Muslims claim Jesus was the first "Palestinian martyr"

What i still find interesting is that

Jesus was rejected by tptb

and murdered because He was a threat to the whole

power structure of the day.

Isn't that what glp is into???

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... yep ... not a single account of ANYTHING that satan doesn't get in and destroy ...
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... Palestinians didn't exist until the UN "established" them! ...
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Yes, indeed Once4All. "He was despised and rejected of men..." Both Roman and Jewish PTBs.

(I had heard the Arafat comment on Jesus before. What's his GLP user name? LOL j/k)

So. . .the UN created human beings that didn't exist before?!

Simple web search will show that the concept of a Palestinian nation began shortly before World War I.

OK, but the *people*. . .didn't they exist, regardless of what the territory was or was not named? Assigning the region the formal name "Palestine" didn't initiate some sort of spontaneous generation, did it?

That's pretty silly, isn't it AC 920. Irrelevant, too... unless you think Pocahontas was an American, too.

You really have no idea what Jesus is like, do you?

Given that, I will assume you don't know much about the rest of what you are talking about.

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How is it silly to consider people as primarily Human Beings instead of "Americans" or "Palestinians" or "Jews" or whatever?

I'm just curious how many folks feel it's actually a righteous thing to wrong people or persons as soon as their politcal or national affiliation is redefined by a third party.

I'll answer you after you answer me. Was Pocahontas an American?

Lol - I see. I dunno whether the land was referred to as "North America" when she lived, so I have no idea.

In her time I think it was called "The New World."

But, as to your question, we make labels for lots of things, usually because we bring our own agenda to the table. That's what Arafat was doing with Jesus.

Ah. I'm not concerned with Arafat. . .note that my initial response was regarding the UN's alleged "creation" of Palestinians.

The real problem behind all this is that largely, Christians are OK with "Jewish" treatment of people who were living in the region for centuries. A hundred years ago, the area was a bunch of unwalled villages, dwelling in safety. Then there came an invasion, and we Christians have been supporting and applauding the invaders ever since, because we errantly judge by the label those invaders wear instead of by their fruits. It's as if we suddenly forget where Christ told Israel, right to their faces, in the hills of Jerusalem, to "love your neighbors" and "love your enemies" and "bless those who curse you" and "consider the least of these", etc.
This is a pretty serious problem.

Arafat = Muslims?

Unless I misunderstood a history lesson, I think the UN created modern Israel in 1948 and the modern Palestinian Authority more recently.

But your point is well taken, at least by me. I have close friends who work with both Israelis and Palestinians, and from listening to them, I think I am rather well educated on the subject.

As for following Jesus' directions to "bless those who curse you," we get a lot of practice with that on some of Watcher's threads!

Thank you for your posts!

You are naive for taking everything so literally...

It's called immigration by arab squatters, mainly the egyptian and syrian criminals, designated "palestinians", that's why no one likes them not even their "mooslim brethren".

I know - I should prolly chill out. It's just a bunch of foreigners, right?

;)

some families that live there now have lived there for some nine generations

"no one likes them "

"they do not exist"

you think repeating it enough times is going to make it true?

God created them and loves them.

thruth posts kill threads

Like you have met him before...

something you would think people of God would know.

I'll speak for myself. This is a very difficult thing for me to do: not so much to love others who are not a whole lot like me, but to be vulnerable enough to open up to let them love me back. Trust me, the latter is much more difficult than the former.

if the bad situations between palestinians and israel are a test then it is a test that israel is failing.

Well, frankly I'm more concerned with myself than with Israel.. you know?

palestine comes from the word phillistine, meaning displaced peoples.

The term Palestine is derived from Greek: Παλαιστινη/​Latin: Palaestina, which refers to the biblical Philistines, a people of Aegean origin who settled in the southern coastal plains of Canaan, in the 12th century BC, their territory being named Philistia.

After crushing Bar Kochba's revolt in 132-135, the Romans applied the name to the entire region that had formerly included Iudaea Province,[1] in an attempt to suppress Jewish national feelings.[2][3] The Arabic toponym Filasteen (Arabic: فلسطين‎) is also derived from the Latin name.

"The name Palestine, which the Romans had bestowed on the conquered and subjugated land of Judea, had been retained for a time by the Arab conquerors to designate an administrative subdivision of their Syrian province." The name had disappeared from the region prior to the arrival of the Crusaders. The term was rediscovered in Europe at the time of the Renaissance and used to refer to what "European Christians ... previously called the Holy Land." "The name was not used officially, and had no precise territorial definition until it was adopted by the British to designate the area which they acquired by conquest at the end of World War I and ruled under mandate from the League of Nations."[4]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There was a conspiracy by tptb

to silence this man who was challenging their authority.

Jesus exposed those powers as fraudulent and corrupt....

part of same mission as glp today: Expose the corruption...
try to change the world for the better!

hmmmm,

never noticed that!