like an aborted fetus - since there was no spirit in it. For all of it (chaos) was limitless darkness and bottomless water. Now when Pistis saw what had resulted from her defect, she became disturbed. And the disturbance appeared, as a fearful product; it rushed to her in the chaos. She turned to it and blew into its face in the abyss, which is below all the heavens.

And when Pistis Sophia desired to cause the thing that had no spirit to be formed into a likeness and to rule over matter and over all her forces, there appeared for the first time a ruler, out of the waters, lion-like in appearance, androgynous, having great authority within him, and ignorant of whence he had come into being. Now when Pistis Sophia saw him moving about in the depth of the waters, she said to him, "Child, pass through to here," whose equivalent is 'yalda baoth'.

Since that day, there appeared the principle of verbal expression, which reached the gods and the angels and mankind. And what came into being as a result of verbal expression, the gods and the angels and mankind finished. Now as for the ruler Yaltabaoth, he is ignorant of the force of Pistis: he did not see her face, rather he saw in the water the likeness that spoke with him. And because of that voice, he called himself 'Yaldabaoth'. But 'Ariael' is what the perfect call him, for he was like a lion. Now when he had come to have authority over matter, Pistis Sophia withdrew up to her light.

When the ruler saw his magnitude - and it was only himself that he saw: he saw nothing else, except for water and darkness - then he supposed that it was he alone who existed. His [...] was completed by verbal expression: it appeared as a spirit moving to and fro upon the waters. And when that spirit appeared, the ruler set apart the watery substance. And what was dry was divided into another place. And from matter, he made for himself an abode, and he called it 'heaven'. And from matter, the ruler made a footstool, and he called it 'earth'.

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(These opening words and the words within the brackets/red are mine, and are my thoughts and speculations meant to be poses as a question – OP)

This book was not included in the Old Testament because it prophesied and spoke of Jesus (it was the Jewish leaders that prevented this book from being included.)

These passages will show that Adam and Eve are Extra-terrestrials who were NOT created on earth nor are they from earth. The “garden” was not on Earth and explains exactly where it really was. It will also show when Satan’s work started, how he operates and why.

These passages also show how Adam and Eve obtained physical bodies in order to survive on Earth which did not occur until after the got here.
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Chapter 1

The crystal sea, God commands Adam, expelled from Eden, to live in the Cave of Treasures.

1 On the third day, God planted the garden in the east of the earth [Note: East of the entire Earth, not in the East of the Earth], on the border of the world [galaxy?] eastward, beyond which, towards the sun-rising, one finds nothing but water [water? Could be a mistranslation]., that encompasses the whole world [galaxy?], and reaches to the borders of heaven [this is not a place on Earth].
[the definition of world: any sphere, realm, or domain, with all pertaining to it: a child's world; the world of dreams; the insect world, everything that exists; the universe; the macrocosm, any complex whole conceived as resembling the universe: the world of the microcosm, one of the three general groupings of physical nature: animal world; mineral world; vegetable world, any period, state, or sphere of existence: this world; the world to come.]

2 And to the north of the garden [the word “garden” means, a fertile place where things are grown and cultivated] there is a sea of water, clear and pure to the taste, unlike anything else; so that, through the clearness thereof, one may look into the depths of the earth [who thinks of the ocean as a place to view the depths of the Earth? This is not a description of an ocean, it is something else, which is used to see Earth from where they are].
3 And when a man washes himself in it, he becomes clean of the cleanness thereof, and white of its whiteness -- even if he were dark. [??]
4 And God created that sea of his own good pleasure, for He knew what would come of the man He would make; so that after he had left the garden, on account of his transgression, men should be born in the earth [men are born in the earth, but the first man God will create will first be in the garden then sent to earth]. Among them are righteous ones who will die, whose souls God would raise at the last day; when all of them will return to their flesh, bathe in the water of that sea, and repent of their sins [there is that word “water”, not ocean water, or river water, but special water from God].
5 But when God made Adam go out of the garden, He did not place him on the border of it northward. This was so that he and Eve would not be able to go near to the sea of water where they could wash themselves in it, be cleansed from their sins, erase the transgression they had committed, and be no longer reminded of it in the thought of their punishment [this is written in a way that suggests God knew beforehand that Adam and Eve would transgress long before they were even created].
6 As to the southern side of the garden, God did not want Adam to live there either; because, when the wind blew from the north, it would bring him, on that southern side, the delicious smell of the trees of the garden [trees must be a rough translation because it is used to mean other things, ie. the tree of life, tree of knowledge of good and evil, tree of eternal life, etc. these are not trees with leaves and roots].
7 Wherefore God did not put Adam there. This was so that he would not be able to smell the sweet smell of those trees, forget his transgression, and find consolation for what he had done by taking delight in the smell of the trees and yet not be cleansed from his transgression.
8 Again, also, because God is merciful and of great pity, and governs all things in a way that He alone knows -- He made our father Adam live in the western border of the garden, because on that side the earth is very broad.
9 And God commanded him to live there in a cave in a rock -- the Cave of Treasures below the garden.

Chapter 2

Adam and Eve faint when they leave the Garden. God sends His Word to encourage them.

1 But when our father Adam, and Eve, went out of the garden, they walked the ground on their feet, not knowing they were walking [they never experienced our gravity?].
2 And when they came to the opening of the gate of the garden [portal?], and saw the broad earth spread before them [saw earth for the first time], covered with stones large and small, and with sand, they feared and trembled, and fell on their faces, from the fear that came over them; and they were as dead [it freaked them out so much they totally collapsed/fainted].
3 Because -- whereas until this time they had been in the garden land, beautifully planted with all manner of trees -- they now saw themselves, in a strange land, which they knew not, and had never seen.
4 And because, when they were in the garden they were filled with the grace of a bright nature [they were light beings], and they had not hearts [heart-mind/same thing] turned toward earthly things.
5 Therefore God had pity on them; and when He saw them fallen before the gate of the garden, He sent His Word [Jesus is His Word] to our father, Adam and Eve, and raised them from their fallen state.

Chapter 3

Concerning the promise of the great five and a half days.

1 God said to Adam, "I have ordained on this earth days and years, and you and your descendants shall live and walk in them, until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall send the Word that created you, and against which you have transgressed, the Word that made you come out of the garden, and that raised you when you were fallen.
2 Yes, the Word that will again save you when the five and a half days are fulfilled [five and a half days is actually 5,500 years (one day is 1000 years earth-time)]."
3 But when Adam heard these words from God, and of the great five and a half days, he did not understand the meaning of them.
4 For Adam was thinking there would be only five and a half days for him until the end of the world.
5 And Adam cried, and prayed to God to explain it to him.
6 Then God in his mercy for Adam who was made after His own image and likeness, explained to him, that these were 5,000 and 500 years; and how One would then come and save him and his descendants.
7 But before that, God had made this covenant with our father, Adam, in the same terms, before he came out of the garden, when he was by the tree where Eve took of the fruit and gave it to him to eat.
8 Because, when our father Adam came out of the garden, he passed by that tree, and saw how God had changed the appearance of it into another form, and how it shriveled. [this is curious, I think it means that Adam recognized that the previous dna changed]
9 And as Adam went to it he feared, trembled and fell down; but God in His mercy lifted him up, and then made this covenant with him.
10 And again, when Adam was by the gate of the garden [portal/doorway], and saw the cherub with a sword of flashing fire in his hand, and the cherub grew angry and frowned at him, both Adam and Eve became afraid of him, and thought he meant to put them to death. So they fell on their faces, trembled with fear.
11 But he [the angel] had pity on them, and showed them mercy; and turning from them went up [note: went up] to heaven, and prayed to the Lord, and said; --
12 "Lord, You sent me to watch at the gate of the garden, with a sword of fire.
13 But when Your servants [note: the angel refers to them as servants], Adam and Eve, saw me, they fell on their faces, and were as dead. O my Lord, what shall we do to Your servants?"
14 Then God had pity on them, and showed them mercy, and sent His Angel to keep the garden.
15 And the Word of the Lord [Jesus] came to Adam and Eve, and raised them up.
16 And the Lord said to Adam, "I told you that at the end of the five and a half days, I will send my Word and save you.
17 Strengthen your heart, therefore, and stay in the Cave of Treasures, of which I have before spoken to you."
18 And when Adam heard this Word from God, he was comforted with that which God had told him. For He had told him how He would save him.

Chapter 4
Adam mourns over the changed conditions. Adam and Eve enter the Cave of Treasures.
1 But Adam and Eve cried for having come out of the garden, their first home.
2 And indeed, when Adam looked at his flesh, that was altered [no longer a light being but now forming a physical body], he cried bitterly, he and Eve, over what they had done. And they walked and went gently down into the Cave of Treasures.
3 And as they came to it, Adam cried over himself and said to Eve, "Look at this cave that is to be our prison in this world, and a place of punishment!
4 What is it compared with the garden? What is its narrowness compared with the space of the other?
5 What is this rock, by the side of those groves? What is the gloom of this cavern, compared with the light of the garden?
6 What is this overhanging ledge of rock to shelter us, compared with the mercy of the Lord that overshadowed us?
7 What is the soil of this cave compared with the garden land [note: earth soil is seen as completely different from land of the garden]? This earth, strewed with stones; and that, planted with delicious fruit trees?"
8 And Adam said to Eve, "Look at your eyes, and at mine, which before beheld angels praising in heaven; and they too, without ceasing.
9 But now we do not see as we did; our eyes have become of flesh; they cannot see like they used to see before."
10 Adam said again to Eve, "What is our body today, compared to what it was in former days, when we lived in the garden?" [their bodies are completely different from when in the garden and they were not familiar with them]
11 After this, Adam did not want to enter the cave, under the overhanging rock; nor would he ever want to enter it.
12 But he bowed to God's orders; and said to himself, "Unless I enter the cave, I shall again be a transgressor."

Chapter 5

Eve makes a noble and emotional intercession, taking the blame on herself.

1 Then Adam and Eve entered the cave, and stood praying, in their own tongue, unknown to us, but which they knew well.
2 And as they prayed, Adam raised his eyes and saw the rock and the roof of the cave that covered him overhead. This prevented him from seeing either heaven or God's creatures. So he cried and beat his chest hard, until he dropped, and was as dead [not dead but collapsed/fainted].
3 And Eve sat crying; for she believed he was dead.
4 Then she got up, spread her hands toward God, appealing to Him for mercy and pity, and said, "O God, forgive me my sin, the sin which I committed, and don't remember it against me.
5 For I alone caused Your servant to fall from the garden into this condemned land; from light into this darkness; and from the house of joy into this prison.
6 O God, look at this Your servant fallen in this manner, and bring him back to life, that he may cry and repent of his transgression which he committed through me.
7 Don't take away his soul right now; but let him live that he may stand after the measure of his repentance, and do Your will, as before his death.
8 But if You do not bring him back to life, then, O God, take away my own soul, that I be like him, and leave me not in this dungeon, one and alone; for I could not stand alone in this world, but with him only.
9 For You, O God, caused him to fall asleep, and took a bone from his side, and restored the flesh in the place of it, by Your divine power.
10 And You took me, the bone, and make me a woman, bright like him [of light nature], with heart, reason, and speech; and in flesh, like to his own; and You made me after the likeness of his looks, by Your mercy and power.
11 O Lord, I and he are one, and You, O God, are our Creator, You are He who made us both in one day.
12 Therefore, O God, give him life, that he may be with me in this strange land, while we live in it on account of our transgression.
13 But if You will not give him life, then take me, even me, like him; that we both may die the same day."
14 And Eve cried bitterly, and fell on our father Adam; from her great sorrow.

Chapter 6

God's reprimand to Adam and Eve in which he points out how and why they sinned.

1 But God looked at them; for they had killed themselves through great grief [I can’t imagine being grieved to the point of death, can you?].
2 But He decided to raise them and comfort them.
3 He, therefore, sent His Word [Jesus, again] to them; that they should stand and be raised immediately.
4 And the Lord said to Adam and Eve, "You transgressed of your own free will, until you came out of the garden in which I had placed you.
5 Of your own free will have you transgressed through your desire for divinity, greatness, and an exalted state, such as I have; [Satan transgressed in the exact same way, then convinced Adam and Eve to do the same] so that I deprived you of the bright nature in which you then were, and I made you come out of the garden to this land, rough and full of trouble.
6 If only you had not transgressed My commandment and had kept My law, and had not eaten of the fruit of the tree which I told you not to come near! And there were fruit trees in the garden better than that one.
7 But the wicked Satan did not keep his faith and had no good intent towards Me, that although I had created him [proof, Satan was a created being], he considered Me to be useless, and sought the Godhead for himself; for this I hurled him down from heaven so that he could not remain in his first estate -- it was he who made the tree appear pleasant in your eyes, until you ate of it, by believing his words.
8 Thus have you transgressed My commandment, and therefore I have brought on you all these sorrows.
9 For I am God the Creator, who, when I created My creatures, did not intend to destroy them. But after they had sorely roused My anger, I punished them with grievous plagues, until they repent.
10 But, if on the contrary, they still continue hardened in their transgression, they shall be under a curse forever."

Chapter 7

The beasts are appeased.

1 When Adam and Eve heard these words from God, they cried and sobbed yet more; but they strengthened their hearts in God, because they now felt that the Lord was to them like a father and a mother [this is interesting]; and for this very reason, they cried before Him, and sought mercy from Him.
2 Then God had pity on them, and said: "O Adam, I have made My covenant with you, and I will not turn from it; neither will I let you return to the garden, until My covenant of the great five and a half days is fulfilled."
3 Then Adam said to God, "O Lord, You created us, and made us fit to be in the garden; and before I transgressed, You made all beasts come to me, that I should name them. [the beasts are brought in front of Adam to be named… this is not a parade of already created animals, this is the pre-form of each animal that Adam creates a name for after God explains his reasons for each one]
4 Your grace was then on me; and I named every one according to Your mind; and you made them all subject to me.
5 But now, O Lord God, that I have transgressed Your commandment, all beasts will rise against me and will devour me, and Eve Your handmaid; and will cut off our life from the face of the earth.
6 I therefore beg you, O God, that since You have made us come out of the garden, and have made us be in a strange land, You will not let the beasts hurt us."
7 When the Lord heard these words from Adam, He had pity on him, and felt that he had truly said that the beasts of the field would rise and devour him and Eve, because He, the Lord, was angry with the two of them on account of their transgressions.
8 Then God commanded the beasts, and the birds, and all that moves on the earth, to come to Adam and to be familiar with him [ok, now the parade of completed animals come before Adam], and not to trouble him and Eve; nor yet any of the good and righteous among their offspring.
9 Then all the beasts paid homage to Adam, according to the commandment of God; except the serpent, against which God was angry. It did not come to Adam, with the beasts.

Chapter 8

The "Bright Nature" of man is taken away.

1 Then Adam cried and said, "O God, when we lived in the garden, and our hearts were lifted up, we saw the angels that sang praises in heaven, but now we can't see like we used to; no, when we entered the cave, all creation became hidden from us." [they are not able to see the elements of life as they did before]
2 Then God the Lord said to Adam, "When you were under subjection to Me, you had a bright nature within you, and for that reason could you see things far away. But after your transgression your bright nature was withdrawn from you; and it was not left to you to see things far away, but only near at hand; after the ability of the flesh; for it is brutish." [first they were created as a being of light which did not see with earthly eyes, now they are no longer beings of light and see the world with fleshly and thus, very limited eyes]
3 When Adam and Eve had heard these words from God, they went their way; praising and worshipping Him with a sorrowful heart.
4 And God ceased to commune with them. [God went back home]

Chapter 9

Water from the Tree of Life, Adam and Eve near drowning.

1 Then Adam and Eve came out of the Cave of Treasures, and went near to the garden gate, and there they stood to look at it, and cried for having come away from it.
2 And Adam and Eve went from before the gate of the garden to the southern side of it, and found there the water that watered the garden, from the root of the Tree of Life, and that split itself from there into four rivers over the earth.
3 Then they came and went near to that water, and looked at it; and saw that it was the water that came forth from under the root of the Tree of Life in the garden.
4 And Adam cried and wailed, and beat his chest, for being severed from the garden; and said to Eve: --
5 "Why have you brought on me, on yourself, and on our descendants, so many of these plagues and punishments?"
6 And Eve said to him, "What is it you have seen that has caused you to cry and to speak to me in this manner?"
7 And he said to Eve, "Do you not see this water that was with us in the garden, that watered the trees of the garden, and flowed out from there?
8 And we, when we were in the garden, did not care about it; but since we came to this strange land, we love it, and turn it to use for our body."
9 But when Eve heard these words from him, she cried; and from the soreness of their crying, they fell into that water; and would have put an end to themselves in it, so as never again to return and behold the creation; for when they looked at the work of creation, they felt they must put an end to themselves [earth did not look appealing to them at all, it looked barren and lacking any good life and were willing to die instead of being here].

Chapter 10

Their bodies need water after they leave the garden.

1 Then God, merciful and gracious, looked at them thus lying in the water, and close to death, and sent an angel [God sends an angel this time, not Jesus], who brought them out of the water, and laid them on the seashore as dead. [ok, this water is not an ocean. They go looking for it for water to drink]
2 Then the angel went up to God, was welcome, and said, "O God, Your creatures have breathed their last."
3 Then God sent His Word to Adam and Eve, who raised them from their death. [Jesus comes to bring them back to life, important distinction]
4 And Adam said, after he was raised, "O God, while we were in the garden we did not require, or care for this water; but since we came to this land we cannot do without it."
5 Then God said to Adam, "While you were under My command and were a bright angel [note: Adam and Eve WERE angels/beings made of light], you knew not this water.
6 But now that you have transgressed My commandment, you can not do without water, wherein to wash your body and make it grow; for it is now like that of beasts, and is in want of water."
7 When Adam and Eve heard these words from God, they cried a bitter cry; and Adam entreated God to let him return into the garden, and look at it a second time.
8 But God said to Adam, "I have made you a promise; when that promise is fulfilled, I will bring you back into the garden, you and your righteous descendants." [woohoo!]
9 And God ceased to commune with Adam. [God went back home]

the supression of these books has more to do with the prophecy of Jesus and His role from the beginning than any thing else. There were leaders in that time that were a governing power and did not want this information made public.

good thread......there are loads of assumptions in the mix here. basically the author of this thread believes the Bible in a fairly typical way, And Not very literally.

translation by its very nature allows any author to pretty much spin in his own personal and cultural bias. Close your eyes and think of Adam and Eve..... what images do you see?


You see a young white man and a young white women nude standing in a lush greene area near a tree. The image you see was drawn during medieval time.....by a artist with a name like Cosimo Rosseli. Think about it...those are just some of our cultural assumptions.

The distant past is like an undiscovered country. Like wet clay waiting for the story makers and the educators and the teachers and the politicians and empire builders.

good thread......there are loads of assumptions in the mix here. basically the author of this thread believes the Bible in a fairly typical way, And Not very literally.

translation by its very nature allows any author to pretty much spin in his own personal and cultural bias. Close your eyes and think of Adam and Eve..... what images do you see?


You see a young white man and a young white women nude standing in a lush greene area near a tree. The image you see was drawn during medieval time.....by a artist with a name like Cosimo Rosseli. Think about it...those are just some of our cultural assumptions.

The distant past is like an undiscovered country. Like wet clay waiting for the story makers and the educators and the teachers and the politicians and empire builders.