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True story


Nice one!

I don't know if he's "gone dark", but he used to regularly update his site, and hasn't done so for a few months.

He's an old guy now, though, and has an invalid wife to care for.

Bearden uses facts to back up his thesis re ZPE. Such as, Nobel Prizes have been awarded to physicists who clearly demonstrated such realities as "broken symmetry", the "Dirac Sea" etc.

He and his team worked for years on the "MEG" (Motionless Electromagnetic Generator) which harnesses the vast current flows from ZPE.

Maybe they got it working reliably. Who knows?

He was apparently attacked more than once, physically, to make him go away, or just clam up.



Far out man. "We" need more people like yourself and others to be really into these things. I don't know how old you are, but the younger generations need to be aware of this stuff.

When we can get to a point as a race on earth that we have an almost "zero point use of energy from the earth", I think we'll be okay.

I gotta feeling the whole "Heaven on Earth" thing is related to it.

For Chists' sake, we better get there soon.

I hope I'm still alive to see it tho.
 Quoting: Native-Alien


I'm a shade over mid-50s.

I can see problems with unlimited "Free Energy" devices being made available to all and sundry, though.

What if every person could go "off-grid", and generate as much electrical/thermal power as they wanted, to do pretty much whatever they wanted?

Think about it.

damned

I reckon we really would have some serious global warming, and in pretty short order. With rapidly melting ice and rising seas etc.

Not to mention what would happen to the weather around the globe.

It's a real problem, when you think it through.
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die from weather exposure!! funny as FUCK HAHAHHAHAHA!!
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True story


Nice one!

I don't know if he's "gone dark", but he used to regularly update his site, and hasn't done so for a few months.

He's an old guy now, though, and has an invalid wife to care for.

Bearden uses facts to back up his thesis re ZPE. Such as, Nobel Prizes have been awarded to physicists who clearly demonstrated such realities as "broken symmetry", the "Dirac Sea" etc.

He and his team worked for years on the "MEG" (Motionless Electromagnetic Generator) which harnesses the vast current flows from ZPE.

Maybe they got it working reliably. Who knows?

He was apparently attacked more than once, physically, to make him go away, or just clam up.



Far out man. "We" need more people like yourself and others to be really into these things. I don't know how old you are, but the younger generations need to be aware of this stuff.

When we can get to a point as a race on earth that we have an almost "zero point use of energy from the earth", I think we'll be okay.

I gotta feeling the whole "Heaven on Earth" thing is related to it.

For Chists' sake, we better get there soon.

I hope I'm still alive to see it tho.


I'm a shade over mid-50s.

I can see problems with unlimited "Free Energy" devices being made available to all and sundry, though.

What if every person could go "off-grid", and generate as much electrical/thermal power as they wanted, to do pretty much whatever they wanted?

Think about it.

damned

I reckon we really would have some serious global warming, and in pretty short order. With rapidly melting ice and rising seas etc.

Not to mention what would happen to the weather around the globe.

It's a real problem, when you think it through.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1206048

There are no hydrocarbons in the technology I'm discussing. Did you know that if you released all the R22 from every condensing unit on the earth that it would be equivalence to one day of volcanic eruptions. It's true. Don't believe anything until you do the research for yourself.
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die from weather exposure!! funny as FUCK HAHAHHAHAHA!!
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What's so funny about that? can you live in below freezing temperatures with no heat. NO would be the answer. Water doesn't flow through frozen pipes my love:)
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What if every person could go "off-grid", and generate as much electrical/thermal power as they wanted, to do pretty much whatever they wanted?

Think about it.

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That's the point I believe. We are ALL obviously supposed to live that way. Even any PTB

That way of life is not really compatible with much of our current way of thinking and life styles, and surely is not in line with how most or all of "our" governments are setup.

So, it would NOT totally surprise me if a really BAD cataclysm happened to just wipe most of us out and we start all over AGAIN.

Thing is, I don't think that's gonna happen. Doom may and probably will happen, it often does, but REAL doom on a global event level.... I'm not sure about...

I have a feeling that this time around we humans are gonna get it right finally without a near 99% wipeout.
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I power my homes with solar, and geothermal is awesome...but the rest of what you are talking about is mysterious...what elements? How does it work, even in theory?
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It works like this. You tell the power company that since your now have a free energy device you won't be needing them anymore. Then you sell them a black box full of weasle shit in return for life time free electricity.
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True story


Nice one!

I don't know if he's "gone dark", but he used to regularly update his site, and hasn't done so for a few months.

He's an old guy now, though, and has an invalid wife to care for.

Bearden uses facts to back up his thesis re ZPE. Such as, Nobel Prizes have been awarded to physicists who clearly demonstrated such realities as "broken symmetry", the "Dirac Sea" etc.

He and his team worked for years on the "MEG" (Motionless Electromagnetic Generator) which harnesses the vast current flows from ZPE.

Maybe they got it working reliably. Who knows?

He was apparently attacked more than once, physically, to make him go away, or just clam up.



Far out man. "We" need more people like yourself and others to be really into these things. I don't know how old you are, but the younger generations need to be aware of this stuff.

When we can get to a point as a race on earth that we have an almost "zero point use of energy from the earth", I think we'll be okay.

I gotta feeling the whole "Heaven on Earth" thing is related to it.

For Chists' sake, we better get there soon.

I hope I'm still alive to see it tho.


I'm a shade over mid-50s.

I can see problems with unlimited "Free Energy" devices being made available to all and sundry, though.

What if every person could go "off-grid", and generate as much electrical/thermal power as they wanted, to do pretty much whatever they wanted?

Think about it.

damned

I reckon we really would have some serious global warming, and in pretty short order. With rapidly melting ice and rising seas etc.

Not to mention what would happen to the weather around the globe.

It's a real problem, when you think it through.

There are no hydrocarbons in the technology I'm discussing. Did you know that if you released all the R22 from every condensing unit on the earth that it would be equivalence to one day of volcanic eruptions. It's true. Don't believe anything until you do the research for yourself.
 Quoting: jessica42


I'm not concerned with hydrocarbons.

What if someone with a "Free Energy" device decided, for whatever mad reason, that he/she wanted to melt the Himalayan glaciers?

See where I'm going with this?

Free Energy devices mean literally UNLIMITED channeling of electrical, hence thermal, power to be directed to whatever task the user decides is needed.

Did you miss the first page on Bearden's site where he has a picture of a coffee cup, and the caption attached to it?
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I'm a shade over mid-50s.

I can see problems with unlimited "Free Energy" devices being made available to all and sundry, though.

What if every person could go "off-grid", and generate as much electrical/thermal power as they wanted, to do pretty much whatever they wanted?

Think about it.

damned

I reckon we really would have some serious global warming, and in pretty short order. With rapidly melting ice and rising seas etc.

Not to mention what would happen to the weather around the globe.

It's a real problem, when you think it through.
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yoda

I've thought about it.


And I think you are full of shit.
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Sorry Jessica. Hope your thread wasn't derailed too much. Interesting how things do have a way of changing tho, and rather quickly.
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yoda

I've thought about it.


And I think you are full of shit.
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ahhh
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We makea good process sir for energy.
5 cuppa bean, refried en some tequila.

Den we mix up after a bit of gas out of body.
methane for your California holywood lowriders

asta




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I'm a shade over mid-50s.

I can see problems with unlimited "Free Energy" devices being made available to all and sundry, though.

What if every person could go "off-grid", and generate as much electrical/thermal power as they wanted, to do pretty much whatever they wanted?

Think about it.

damned

I reckon we really would have some serious global warming, and in pretty short order. With rapidly melting ice and rising seas etc.

Not to mention what would happen to the weather around the globe.

It's a real problem, when you think it through.


yoda

I've thought about it.


And I think you are full of shit.
 Quoting: Yohohohoda 1145117


Well nuanced argument there, Space-Dwarf!

lol
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I'm not concerned with hydrocarbons.

What if someone with a "Free Energy" device decided, for whatever mad reason, that he/she wanted to melt the Himalayan glaciers?

See where I'm going with this?

Free Energy devices mean literally UNLIMITED channeling of electrical, hence thermal, power to be directed to whatever task the user decides is needed.

Did you miss the first page on Bearden's site where he has a picture of a coffee cup, and the caption attached to it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1206048


We all fear Lex Luthor.....and sometimes Bat Man too.

But the fear of lower energy bills is, ah, quite un-natural.
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I'm not concerned with hydrocarbons.

What if someone with a "Free Energy" device decided, for whatever mad reason, that he/she wanted to melt the Himalayan glaciers?

See where I'm going with this?

Free Energy devices mean literally UNLIMITED channeling of electrical, hence thermal, power to be directed to whatever task the user decides is needed.

Did you miss the first page on Bearden's site where he has a picture of a coffee cup, and the caption attached to it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1206048

Do you think something as large as melting a glacier would go unnoticed? really?
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Sorry Jessica. Hope your thread wasn't derailed too much. Interesting how things do have a way of changing tho, and rather quickly.
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If your not in front of the change then you are last hf
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See, the problem is guys like Clayton that want to sell it and be rich... Instead of share it so everyone in the world can generate their own power.

I have been working on a device such as this for a while now, and believe I am quite close. I am about $300 away from finish, which might as well be half a world away at the moment, with no cash to spend on it.

so let me state a few facts...

first off, free energy doesn't violate the laws of physics. That is just a myth people are taught in school so they do not pursue the particular field. There are many ways to get energy from nothing that do not violate physics. Solar, Wind, hydro electric. They are all free... so right there, their argument is toast.

I have been working on permanent magnet generators. Which, to the laymen, like captain physics there seems physically impossible since you get something for nothing. But, to the educated, we know that magnets loose their magnetic field, so it does cost something to create. Its just very little. A good permanent magnet will die in 400 years. After 400 years, they will need to be replaced. They do not count that, so they call it free.

Tesla had a number of methods for producing free energy, and he was bankrupted because of it. Greed is the constant motivator in this world.

The reason we do not see free energy devices commercially available today is beause it would destroy the power / political structure we live in. A byproduct of free energy is gravitational effects, and vice versa. IF you build a simple free energy generator with rotating parts, a very small modification to it will make it float / fly. Take a look at the world of John Searl for an example of this.

So as soon as free energy goes mainstream, you destroy the oil / power companies. We can run our cars on electric, and can now travel anywhere for free, so no more gas. Gas is basically a tax to travel. They like it that way, it suits them. Take a quick glance at The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. It was originally written in the 1700s. Many people claim it to be a farce, or some type of hoax, yet each of the rules eerily describe a method of control in use today. It reads like it was written a few years ago, not 300...

Once you can travel for free, the airlines go down. No more paying Fuck-X, UPS, or USBS $32 to send a letter overnight 1 town over. We can now move food and materials at breakneck speeds from 1 location to the other, eliminating their ability to generate billions in tolls, traffic fines and all the other crap control they instill upon the people for "Their own sake, and that of safety."

For that matter, once you can travel for free, we could all hover 3 miles off the coast and never pay property taxes again. SO all land, other than farm and coastal properties, becomes devalued. This is the greatest threat of all... For example, I use to live in a condo on the ocean. It was 1 condo, out of 250 on 5 acres of land. The Property taxes were 10k/year per condo. Thats 2.5 million/year in property taxes. We then decided to move to a rural area, and i bought a 2 acre ranch home in the suburbs. We now pay 7k/year for 2 acres, or 17.5k/year for 5 acres. That's a net loss of over 2.4 million dollars a year to the government. It is in the Governments best interest to pack people in as tightly as possible, because they make more money per sq. foot that way. If we could all travel for free and very high speeds, I could live in Hawaii, and work in New York every morning if it only took me a few mins to get there. Recorded speeds for free energy / saucer craft is between 10,000 and 40,000 mph. It would take me maybe 5 mins to get to NY from Hawaii to go to work. So it would destroy the people's need to work where the city is. For that matter, we could all float in the sky like the Jetsons, and use most of the land for farm land, killing the world economies while feeding the entire population.

There are usually 2 ways to do something, a positive way, and a negative way, a constructive way and a destructive way. A natural way, and an un-natural way. an Explosion is a negative destructive way, while implosion is a positive or constructive force. it is very easy to exit the earth's atmosphere in a positive constructive way. It is quite another to blast our way through riding a controlled explosion. They, the dickheads in charge, want us to think the only way to do it is a negative way, because it allows them to siphon off billions of dollars right in front of us. Meanwhile, they can come and go with technology that has existed at least since the 1950s, Look up Otis Carr, who was the Bell Boy in the Hotel New Yorker where Tesla spent the end of his life, and whom Tesla took under his wing and gifted the infamous Blue Notebook. In 1959 Carr had billboards up and was going to sell kits allowing anyone to build their own saucer craft for $259 USD. The feds shut him down, tried to make a case against him, but nobody would press charges. It was a giant smear campaign which people still quote today. Yet every once of his investors rode in a 45 foot craft he built. His Co-Pilot was a guy named Ralph Ring who has given many lectures on the subject as well, and is still alive today speaking at conferences.

Tesla had the technology in the early 1900s. He made statements that if you ever saw him flying in 1 of his craft you wouldn't recognize it, and it would look like a box. He even disseminated plans for an electrical apparatus that would generate its own gravitational force capable of lifting x amount of weight depending on the weight of the rotating components. So while they may be able to smear Carr, who was Tesla's Protege, conveniently left out by his attackers, nobody can say Tesla was full of shit.

There is a decent amount of evidence that says the Nazis had saucer craft as well. They enlisted the aid, all be it at gunpoint, of Viktor Schauberger. His designs and patents were stolen by a Texas company in the mid 1950s also, and he died destitute. His son pursued a lawsuit for years but ultimately lost not being able to mount a decent attack against big oil's massive slew of scumbag lawyers.

So while the day is coming that this technology does come out, it is not here yet.

The way it will have to be done, is it will have to be given away for free. Say in Simple to follow plan forms. Flood the internet, give out a parts list with multiple vendors, and supply none of the parts yourself so nobody can claim you are a crook, joke, or con artist. You will win a Nobel prize, but you will not be able to sell it.

And for small minded idiots like clayton, the real way to do it, if you weren't such a self centered money hungry prick, would be flood the internet and public with the new technology so nobody could stop it, ensuring your own safety at the same time. They won't kill you when yer in the public light like that. Then you spend pennies on the dollar shorting the energy stocks, and can make billions over night in the options market. Just short the shit out of them. But puts 6 months out for $20 to $30 lower than the market, and you can pick up a thousand options for pennies. If you spent a few grand on options like that when you put out the free energy device, you would be a millionaire, possibly billionaire overnight.

Like I said, I am very close to doing this myself, and have thought quite a bit about not getting killed, and how to profit from it. This is the way to do it. The only way they will shut you down is if you try to start a company to sell them, and don't get the info out fast enough. They will come down on you like an Arab with a box Cutter ;)

Hope this helps and puts your mind at ease...
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Save yourself the trouble, Bearden is a gate keeper. To confuse the mass, for over three decades, he and his buddy Bedini has turned FE research into a cult.

I have q working free energy machine, Newman motor with 4 miles of conductors and 200 lbs magnets.
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I can't go back and correct my own mistakes, so had to post again.. sorry for the double post.

In reference to Living in Hawaii and working in New York, I said it would destroy the people's need to work where the city is. I meant to say live where the city is. They could live anywhere, and still work in the city, eliminating the need to be packed in where the jobs were.

In Reference to Otis Carr's Investors, every ONE of them, not Once, rode in his 45 foot craft...
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See, the problem is guys like Clayton that want to sell it and be rich... Instead of share it so everyone in the world can generate their own power.

I have been working on a device such as this for a while now, and believe I am quite close. I am about $300 away from finish, which might as well be half a world away at the moment, with no cash to spend on it.

so let me state a few facts...

first off, free energy doesn't violate the laws of physics. That is just a myth people are taught in school so they do not pursue the particular field. There are many ways to get energy from nothing that do not violate physics. Solar, Wind, hydro electric. They are all free... so right there, their argument is toast.

I have been working on permanent magnet generators. Which, to the laymen, like captain physics there seems physically impossible since you get something for nothing. But, to the educated, we know that magnets loose their magnetic field, so it does cost something to create. Its just very little. A good permanent magnet will die in 400 years. After 400 years, they will need to be replaced. They do not count that, so they call it free.

Tesla had a number of methods for producing free energy, and he was bankrupted because of it. Greed is the constant motivator in this world.

The reason we do not see free energy devices commercially available today is beause it would destroy the power / political structure we live in. A byproduct of free energy is gravitational effects, and vice versa. IF you build a simple free energy generator with rotating parts, a very small modification to it will make it float / fly. Take a look at the world of John Searl for an example of this.

So as soon as free energy goes mainstream, you destroy the oil / power companies. We can run our cars on electric, and can now travel anywhere for free, so no more gas. Gas is basically a tax to travel. They like it that way, it suits them. Take a quick glance at The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. It was originally written in the 1700s. Many people claim it to be a farce, or some type of hoax, yet each of the rules eerily describe a method of control in use today. It reads like it was written a few years ago, not 300...

Once you can travel for free, the airlines go down. No more paying Fuck-X, UPS, or USBS $32 to send a letter overnight 1 town over. We can now move food and materials at breakneck speeds from 1 location to the other, eliminating their ability to generate billions in tolls, traffic fines and all the other crap control they instill upon the people for "Their own sake, and that of safety."

For that matter, once you can travel for free, we could all hover 3 miles off the coast and never pay property taxes again. SO all land, other than farm and coastal properties, becomes devalued. This is the greatest threat of all... For example, I use to live in a condo on the ocean. It was 1 condo, out of 250 on 5 acres of land. The Property taxes were 10k/year per condo. Thats 2.5 million/year in property taxes. We then decided to move to a rural area, and i bought a 2 acre ranch home in the suburbs. We now pay 7k/year for 2 acres, or 17.5k/year for 5 acres. That's a net loss of over 2.4 million dollars a year to the government. It is in the Governments best interest to pack people in as tightly as possible, because they make more money per sq. foot that way. If we could all travel for free and very high speeds, I could live in Hawaii, and work in New York every morning if it only took me a few mins to get there. Recorded speeds for free energy / saucer craft is between 10,000 and 40,000 mph. It would take me maybe 5 mins to get to NY from Hawaii to go to work. So it would destroy the people's need to work where the city is. For that matter, we could all float in the sky like the Jetsons, and use most of the land for farm land, killing the world economies while feeding the entire population.

There are usually 2 ways to do something, a positive way, and a negative way, a constructive way and a destructive way. A natural way, and an un-natural way. an Explosion is a negative destructive way, while implosion is a positive or constructive force. it is very easy to exit the earth's atmosphere in a positive constructive way. It is quite another to blast our way through riding a controlled explosion. They, the dickheads in charge, want us to think the only way to do it is a negative way, because it allows them to siphon off billions of dollars right in front of us. Meanwhile, they can come and go with technology that has existed at least since the 1950s, Look up Otis Carr, who was the Bell Boy in the Hotel New Yorker where Tesla spent the end of his life, and whom Tesla took under his wing and gifted the infamous Blue Notebook. In 1959 Carr had billboards up and was going to sell kits allowing anyone to build their own saucer craft for $259 USD. The feds shut him down, tried to make a case against him, but nobody would press charges. It was a giant smear campaign which people still quote today. Yet every once of his investors rode in a 45 foot craft he built. His Co-Pilot was a guy named Ralph Ring who has given many lectures on the subject as well, and is still alive today speaking at conferences.

Tesla had the technology in the early 1900s. He made statements that if you ever saw him flying in 1 of his craft you wouldn't recognize it, and it would look like a box. He even disseminated plans for an electrical apparatus that would generate its own gravitational force capable of lifting x amount of weight depending on the weight of the rotating components. So while they may be able to smear Carr, who was Tesla's Protege, conveniently left out by his attackers, nobody can say Tesla was full of shit.

There is a decent amount of evidence that says the Nazis had saucer craft as well. They enlisted the aid, all be it at gunpoint, of Viktor Schauberger. His designs and patents were stolen by a Texas company in the mid 1950s also, and he died destitute. His son pursued a lawsuit for years but ultimately lost not being able to mount a decent attack against big oil's massive slew of scumbag lawyers.

So while the day is coming that this technology does come out, it is not here yet.

The way it will have to be done, is it will have to be given away for free. Say in Simple to follow plan forms. Flood the internet, give out a parts list with multiple vendors, and supply none of the parts yourself so nobody can claim you are a crook, joke, or con artist. You will win a Nobel prize, but you will not be able to sell it.

And for small minded idiots like clayton, the real way to do it, if you weren't such a self centered money hungry prick, would be flood the internet and public with the new technology so nobody could stop it, ensuring your own safety at the same time. They won't kill you when yer in the public light like that. Then you spend pennies on the dollar shorting the energy stocks, and can make billions over night in the options market. Just short the shit out of them. But puts 6 months out for $20 to $30 lower than the market, and you can pick up a thousand options for pennies. If you spent a few grand on options like that when you put out the free energy device, you would be a millionaire, possibly billionaire overnight.

Like I said, I am very close to doing this myself, and have thought quite a bit about not getting killed, and how to profit from it. This is the way to do it. The only way they will shut you down is if you try to start a company to sell them, and don't get the info out fast enough. They will come down on you like an Arab with a box Cutter ;)

Hope this helps and puts your mind at ease...
 Quoting: Himie 1177014

If you stay quite and humble than nobody will kill you over the technology. If you try to sell it then you are as good as dead. Use the technology for your family and closest friends and stay quiet. Once enough people understand than you can sell your services as an expert in the field.
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See, the problem is guys like Clayton that want to sell it and be rich... Instead of share it so everyone in the world can generate their own power.
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My point is merely that anyone with a shred of business acumen has an incentive to get a free energy device working.

I have been working on a device such as this for a while now, and believe I am quite close. I am about $300 away from finish, which might as well be half a world away at the moment, with no cash to spend on it.
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It's kind of like the end of the rainbow.

so let me state a few facts...

first off, free energy doesn't violate the laws of physics.
 Quoting: Himie 1177014


It makes a perpetual motion machine possible, which is a violation of the 2nd law.

That is just a myth people are taught in school so they do not pursue the particular field. There are many ways to get energy from nothing that do not violate physics. Solar, Wind, hydro electric. They are all free... so right there, their argument is toast.
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As I said, all energy comes from either the Sun or the Earth. No one has ever "generated" energy. Energy is merely converted from less convenient to more convenient forms (with losses) and transported to the locations where it is going to be used. We call this industry of conversion and transportation "the energy industry."

I have been working on permanent magnet generators. Which, to the laymen, like captain physics there seems physically impossible since you get something for nothing. But, to the educated, we know that magnets loose their magnetic field, so it does cost something to create. Its just very little. A good permanent magnet will die in 400 years. After 400 years, they will need to be replaced. They do not count that, so they call it free.

Tesla had a number of methods for producing free energy, and he was bankrupted because of it. Greed is the constant motivator in this world.

The reason we do not see free energy devices commercially available today is beause it would destroy the power / political structure we live in. A byproduct of free energy is gravitational effects, and vice versa. IF you build a simple free energy generator with rotating parts, a very small modification to it will make it float / fly. Take a look at the world of John Searl for an example of this.
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Why do I keep hearing the sound of a duck quacking as I read this?

So as soon as free energy goes mainstream, you destroy the oil / power companies.
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That's silly. You suggest that solar/wind are "free" energy and that oil is not. You have it exactly backwards. Until one of you free-energy quacks actually builds a working prototype and puts it into mass-production, oil is the lowest cost form of energy available today.

We can run our cars on electric, and can now travel anywhere for free, so no more gas. Gas is basically a tax to travel. They like it that way, it suits them. Take a quick glance at The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. It was originally written in the 1700s. Many people claim it to be a farce, or some type of hoax, yet each of the rules eerily describe a method of control in use today. It reads like it was written a few years ago, not 300...
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You're forgetting that anything which requires an ounce of human effort is not "free" in the economic sense (you seem to be confusing free beer with free electrons). So what, you build the world's first "free energy" machine but what happens when it breaks down? Some "free energy mechanic" has to be paid to put it in working order again, change the filter, etc. So, it's not really free, just cheaper than the alternatives.

Once you can travel for free, the airlines go down. No more paying Fuck-X, UPS, or USBS $32 to send a letter overnight 1 town over. We can now move food and materials at breakneck speeds from 1 location to the other, eliminating their ability to generate billions in tolls, traffic fines and all the other crap control they instill upon the people for "Their own sake, and that of safety."
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Oh boy, here comes the Venus Project Zombie Horde.

For that matter, once you can travel for free, we could all hover 3 miles off the coast and never pay property taxes again. SO all land, other than farm and coastal properties, becomes devalued. This is the greatest threat of all... For example, I use to live in a condo on the ocean. It was 1 condo, out of 250 on 5 acres of land. The Property taxes were 10k/year per condo. Thats 2.5 million/year in property taxes. We then decided to move to a rural area, and i bought a 2 acre ranch home in the suburbs. We now pay 7k/year for 2 acres, or 17.5k/year for 5 acres. That's a net loss of over 2.4 million dollars a year to the government. It is in the Governments best interest to pack people in as tightly as possible, because they make more money per sq. foot that way. If we could all travel for free and very high speeds, I could live in Hawaii, and work in New York every morning if it only took me a few mins to get there. Recorded speeds for free energy / saucer craft is between 10,000 and 40,000 mph. It would take me maybe 5 mins to get to NY from Hawaii to go to work. So it would destroy the people's need to work where the city is. For that matter, we could all float in the sky like the Jetsons, and use most of the land for farm land, killing the world economies while feeding the entire population.

There are usually 2 ways to do something, a positive way, and a negative way, a constructive way and a destructive way. A natural way, and an un-natural way. an Explosion is a negative destructive way, while implosion is a positive or constructive force. it is very easy to exit the earth's atmosphere in a positive constructive way. It is quite another to blast our way through riding a controlled explosion. They, the dickheads in charge, want us to think the only way to do it is a negative way, because it allows them to siphon off billions of dollars right in front of us. Meanwhile, they can come and go with technology that has existed at least since the 1950s, Look up Otis Carr, who was the Bell Boy in the Hotel New Yorker where Tesla spent the end of his life, and whom Tesla took under his wing and gifted the infamous Blue Notebook. In 1959 Carr had billboards up and was going to sell kits allowing anyone to build their own saucer craft for $259 USD. The feds shut him down, tried to make a case against him, but nobody would press charges. It was a giant smear campaign which people still quote today. Yet every once of his investors rode in a 45 foot craft he built. His Co-Pilot was a guy named Ralph Ring who has given many lectures on the subject as well, and is still alive today speaking at conferences.
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Goddamn, you should start a business selling insomnia remedy.

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See, the problem is guys like Clayton that want to sell it and be rich... Instead of share it so everyone in the world can generate their own power.

I have been working on a device such as this for a while now, and believe I am quite close. I am about $300 away from finish, which might as well be half a world away at the moment, with no cash to spend on it.

so let me state a few facts...

first off, free energy doesn't violate the laws of physics. That is just a myth people are taught in school so they do not pursue the particular field. There are many ways to get energy from nothing that do not violate physics. Solar, Wind, hydro electric. They are all free... so right there, their argument is toast.

I have been working on permanent magnet generators. Which, to the laymen, like captain physics there seems physically impossible since you get something for nothing. But, to the educated, we know that magnets loose their magnetic field, so it does cost something to create. Its just very little. A good permanent magnet will die in 400 years. After 400 years, they will need to be replaced. They do not count that, so they call it free.

Tesla had a number of methods for producing free energy, and he was bankrupted because of it. Greed is the constant motivator in this world.

The reason we do not see free energy devices commercially available today is beause it would destroy the power / political structure we live in. A byproduct of free energy is gravitational effects, and vice versa. IF you build a simple free energy generator with rotating parts, a very small modification to it will make it float / fly. Take a look at the world of John Searl for an example of this.

So as soon as free energy goes mainstream, you destroy the oil / power companies. We can run our cars on electric, and can now travel anywhere for free, so no more gas. Gas is basically a tax to travel. They like it that way, it suits them. Take a quick glance at The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. It was originally written in the 1700s. Many people claim it to be a farce, or some type of hoax, yet each of the rules eerily describe a method of control in use today. It reads like it was written a few years ago, not 300...

Once you can travel for free, the airlines go down. No more paying Fuck-X, UPS, or USBS $32 to send a letter overnight 1 town over. We can now move food and materials at breakneck speeds from 1 location to the other, eliminating their ability to generate billions in tolls, traffic fines and all the other crap control they instill upon the people for "Their own sake, and that of safety."

For that matter, once you can travel for free, we could all hover 3 miles off the coast and never pay property taxes again. SO all land, other than farm and coastal properties, becomes devalued. This is the greatest threat of all... For example, I use to live in a condo on the ocean. It was 1 condo, out of 250 on 5 acres of land. The Property taxes were 10k/year per condo. Thats 2.5 million/year in property taxes. We then decided to move to a rural area, and i bought a 2 acre ranch home in the suburbs. We now pay 7k/year for 2 acres, or 17.5k/year for 5 acres. That's a net loss of over 2.4 million dollars a year to the government. It is in the Governments best interest to pack people in as tightly as possible, because they make more money per sq. foot that way. If we could all travel for free and very high speeds, I could live in Hawaii, and work in New York every morning if it only took me a few mins to get there. Recorded speeds for free energy / saucer craft is between 10,000 and 40,000 mph. It would take me maybe 5 mins to get to NY from Hawaii to go to work. So it would destroy the people's need to work where the city is. For that matter, we could all float in the sky like the Jetsons, and use most of the land for farm land, killing the world economies while feeding the entire population.

There are usually 2 ways to do something, a positive way, and a negative way, a constructive way and a destructive way. A natural way, and an un-natural way. an Explosion is a negative destructive way, while implosion is a positive or constructive force. it is very easy to exit the earth's atmosphere in a positive constructive way. It is quite another to blast our way through riding a controlled explosion. They, the dickheads in charge, want us to think the only way to do it is a negative way, because it allows them to siphon off billions of dollars right in front of us. Meanwhile, they can come and go with technology that has existed at least since the 1950s, Look up Otis Carr, who was the Bell Boy in the Hotel New Yorker where Tesla spent the end of his life, and whom Tesla took under his wing and gifted the infamous Blue Notebook. In 1959 Carr had billboards up and was going to sell kits allowing anyone to build their own saucer craft for $259 USD. The feds shut him down, tried to make a case against him, but nobody would press charges. It was a giant smear campaign which people still quote today. Yet every once of his investors rode in a 45 foot craft he built. His Co-Pilot was a guy named Ralph Ring who has given many lectures on the subject as well, and is still alive today speaking at conferences.

Tesla had the technology in the early 1900s. He made statements that if you ever saw him flying in 1 of his craft you wouldn't recognize it, and it would look like a box. He even disseminated plans for an electrical apparatus that would generate its own gravitational force capable of lifting x amount of weight depending on the weight of the rotating components. So while they may be able to smear Carr, who was Tesla's Protege, conveniently left out by his attackers, nobody can say Tesla was full of shit.

There is a decent amount of evidence that says the Nazis had saucer craft as well. They enlisted the aid, all be it at gunpoint, of Viktor Schauberger. His designs and patents were stolen by a Texas company in the mid 1950s also, and he died destitute. His son pursued a lawsuit for years but ultimately lost not being able to mount a decent attack against big oil's massive slew of scumbag lawyers.

So while the day is coming that this technology does come out, it is not here yet.

The way it will have to be done, is it will have to be given away for free. Say in Simple to follow plan forms. Flood the internet, give out a parts list with multiple vendors, and supply none of the parts yourself so nobody can claim you are a crook, joke, or con artist. You will win a Nobel prize, but you will not be able to sell it.

And for small minded idiots like clayton, the real way to do it, if you weren't such a self centered money hungry prick, would be flood the internet and public with the new technology so nobody could stop it, ensuring your own safety at the same time. They won't kill you when yer in the public light like that. Then you spend pennies on the dollar shorting the energy stocks, and can make billions over night in the options market. Just short the shit out of them. But puts 6 months out for $20 to $30 lower than the market, and you can pick up a thousand options for pennies. If you spent a few grand on options like that when you put out the free energy device, you would be a millionaire, possibly billionaire overnight.

Like I said, I am very close to doing this myself, and have thought quite a bit about not getting killed, and how to profit from it. This is the way to do it. The only way they will shut you down is if you try to start a company to sell them, and don't get the info out fast enough. They will come down on you like an Arab with a box Cutter ;)

Hope this helps and puts your mind at ease...
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This post^ has my vote for best post of 2010 on GLP.

Very well done.
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Don't let the secret of the improbable probability drive out!

Instead siphon some simple tech off like a generator powered by the flow of traffic on the highways then sell that and retire and race Porches...

I think this guy new a bit of what is going on around us while he was alive,

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Do you think that there are generators that can produce enough energy to support a household 100%? I have seen with my own eyes that there is such innovation in the world.

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Jess. You are a breath of fresh air!

My grandfather invented an apparatus that worked on perpetual motion principles. It was entirely mechanical, but he used magnets, sound, and harmonic balance to diminish/mitigate the forces acting against the perpetual aspect of the motion. (if this makes sense?)

Essentially, the polarity was timed to reverse based on the position of the rotating axis. He was an engineer from Germany and knew how to design/machine the parts for accuracy and to 'mimic' frequencies that opposed opposing forces, so as to negate the effects. Similar to the principles used to negate sound - as a speaker might emit to counter the hum of rotating machinery. He knew how to use torsion as a principle for creating direct current energy at the only point that penetrated the apparatus. The unit required no storage of power to feed the demand. Again, everything he used the power for was suing direst current.

In essence, the machine was a self-contained generator that could be started by hand. It would run for approximately 3 days before the electricity being generated, was well-below the required parameter, to power a single-room in the barn.

The machine would only rotate in a single direction, like a Wankel combustion engine; less the combustion engine, of course.

He was denied a patent. He wasn't allowed to patent any of the integral ideas that made up the whole of the apparatus. And shortly after wards, he destroyed the plans, the machine and was committed to an asylum where he later died.

Fucked up. But true.
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I'm not concerned with hydrocarbons.

What if someone with a "Free Energy" device decided, for whatever mad reason, that he/she wanted to melt the Himalayan glaciers?

See where I'm going with this?

Free Energy devices mean literally UNLIMITED channeling of electrical, hence thermal, power to be directed to whatever task the user decides is needed.

Did you miss the first page on Bearden's site where he has a picture of a coffee cup, and the caption attached to it?

Do you think something as large as melting a glacier would go unnoticed? really?
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Non-sequitur FAIL.
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Do you think that there are generators that can produce enough energy to support a household 100%? I have seen with my own eyes that there is such innovation in the world.



Jess. You are a breath of fresh air!

My grandfather invented an apparatus that worked on perpetual motion principles. It was entirely mechanical, but he used magnets, sound, and harmonic balance to diminish/mitigate the forces acting against the perpetual aspect of the motion. (if this makes sense?)

Essentially, the polarity was timed to reverse based on the position of the rotating axis. He was an engineer from Germany and knew how to design/machine the parts for accuracy and to 'mimic' frequencies that opposed opposing forces, so as to negate the effects. Similar to the principles used to negate sound - as a speaker might emit to counter the hum of rotating machinery. He knew how to use torsion as a principle for creating direct current energy at the only point that penetrated the apparatus. The unit required no storage of power to feed the demand. Again, everything he used the power for was suing direst current.

In essence, the machine was a self-contained generator that could be started by hand. It would run for approximately 3 days before the electricity being generated, was well-below the required parameter, to power a single-room in the barn.

The machine would only rotate in a single direction, like a Wankel combustion engine; less the combustion engine, of course.

He was denied a patent. He wasn't allowed to patent any of the integral ideas that made up the whole of the apparatus. And shortly after wards, he destroyed the plans, the machine and was committed to an asylum where he later died.

Fucked up. But true.
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On edit: "suing direst" should read "using direct"
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Free energy info [link to amazing1.com]
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Go back and ask the guy to make one for your house, then get somebody to reverse engineer it and post the plans here.

Thanks in advance.
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Do you think that there are generators that can produce enough energy to support a household 100%? I have seen with my own eyes that there is such innovation in the world.



Jess. You are a breath of fresh air!

My grandfather invented an apparatus that worked on perpetual motion principles. It was entirely mechanical, but he used magnets, sound, and harmonic balance to diminish/mitigate the forces acting against the perpetual aspect of the motion. (if this makes sense?)

Essentially, the polarity was timed to reverse based on the position of the rotating axis. He was an engineer from Germany and knew how to design/machine the parts for accuracy and to 'mimic' frequencies that opposed opposing forces, so as to negate the effects. Similar to the principles used to negate sound - as a speaker might emit to counter the hum of rotating machinery. He knew how to use torsion as a principle for creating direct current energy at the only point that penetrated the apparatus. The unit required no storage of power to feed the demand. Again, everything he used the power for was suing direst current.

In essence, the machine was a self-contained generator that could be started by hand. It would run for approximately 3 days before the electricity being generated, was well-below the required parameter, to power a single-room in the barn.

The machine would only rotate in a single direction, like a Wankel combustion engine; less the combustion engine, of course.

He was denied a patent. He wasn't allowed to patent any of the integral ideas that made up the whole of the apparatus. And shortly after wards, he destroyed the plans, the machine and was committed to an asylum where he later died.

Fucked up. But true.
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The devise I've seen has nothing to do with perpetual motion but I'd be interested to see a device work in that manner. Can you explain this devise in detail to me? If you can please do I love this topic
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Yah woodnt need these free energy things if yah stop breeding so many kids.

Stop breeding, you selfish bastards!

Get sterilised.

Fk dah pope and the mooslem who want big families.
You are fukin selfish Pigs.

If yah have any brains. Think about what kinda over crowded hell world you are creating (for your cute little brats).

Happy Jesuschristwakeup and take your children to heaven with you now before they fuk up this planet with wars and breeding.
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Yah woodnt need these free energy things if yah stop breeding so many kids.

Stop breeding, you selfish bastards!

Get sterilised.

Fk dah pope and the mooslem who want big families.
You are fukin selfish Pigs.

If yah have any brains. Think about what kinda over crowded hell world you are creating (for your cute little brats).

Happy Jesuschristwakeup and take your children to heaven with you now before they fuk up this planet with wars and breeding.
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That's funny you say that since the US has only about 300 million people verses say China who has about 2 billion. Explain what you mean Billy?





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