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Christians and an openly gay military.
For Christians,

Will you in good conscience still recit the pledge of allegiance to this country knowing this country openly defies one of YHWH's standards?

Leviticus 18:22
And you must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable thing.

1 Corinthians 6:9
What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit Godís kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men....


I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

What say you?
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Or, will you continue to serve and/or still enlist knowing the military openly defies YHWH's standards.
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Re: Christians and an openly gay military.
For Christians,

Will you in good conscience still recit the pledge of allegiance to this country knowing this country openly defies one of YHWH's standards?

Leviticus 18:22
And you must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable thing.

1 Corinthians 6:9
What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit Godís kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men....


I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

What say you?
 Quoting: SLAYER!!

No opinions?
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bump
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guess its played out dude. Everyone knows that hardcore christians are self loathing homosexuals anyway.
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guess its played out dude. Everyone knows that hardcore christians are self loathing homosexuals anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 835530

That's your opinion. I'm not a self-loathing christian.
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guess its played out dude. Everyone knows that hardcore christians are self loathing homosexuals anyway.

That's your opinion. I'm not a self-loathing christian.
 Quoting: SLAYER!!


i know...you're a self loathing homosexual.

The Bible holds no authority in the sane. Only really fucked up people use it to back their opinions.

Oh, but Hitler said its ok to hate gays too...so have at it.
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Exodus 35

3 Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.Ē

Deuteronomy 6
6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.


If you don't follow these commandments, then why on Earth would you care about some other commandment in Leviticus?
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i can't tell if you're trolling or not.

i guess my question to you would be...why would anyone who follows lord christ serve in any armed force?

how is killing people and breaking things serving god?
as the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation." -Herbert Spencer
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guess its played out dude. Everyone knows that hardcore christians are self loathing homosexuals anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 835530

Part of the homosexual mythology - everyone is at least secretly gay.
Bullshit. Intellectual integrity is not their fort
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guess its played out dude. Everyone knows that hardcore christians are self loathing homosexuals anyway.

Part of the homosexual mythology - everyone is at least secretly gay.
Bullshit. Intellectual integrity is not their fort
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 814465


i know, only people that hate gay people are gay.

A projection of unconscious guilt, pretty simple psycology.
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Notices "Watch out when tying shoe-laces" would be helpful.
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bump
"I find your lack of faith disturbing."
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guess its played out dude. Everyone knows that hardcore christians are self loathing homosexuals anyway.

That's your opinion. I'm not a self-loathing christian.


i know...you're a self loathing homosexual.

The Bible holds no authority in the sane. Only really fucked up people use it to back their opinions.

Oh, but Hitler said its ok to hate gays too...so have at it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 835530

You're wrong again. If people just lived by "love your neighbor as yourself" this world would be a better place. This is one of the main themes throughout the Bible.
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Exodus 35

3 Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.Ē

Deuteronomy 6
6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.


If you don't follow these commandments, then why on Earth would you care about some other commandment in Leviticus?
 Quoting: ZTE

I am not a Hebrew under the Old Covenant.
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Thou shalt not kill is also in the bible?
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i can't tell if you're trolling or not.

i guess my question to you would be...why would anyone who follows lord christ serve in any armed force?

how is killing people and breaking things serving god?
 Quoting: macmac

I never said they were. I was addressing my questions to people who say they are christian. It seems there are many who support this nation's military.
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I am not a Hebrew under the Old Covenant.
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Then why on Earth do you care about gay people?

If none of the laws matter anymore, then just let them be. They aren't breaking any of the New Covenant laws, because according to most, there aren't any.
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guess its played out dude. Everyone knows that hardcore christians are self loathing homosexuals anyway.

That's your opinion. I'm not a self-loathing christian.


i know...you're a self loathing homosexual.

The Bible holds no authority in the sane. Only really fucked up people use it to back their opinions.

Oh, but Hitler said its ok to hate gays too...so have at it.

You're wrong again. If people just lived by "love your neighbor as yourself" this world would be a better place. This is one of the main themes throughout the Bible.
 Quoting: SLAYER!!


ok, so the Bible momentarily stumbles upon the truth here and there, but for the most part, it is a recipe for hate, genocide, and GUILT. The YHVH of the Bible is the Lord of Hosts (Satan), and not the God of love.
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Re: Christians and an openly gay military.
For Christians,

Will you in good conscience still recit the pledge of allegiance to this country knowing this country openly defies one of YHWH's standards?

Leviticus 18:22
And you must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable thing.

1 Corinthians 6:9
What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit Godís kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men....


I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

What say you?

newfag
 Quoting: DrPostman

The Westboro Baptists people are not a christian group. They only do those things to bring on lawsuits.
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I am not a Hebrew under the Old Covenant.



Then why on Earth do you care about gay people?

If none of the laws matter anymore, then just let them be. They aren't breaking any of the New Covenant laws, because according to most, there aren't any.
 Quoting: ZTE

I don't care about gay people. Go back and read my OP. I am worried about people who claim the title, "Christian"

1 Corinthians 6:9?
What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit Godís kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men,
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guess its played out dude. Everyone knows that hardcore christians are self loathing homosexuals anyway.

That's your opinion. I'm not a self-loathing christian.


i know...you're a self loathing homosexual.

The Bible holds no authority in the sane. Only really fucked up people use it to back their opinions.

Oh, but Hitler said its ok to hate gays too...so have at it.

You're wrong again. If people just lived by "love your neighbor as yourself" this world would be a better place. This is one of the main themes throughout the Bible.


ok, so the Bible momentarily stumbles upon the truth here and there, but for the most part, it is a recipe for hate, genocide, and GUILT. The YHVH of the Bible is the Lord of Hosts (Satan), and not the God of love.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 835530

I can see you do not understand the Bible. That's OK. I can help.
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Hey OP, you could just go back to using the same pledge that
our "Greatest Generation" grew up with and went through WW2
with:
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it
stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for
all."

It wasn't until the 1950s that God was put into the pledge.

Oh, and BTW, it was a SOCIALISTahhhMINISTER who wrote it!
[link to www.ushistory.org]
 Quoting: DrPostman

Frankly, I could care less. I don't say the pledge.
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Real Christians do not say the pledge of allegiance.

They pledge allegiance to GOD AND ONLY GOD.
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The Westboro Baptists people are not a christian group. They only do those things to bring on lawsuits.

Newfag troll posts just like them.


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 Quoting: DrPostman

Now, who's trolling. I asked sincere questions. You probably do not know anything about the Bible anyway.
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Real Christians do not say the pledge of allegiance.

They pledge allegiance to GOD AND ONLY GOD.
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I'll second that.
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Thou shalt not kill is also in the bible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1201348


.
... ah ... that is MURDER ... not kill ...
.
... learn your Hebrew ...
.
... BIG difference between murder and kill ...
.
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OP, most Christians also believe that sex outside of marriage is a sin. Should fornicators also be banned from the military? There wouldn't be much of a military if all the people sinning, according to Christian beliefs, were banned.
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.
... ah ... that is MURDER ... not kill ...
.
... learn your Hebrew ...
.
... BIG difference between murder and kill ...
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1184138



ratsach
to dash in pieces, i.e. kill (a human being).

Hebrew is better translated as kill.


Learn your Hebrew.
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There's a bible story, Sodom & Gommorah. What happened
there implies certain things about morality. It should be noted however that politics trumps morality and religous beliefs. The military is now asked to sanction or accept
tenets that the bible strickly forbids.
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OP, most Christians also believe that sex outside of marriage is a sin. Should fornicators also be banned from the military? There wouldn't be much of a military if all the people sinning, according to Christian beliefs, were banned.

Well, the UCMJ Article 134 makes Adultery a banned practice.
[link to usmilitary.about.com]
 Quoting: DrPostman

Should all the people who have had premarital sex be banned from the military? How about the people who lie, cheat and steal? Those are sins according to the bible. Why is OP only concerned about homosexuality?





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