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Why Do You Hate?

 
FreedomStands

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And, Nikki, don't even bother with that other thread, okay? (the one that prompted this thread) It's not even worth it.


Oh, I was afraid you meant my thread!


Hehe, I realized that, hence the fast edit!
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


Thanks for the fast edit! I appreciate that you even thought about my feelings! How excellent!
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Re: Why Do You Hate?
Aren't you the Christian anti gay hater?


Me?

Far from it I'm the one who fights for equal rights for everyone!

Hey Nikky...remember that day we meet face to face in the chatroom?
That day the relationships between you and I changed...till that very day, you used to come to my threads to insult me and call me names....now it doesnt happen anymore, u dont do that anymore, but have you ever thought why you did that in the first place, without even knowing me??

That was a blind hate, you hated me.


Yes I learned and I changed.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


That just warmed my heart. Thanks, Nikki and Gaia!
hf hf
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to answer your question... people are haters because they lack internal ojects..

Look up object relations theory...

when people don't have normal internal objects they are forced to develop objects that are largely narccisstic in nature, hate is a false object created by those who lack healthy internal objects...

without internal objects, the ego cannot develop normally, so those with false internal objecs, have deficits in terms of ego strengths and are prone to identify with those groups that are condemnatory, which is really a projection of their own internal emotional conflict...
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Sounds interesting I will follow up on that.
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Re: Why Do You Hate?
I hear so many hateful things here that don't seem to have a logical reason.



I can't answer for all of them, but I'm gonna guess fear of the unknown?


I think people might get caught up in just acting certain ways because they don't pay attention to themselves or realize what they are doing, that other people are human as well.
 Quoting: FreedomStands

That may be.

I've seen some nasty hateful shit tossed around here, and at Nikki the past few days too.

Its wasteful, and I can't understand how someone can be that way when the other person hasn't done anything to them.
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And, Nikki, don't even bother with that other thread, okay? (the one that prompted this thread) It's not even worth it.


Oh, I was afraid you meant my thread!


Hehe, I realized that, hence the fast edit!


Thanks for the fast edit! I appreciate that you even thought about my feelings! How excellent!
 Quoting: FreedomStands


And to you, I give you a
hf too!
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Severely annoyed, constantly. Hate? Never.

Well, ok. There is one exception. People who wear stripes with checks. They are sub-human and should be wiped off the face of the earth along with all their progeny.
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That was a blind hate, you hated me.


Yes I learned and I changed.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


There are some who may wish to drive us back to our old behaviors and habits, to cause us to truly fall again from our keen observance of conduct we deem excellent, but even if we do we may always stand up again, dignified in respectfulness and kindness.

Realizing things, and correcting one's own conduct first, can seem difficult at times, but once one makes it a habit to repeatedly treat others with kindness despite how they come with potential attacks, it may become a most natural behavior for us, and even those who witness us.

What was done in the past, or past behaviors, should not hold people down from a future of excellence.

Realizing that hate breeds hate and discord among people, violence, and even if you do hate, to not exemplify it but rather to exemplify kindness and gentleness to encourage others to follow suit!
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Nikki_LaVey  (OP)

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Re: Why Do You Hate?
How do you define hate, Nik?


well i would say eleveted vile dislike because of personal stabbings for whatever reason or outward total disdain for other people in this life

to be a pariah


Great answer.



I'm still waiting for your answer, Nik.
 Quoting: Turtles Know


I would put it this way hate is an emotion that people have an total disgust towards something or someone.
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cRoSS FiRe

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Since I have been at GLP, it seems to me that Nikki and Gaia have been the primary targets of some nasty, unwarranted stuff. There have been others too, but not as much nor as bad.

Just sayin my observation.
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Aren't you the Christian anti gay hater?


She is also the one who made the comment "where are the marshmallows" when Israel was ablaze". But who's counting?


Much as I love you Nik, I'm still pissed about that, especially coming from someone who promotes "tolerance".


No it is from a joke a friend said to me when I almost caught on fire.

No matter where the fire was I would make th Marshmallow joke.

 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey




Absolute hogwash.

Would you make the same "joke" if your mother were on fire?
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Severely annoyed, constantly. Hate? Never.

Well, ok. There is one exception. People who wear stripes with checks. They are sub-human and should be wiped off the face of the earth along with all their progeny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1167923


You're probably joking, but please consider that calls for execution and infantcide may not really be that considerate. Talking about human life in extremely disrespectful ways. That is what motivated me to write this thread, Thread: MUSLIMS AND ISLAM: Some information!

For trying to provide information to people about a massive world religion, I was attacked and accused of many things! It was a good experience, because it really made clear to me the benefits of maintaining one's own dignity and trying to keep a gentle and kind attitude towards all, even thanking people who had accused me of things.
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Nikki_LaVey  (OP)

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Aren't you the Christian anti gay hater?


She is also the one who made the comment "where are the marshmallows" when Israel was ablaze". But who's counting?


Much as I love you Nik, I'm still pissed about that, especially coming from someone who promotes "tolerance".


No it is from a joke a friend said to me when I almost caught on fire.

No matter where the fire was I would make th Marshmallow joke.





Absolute hogwash.

Would you make the same "joke" if your mother were on fire?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203620


Actually I made that joke after my home burned!

I wouldn't roast marshmallows over my dead mother if she was on fire, so was embalmed and most likely the fire would be toxic.
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12/26/2010 11:36 PM
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Everyone has had feelings of hatred at one time or another. To deny this is not really being honest. It is pretty bad at various places on this forum.....but there are also some nice people if you search them out.
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Since I have been at GLP, it seems to me that Nikki and Gaia have been the primary targets of some nasty, unwarranted stuff. There have been others too, but not as much nor as bad.

Just sayin my observation.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


I think her and I both have pretty thick skins and can handle this type of hate.
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I hear so many hateful things here that don't seem to have a logical reason.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey




because they are inspired by their lower nature.....and nurture it........in other words, they are cretins.
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I don't hate your kind in the literal sense, I am just doing my part for the kingdom of God to tell you of the error in your ways. Sometimes I may say a hurtful thing or two but I really don't hate sodomites or homo's.


If it makes you feel any better God views your sin no different than he does the thief or drunkard neither will inherit the kingdom of God unless they accept Jesus as savior and repent of their sins.


OK think for a minute do you know what My Relationsip with God is?





According to His word... Non-existent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203620


620 deems himself worthy to speak for god and assumes he is in a position to gauge Gods relationship and opinion of Nikki as non-existent. My understanding is that Jesus took in those that others (such as yourself) considered wayward and made them his disciples and actually reserved a spot for them in his kingdom. Also the thief and the other guy who were crucified next to him.

The hot spot was reserved for the judgemental.
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Everyone has had feelings of hatred at one time or another. To deny this is not really being honest. It is pretty bad at various places on this forum.....but there are also some nice people if you search them out.
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Oh I agree nd I have many wonderful people here I call friends. I know that most people here are good people am talking about those who hate just to hate.
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I hate certain situations, and certain behaviors, but I don't hate people.

Why do I hate certain things? Because they are awkward, unpleasant, or painful.
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And to you, I give you a
hf too!
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Thank You!
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I don't hate your kind in the literal sense, I am just doing my part for the kingdom of God to tell you of the error in your ways. Sometimes I may say a hurtful thing or two but I really don't hate sodomites or homo's.


If it makes you feel any better God views your sin no different than he does the thief or drunkard neither will inherit the kingdom of God unless they accept Jesus as savior and repent of their sins.


OK think for a minute do you know what My Relationsip with God is?





According to His word... Non-existent.


620 deems himself worthy to speak for god and assumes he is in a position to gauge Gods relationship and opinion of Nikki as non-existent. My understanding is that Jesus took in those that others (such as yourself) considered wayward and made them his disciples and actually reserved a spot for them in his kingdom. Also the thief and the other guy who were crucified next to him.

The hot spot was reserved for the judgemental.
 Quoting: SonnyListon


So it does appear.

I wonder how 620 would feel if they knew I am a member of a Christian Church and that I help people at my church and other churches feed and clothe the poor. Many times in my life I have taken in the needy and homeless into my home.
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I hear so many hateful things here that don't seem to have a logical reason.




because they are inspired by their lower nature.....and nurture it........in other words, they are cretins.
 Quoting: fillantpre 1208016


I think the danger begins when we begin to think we definitely know something without realizing that we only believe something.

Then we start to call people names, just like they call us names, and it becomes a messy battle.

Rather, if we behaved in a way realizing our equality in true ignorance, meaning that neither of us really know anything for sure, we might approach people in a more kind way, and also realize what they are saying may or may not be, but that shouldn't interfere with our being first and foremost in exemplifying behavior we believe is best.
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I had an explanation, but it was a wall of words that no one would care to understand.


Seriously, speak if you will!

I find your wisdom enlightening.

You were going to say something like hating sin, right?
 Quoting: Once4All


Yes, how it could have easily been me, nature, nurture, genetics, fate, destiny, spiritual...etc... I attempted an explanation and was hit by a thousand different angles....
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For example, we don't really know what is "lower" or "higher" nature, or who is or isn't a "cretin". We may be the lowest or highest or neither, but even if we were, how would we know we were? We would only believe one or the other about ourselves, and place everyone else in their corresponding ranks. But I believe the ranks, and if there are ranks, are truly unknown to us, and that our behavior may fall into roughness when we believe we definitely know who is what, and why.
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I hate certain situations, and certain behaviors, but I don't hate people.

Why do I hate certain things? Because they are awkward, unpleasant, or painful.
 Quoting: D's Pet


That is a very different thing!

You dear later are a target of the same haters because you live a non mainstream life.

Different people scare the hell out of these people. You are beyond their understanding just like I am. You are in a happy relationship and that makes me happy for you. I'm a tad jealous because I don't have a relationship with a significant other right now.

Maybe everyone should read "A Stranger in a Strange Land" by Robert Heinlein
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So it does appear.

I wonder how 620 would feel if they knew I am a member of a Christian Church and that I help people at my church and other churches feed and clothe the poor. Many times in my life I have taken in the needy and homeless into my home.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


The judgmental are those who think they know something, when they don't really know if they know anything with certainty, so they only guess.

If one believes in God, they may believe that God is what sustains everything, what everything came from and exists by, and is also the only that may have true knowledge and awareness of reality while encompassing all knowledge and information. Furthermore, those who believe in God may believe that God is the witness to absolutely everything, and God is the best judge of one's conduct. So even if no one witnesses our goodness or good deeds, a believer in God may at least gain some heart in believing that God is aware of our conduct and intentions always.

Also, many people believe in an eventual day of judgment, where God will call people to account for how they behaved in life. So that should be even more motivation for those who believe to try to be the first and foremost in conduct they deem excellent and with best intent.
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Since I have been at GLP, it seems to me that Nikki and Gaia have been the primary targets of some nasty, unwarranted stuff. There have been others too, but not as much nor as bad.

Just sayin my observation.


I think her and I both have pretty thick skins and can handle this type of hate.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey

No I dont have that skin...is rather hurting what is going on here around.
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Severely annoyed, constantly. Hate? Never.

Well, ok. There is one exception. People who wear stripes with checks. They are sub-human and should be wiped off the face of the earth along with all their progeny.


You're probably joking, but please consider that calls for execution and infantcide may not really be that considerate. Talking about human life in extremely disrespectful ways. That is what motivated me to write this thread, Thread: MUSLIMS AND ISLAM: Some information!

For trying to provide information to people about a massive world religion, I was attacked and accused of many things! It was a good experience, because it really made clear to me the benefits of maintaining one's own dignity and trying to keep a gentle and kind attitude towards all, even thanking people who had accused me of things.
 Quoting: FreedomStands

Holding something (like hate) up to ridicule robs it of it's power. Arrogance, tyranny, stupidity, superstition, narrow mindedness; none can tolerate being laughed at for very long. I may someday start a thread devoted to the subject of humor as a weapon. It has a long and interesting history.
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No I dont have that skin...is rather hurting what is going on here around.
 Quoting: ~GAIA~


I think it is best to assume all people may not enjoy having themselves, their families, their beliefs, or anything else related to them insulted or attacked verbally, physically, or by implications and accusations.
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So it does appear.

I wonder how 620 would feel if they knew I am a member of a Christian Church and that I help people at my church and other churches feed and clothe the poor. Many times in my life I have taken in the needy and homeless into my home.


The judgmental are those who think they know something, when they don't really know if they know anything with certainty, so they only guess.

If one believes in God, they may believe that God is what sustains everything, what everything came from and exists by, and is also the only that may have true knowledge and awareness of reality while encompassing all knowledge and information. Furthermore, those who believe in God may believe that God is the witness to absolutely everything, and God is the best judge of one's conduct. So even if no one witnesses our goodness or good deeds, a believer in God may at least gain some heart in believing that God is aware of our conduct and intentions always.

Also, many people believe in an eventual day of judgment, where God will call people to account for how they behaved in life. So that should be even more motivation for those who believe to try to be the first and foremost in conduct they deem excellent and with best intent.
 Quoting: FreedomStands



I have prayed in churches, temples and holy places all over the world and God could hear me in everyone. God doesn't care who you love as long as you love.
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Holding something (like hate) up to ridicule robs it of it's power. Arrogance, tyranny, stupidity, superstition, narrow mindedness; none can tolerate being laughed at for very long. I may someday start a thread devoted to the subject of humor as a weapon. It has a long and interesting history.
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I think that, though I believe you may be right, laughing at people and ridiculing them might also be hurtful and cause more trouble than it does any real good.
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