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The Goal (for the 99%) is to DISAMBIGUATE the Three Income Taxes, Not Abolish Them

The group that would benefit most from abolishing either of the three income taxes is the 1%, and if they have to pay any income tax, they’d prefer the currency-regulating income tax established in Springer v. U.S. (1880), which is the income tax most of us are dealing with today (though we tend not to recognize the Springer origins of the tax).


The 1% favor the “Springer income tax” because in recent decades they've succeeded in destroying the progressivity of the tax (which is now around 40% on the top income bracket, but used to be as high as 94%), substantially reduced the rates on capital gains (to about 15%-20%, below half the top bracket rate), and created key loopholes that entirely exempt some unearned income.


In this Doc, I’d like to experiment with labeling the 3 income taxes by the Supreme Court cases which Constitutionalized the tax. Hopefully, this will make the distinction between the three income taxes easier to understand, rather than trying to explain them from discussions about the 16th Amendment, which is always how the 1% want to frame the discussion, i.e., that the 16th Amendment is the cause of the problem and we’d all be better off without it.


As I often warn so-called tax protesters, abolishing the 16th Amendment would make matters much worse, and would do nothing except except exempt taxation of landlords, lenders, employers and speculators.



THE “SPRINGER INCOME TAX”


I often call this the “currency-regulating income tax” or the “legal tender privilege income tax,” but the tax is basically derived from England’s 1799 income tax, which was used by the Crown to support the Bank of England as it came off the coin standard.


The U.S. version was first levied 1862-1872. William Springer, an attorney, challenged the tax on his 1865 law practice earnings (along with some interest income) in Springer v. U.S. (1880), but lost. He rested his case on the argument that the income tax on his wages was a direct tax on his personal property, and needed to be apportioned under the Direct Tax Clauses (which meant Congress couldn't collect the tax; only levy it against the states).


The Supreme Court did not explain themselves very well, but essentially held that since the target of the tax was on Springer’s use of currencies not issued and controlled exclusively by the peoples’ Congress (the U.S. “sovereign”), the tax was ruled to be indirect on Springer’s wages.


In effect, because Springer received his wages in currencies not under Congress’s direct and exclusive control, his "wages as personal property" (which could only be levied under the Direct Tax Clauses) was converted into “wage income” (which could easily be levied under the Indirect Tax Clause).


The word “income” was not yet in the Constitution when Springer lost his case, but nevertheless the Court in 1880 considered the tax on Springer’s income to be an indirect “income duty” or “income excise tax” under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1 (the Indirect or Uniformity Clause).

[link to en.wikipedia.org]



THE “POLLOCK INCOME TAX”


As I just mentioned, one of the problems with the Springer case was that in addition to “wage income” he also earned some interest income, so in addition to money "incoming" to Springer from national banks and their (legal tender) notes, money was also coming from Springer’s savings, his personal property.


Some pro-Georgist Congressmen accentuated the difference between the two income taxes in the 1894 income tax by adding a tax on landlord rental income, where land was the personal property of the landlord, from which the rental income was derived. The Supreme Court struck down this 1894 income tax in Pollock v. Farmers’ Loan (1895), and because of this, I will refer to taxes on income derived from property sources as “Pollock income taxes.”


I sometimes refer to this income tax as the “property income tax” or “tax on property income” or “tax on income derived from property,” but since Pollock is the case that really highlighted this kind of income tax, I think it’s most appropriate to use that case name.


Incidentally, as many of you know, it was the ruling in Pollock that led to the need for the 16th Amendment, though it's hard to tell by simply reading the Amendment.


Unfortunately, the 16th Amendment was worded in such a way that makes it appear to have authorized all income taxes in the U.S., when really all it did was eliminate the idea that rental or interest income might be a direct tax on land, labor or capital.


Another common misconception advanced about the 16th Amendment is that it simply blocks us from considering the source of the income, and that all income essentially comes from the same source.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]



THE “STONE TRACY INCOME TAX”


To further prove the point that the 16th Amendment was not the origin of all three U.S. income taxes, in 1909 Congress levied an income tax on corporate privilege, where the corporation’s net income was used to measure the benefit enjoyed while exercising the state-granted privilege.


In Flint v. Stone Tracy Co. (1911) the corporate officers, directors and shareholders challenged the tax and made the same argument that Springer tried to make, i.e., that any tax on the corporation was a direct tax on property, and therefore a violation of the Direct Tax Clauses, which required Congress to apportion such tax liability among the states.


I sometimes refer to this as the “corporate privilege income tax” or “tax on income derived from corporation privilege.”


The Supreme Court disagreed, and essentially used the same argument used by the Springer Court, which is that since the tax is targeting the privilege only, and using income only to measure the benefit under the privilege, the tax is indirect on property, not a direct tax on property ownership, like for example, taxing one’s house, car, bicycle, etc.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]



ONE FINAL DISTINCTION


The final point I’d like to make in this Doc is that there are only two classes of income taxes, (1) those derived from property sources, and (2) those not derived from property (i.e., government-granted privilege).


This is an important distinction to keep in mind because with "taxes on income not derived from property sources," the income is simply used to measure the benefit. In other words, the income is really not the prime target, but only used to give the government some reasonable way to fairly tax the (corporate or legal tender) privilege holder (or not tax the privilege holder if there was a loss).


Anyway, the Springer and Stone Tracy income taxes are in the class of income taxes that are NOT derived from the property sources of land, labor or capital, but the Pollock income tax IS in that class.



So, for example, even if a tax patriot were to totally avoid the corporate and legal tender privileges, income tax liability could still arise under the "Pollock income tax" if there was evidence that the individual was acting like a landlord, lender, employer or speculator. These human actors create, respectively, the following kinds of income: rental income, interest income, profits from hiring labor, capital or land gains.
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It's not uncommon for legal words and phrases to have different meanings depending on the context within which they're used, but here I'd like to present the results of some of my research.



In a legal reference book called "Words and Phrases," decades ago I noticed a general trend for courts to distinguish between the legal terms "lawful money" and "lawful money of the United States," with the latter term primarily being used when money was being issued directly by the Treasury Department.



This suggests that adding the words "of the United States" means that the money mentioned is only supposed to refer only to that money "of" (or "coming from") the peoples' Congress.



Once in awhile the term "lawful money of the United States" is simply used to refer to U.S. money, particularly when legal circumstances require distinguishing U.S. money from foreign currencies, but in the strict legal sense, "lawful money of the United States" only refers to Treasury-Direct currencies, while "lawful money" refers to both "lawful money of the United States" plus private bank notes that have been given legal tender status by Congress.



Anyway, at the time I did my research, there was no separate phrase called "lawful money of the United States" contained in "Word and Phrases," but under the term "lawful money" there were about 23 examples of how various courts understood the term, and within those 23 examples, there were four instances where "of the United States" was added to the term "lawful money."



In every one of the four definitions for "lawful money of the United States," privately-issued bank notes were excluded from the phase. The same restriction would apply today, though instead of precious metals coinage, we now have a cheap metal coinage that is less susceptible to market manipulation.


(1) "Lawful money of the United States" means coin or treasury notes made a legal tender by act of Congress, and silver certificates or national bank notes are not included in the phrase." Perry v. State, 61 S.W. 400, 42 Tex.Cr.R. 540.



(2) "Lawful money of the United States" includes only gold and silver coin, or that which by law is made its equivalent, so as to be exchangeable therefor at par on demand, and does not include a currency note which, though nominally exchangeable for coin at its face value, is not redeemable on demand." Bronson v. Rodes, 74 U.S. 229, 247, 7 Wall. 229, 247, 19 L.Ed. 141.



(3) "Lawful money of the United States," as used in an indictment charging the larceny of $75 of "lawful money of the United States," cannot be construed to include the notes of national banks. Lawful money of the United States might consist of gold or silver coin or United States treasury notes and fractional currency. Hamilton v. State, 60 Ind. 193, 194, 28 Am.Rep. 653.



(4) The prevailing conception of "lawful money of the United States" is money in circulation by sanction of the laws of the United States. Check is not "lawful money of the United States" within statute authorizing deposit thereof in lieu of written undertaking with surety by attachment plaintiffs. McDaniel v. Patterson, 157 S.E. 72, 73, 159 S.C. 378.

Note: To avoid ambiguity and confusion over legal words and phrases, I'm going to suggest adding another legal phrase called "Treasury Direct Lawful Money of the United States" (TDLMUS) to our discussions to help us distinguish between: (1) "lawful money" (LM), which generally refers to any currency made legal tender by Congress and includes both privately-issued Federal Reserve notes and Treasury Direct current U.S. coin, paper U.S. Notes and electronic U.S. Notes; and (2) "lawful money of the United States" (LMUS), which should only refer to Treasury Direct current U.S. coins, paper U.S. Notes and electronic U.S. Notes, but is sometimes used by lawyers to generally refer to any currency accepted in the U.S. economy.
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The ALL CAPS NAME is not "mine" nor can it be "redeemed".

It, and the PERSON it is, is a legal vehicle used to conduct commerce. It is not ME nor has it ever been.

Since you asked, no, I do not have a legal NAME. All of my business affairs are handled via TRUSTS, set up by an ESTATE (both are NON-domestic).

I have nothing with "my name" on it. All my signature endorsements are restricted and all right reserved, without prejudice. All cases against me or my trusts or estate are adjudicated in my own Federal Court of record in the local District Court of the United States and notice is given of proceedings to the lower courts recorder as public notice.

If you would read the thread instead of trying to be right, you would already know that and exactly how it was done.

But you have not read the thread, have you.
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one would like to discuss the "trust" and "estate" angle of this more...
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how do you avoid paying proptery tax with lawful money ?
alloidial title obtainable in california ?
what is the best way to avoid paying propterty tax in usa ?
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how do u claim lawful money in ur auto deposit paycheck from ur company ?
signature card ? full refund in april 15 ?
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can you demand ur property taxes back in the refund ?
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how do you avoid paying proptery tax with lawful money ?
alloidial title obtainable in california ?
what is the best way to avoid paying propterty tax in usa ?
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The best way I have found to avoid property taxes is to start a non-profit and rent the land to it, leased land to a nonprofit in most states eliminates having to pay property taxes. As an employee of the non=profit you can stay on the land. In a perfect world and if the rule of law was enforced rather than our current corrupt system. You could use lawful money to make improvements pay taxes etc which would give yo the highest equity interest in the property and no one would have a higher claim. Means not paying a tax. Another interesting approach is to give an easement to someone you trust for the purpose of generation of wind and solar energy from 6 inches above ground and up. No one will foreclosing on your property. As the easement make the property worthless to anyone should the easement holder make a claim against any improvements.

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how do u claim lawful money in ur auto deposit paycheck from ur company ?
signature card ? full refund in april 15 ?
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I notice my bank via a hand delivered letter, date stamped and initialed by the teller that all transactions through and into my account were to be conducted in lawful money.

can you demand ur property taxes back in the refund ?
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I don't know I have never tried.

can you demand ur property taxes back in the refund ?
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I stopped paying taxes long before I heard about lawful money. When My youngest kid turned 18, i could no longer get money back from the fed, having not paid anything in except ssi, I was self employed, had my own business. Up to that point I had talked to an accountant, he basically said that my particular business, a book store and its merchandise value was based on what I could sell the books and goods I had purchased for. and no one alive has that gift of absolutely knowing that something will even sell and perhaps even at a loss. So it basically was what I said it was worth. I stayed below the poverty level in terms of capitol gains and money taken out of the business. You would be surprised what you can get a business to pay for you and not claim it as income. lol. I can safely say these things now as the statute of limitation in terms of taxes has long along run out. Just don't wave a flag in their face and they will ignore you.

PS I also started a church of my choice and as a paster of the church, it could pay for many of my living expences. Work around are so much better then confrontations.

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I stopped paying taxes long before I heard about lawful money. When My youngest kid turned 18, i could no longer get money back from the fed, having not paid anything in except ssi, I was self employed, had my own business. Up to that point I had talked to an accountant, he basically said that my particular business, a book store and its merchandise value was based on what I could sell the books and goods I had purchased for. and no one alive has that gift of absolutely knowing that something will even sell and perhaps even at a loss. So it basically was what I said it was worth. I stayed below the poverty level in terms of capitol gains and money taken out of the business. You would be surprised what you can get a business to pay for you and not claim it as income. lol. I can safely say these things now as the statute of limitation in terms of taxes has long along run out. Just don't wave a flag in their face and they will ignore you.

PS I also started a church of my choice and as a paster of the church, it could pay for many of my living expences. Work around are so much better then confrontations.
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did you claim lawful money on ur irs return and get full refund ?

the church thing is interesting, is it in thailand or the states ?
u have a congregation or it just an entity by itself ?
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can you collect rent on the non-profit property ?
the name kind of self-defeating but nevertheless worthy of business venture
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I stopped paying taxes long before I heard about lawful money. When My youngest kid turned 18, i could no longer get money back from the fed, having not paid anything in except ssi, I was self employed, had my own business. Up to that point I had talked to an accountant, he basically said that my particular business, a book store and its merchandise value was based on what I could sell the books and goods I had purchased for. and no one alive has that gift of absolutely knowing that something will even sell and perhaps even at a loss. So it basically was what I said it was worth. I stayed below the poverty level in terms of capitol gains and money taken out of the business. You would be surprised what you can get a business to pay for you and not claim it as income. lol. I can safely say these things now as the statute of limitation in terms of taxes has long along run out. Just don't wave a flag in their face and they will ignore you.

PS I also started a church of my choice and as a paster of the church, it could pay for many of my living expences. Work around are so much better then confrontations.
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did you claim lawful money on ur irs return and get full refund ?
the church thing is interesting, is it in thailand or the states ?
u have a congregation or it just an entity by itself ?
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I haven't filed a tax return in twenty years. I started not filing long before I heard of lawful money. I use lawful money now. I have not received any correspondance from the IRS since I quit filing in 1995, none. All my money goes through my lawful money account. No income no taxes.

can you collect rent on the non-profit property ?
the name kind of self-defeating but nevertheless worthy of business venture
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Yes you can collect rent from not profit organizations. I started my first church in oregon for 20 dollars and my second church in Hawaii for 20 dollars. I only file the non profit with the state. Never with the fed.
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I stopped paying taxes long before I heard about lawful money. When My youngest kid turned 18, i could no longer get money back from the fed, having not paid anything in except ssi, I was self employed, had my own business. Up to that point I had talked to an accountant, he basically said that my particular business, a book store and its merchandise value was based on what I could sell the books and goods I had purchased for. and no one alive has that gift of absolutely knowing that something will even sell and perhaps even at a loss. So it basically was what I said it was worth. I stayed below the poverty level in terms of capitol gains and money taken out of the business. You would be surprised what you can get a business to pay for you and not claim it as income. lol. I can safely say these things now as the statute of limitation in terms of taxes has long along run out. Just don't wave a flag in their face and they will ignore you.

PS I also started a church of my choice and as a paster of the church, it could pay for many of my living expences. Work around are so much better then confrontations.
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did you claim lawful money on ur irs return and get full refund ?
the church thing is interesting, is it in thailand or the states ?
u have a congregation or it just an entity by itself ?
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I haven't filed a tax return in twenty years. I started not filing long before I heard of lawful money. I use lawful money now. I have not received any correspondance from the IRS since I quit filing in 1995, none. All my money goes through my lawful money account. No income no taxes.

can you collect rent on the non-profit property ?
the name kind of self-defeating but nevertheless worthy of business venture
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Yes you can collect rent from not profit organizations. I started my first church in oregon for 20 dollars and my second church in Hawaii for 20 dollars. I only file the non profit with the state. Never with the fed.
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does stay below poverty level allow u not to file tax return for self employed bookstore income ?
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^^THANK YOU!!! The reason why this thread is a million pages long is because the INFORMATION IS WRONG and therefore provides comedy for the IRS!!!


Terminate your "voluntary" election to file (which they actually allow you to do believe it or not) OR stay liable to pay income taxes...its that simple.
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"The Federal Reserve System puts itself forward as a non-profit organization that turns over its operating profits to the U.S. Treasury, after all expenses, including the 6% dividend to member banks. However this misses the point on several scores. First, the banking profits coming through the privileged money creation process mainly occurs at the member bank level of operation, and those profits are not turned over to the Treasury. That is, the net earnings from the member banks seigniorage privilege are not turned over to our government but kept by the private member banks. For England this amount has been estimated at 41 Billion Pounds per year. For the US we think it’s between $100-200 billion per year; but we need to know the amount more precisely from the Fed itself."

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^^THANK YOU!!! The reason why this thread is a million pages long is because the INFORMATION IS WRONG and therefore provides comedy for the IRS!!!


Terminate your "voluntary" election to file (which they actually allow you to do believe it or not) OR stay liable to pay income taxes...its that simple.
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^^THANK YOU!!! The reason why this thread is a million pages long is because the INFORMATION IS WRONG and therefore provides comedy for the IRS!!!


Terminate your "voluntary" election to file (which they actually allow you to do believe it or not) OR stay liable to pay income taxes...its that simple.
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Bullshit, you use their frn's you pay the fee but good luck with your method of 'terminating your voluntary election to file'. Now THAT will get you a prison sentence.

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