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Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

 
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He spends hours and days arguing how and why he is right and that someday, I will lose everything and go to prison. Yet he does not call the IRS hotline and report me?
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Laughing.....quite the bravado from someone going by 'Anonymous Coward'.

You go anonymously. The people you're trying to shilling your latest tax con to have to use their real names.

A con, that by your own admission.....has never been recognized as valid by the courts.

Dude, why do you fucking care so much? It's like you work for the IRS. If it's legal, it's legal. If it's not legal, well you aren't breaking the law, so why do you seem to give a huge shit whether that other dude does or not?
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You're confused. I have no sympathy for the con men leeching money from folks with their latest tax avoidance scheme. Schiff, both Browns, and Hendricksen can rot in prison for all I care.

The problem I have with this nonsense is all the regular folks, the victims of their con....who *also* go to prison. And lose homes. And lose jobs because they bought into pseudo-legal nonsense shilled by these conmen.

You think it was just Benson that went to prison when his 'Law that never was' nonsense collapsed?

Of course not.

You think it was just Hendrickson who went to prison when his 'Cracking the Code' idiocy was predictably revealed to be another tax con?

Of course not.

You think it was just Schiff that went to prison when his tax avoidance cons were revealed?

Of course not.

And the victims of these cons are the people I care about. And the reason I bother to spend the time offering the *actual* case law rather than whatever pseudo-legal babble the shills have imagined. Well that and the fact that like shredding silly conspiracies.
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Still no call the IRS, shill? Still on with your incessant repeating the same lines over and over...

And people are still getting full refunds plus interest from the IRS, defeating account levies and stopping the IRS cold with demand for lawful money per 12 USC 411.

Every single one of the people who the SHILL brings up was an endorser of the FED via banking contracts and naked endorsement of their pay checks.

Call the IRS and report me, actions speak louder than your repeating the same crap lies over and over on GLP.

Do something about it!!

DEMAND IS MADE FOR LAWFUL MONEY PER 12 USC 411.
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Shill, you are a coward and you got nothing. You really expect anyone to believe in today's world, the IRS could not find me because of "anonymous coward" status on GLP??!??!!

Even from you that is a weak bunch of Crap.

Oh, and I do not buy for one second you give a cold piss about the poor victims of my tax scam.

Your words are meaningless, you will not even make an anonymous call or report to the IRS enforcers to shut me up!!

Weak, very weak.

I have done what I have done, you have posted page after page of the same shit and will DO NOTHING, because you are full of shit and you know nothing will come of it.

Prove me wrong you pathetic SHILL.

DEMAND IS MADE FOR LAWFUL MONEY PER 12 USC 411.
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My demands are a matter of public record and have been recorded here as well.

Bring it on, Shill, let's see what you and your all mighty government/IRS can do to stop me.

Open invitation, all rights reserved and lawful money demanded.
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[link to savingtosuitorsclub.net]

There is just one example of what is being accomplished, there are others.
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By the way, another LIE told by the shill: I have never received one dollar for explaining lawful money redemption to anyone, in any form.

Nor have I ever paid anything for the information posted here nor have I ever received goods or services of any kind for it.

So his bullshit claim I am scamming people out of money for this is another outright LIE.

Now, how much are YOU getting paid to be here SHILL?

You still refuse to post what you do for your elastic money and overlords at the Federal Government. You claim I am the one scamming people and yet you have not posted what YOU do for your taxable income.

Go back to your den of thieves and whited vessels full of death and decay inside.
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[link to savingtosuitorsclub.net]

There is just one example of what is being accomplished, there are others.
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The results ^^^^^
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Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul
Still no call the IRS, shill? Still on with your incessant repeating the same lines over and over...
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You mean *actual* caselaw instead of just your imagination? Um, yeah.

Still can't cite *any* law that says that demanding lawful money makes you immune to taxation, can you? Still can't show us a single court ruling that says this either, can you?

Its just you, citing yourself.

And if you're so confident in your argument, 'Anonymous Coward', why don't you make the call yourself? You could have your trial. You could prove to the world this vast loophole, and that whatever you make up is the law.

But you don't. Why is that? And while you insist that the folks you're shilling your latest tax con use their real names......you continue to go anonymously.

Which speaks volumes.

And people are still getting full refunds plus interest from the IRS, defeating account levies and stopping the IRS cold with demand for lawful money per 12 USC 411.
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A couple of years back the Lost Horizon's folks said the *exact* same thing. That they had found a 'too-good-to-be-true' loophole. They shilled their website, just like you are now. They tried to drive up advertising revenue....just like you are now.

For a while, anyway. Until the indictments came. Until people started going to prison, losing wages and losing homes.

Just as the Browns did before them. And Schiff did before the Browns. And Benson did before Schiff. But *this* time, its different, huh?

You're like some hapless soul who has jumped from the top of a tall building and insists that he's 'immune to gravity' because he hasn't hit the ground yet.

DEMAND IS MADE FOR LAWFUL MONEY PER 12 USC 411.
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And get FRNs in return. Just like Mobley Milam did 40 years ago.
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Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul
Reporting the same shit over and over does not make it true, AGENT.

Why don't you go to your boss and tell them we are not going to stop and you are just bringing more attention to the thread because you keep bumping it.

Propaganda 101, keep telling the same lie over and over and ignore the facts and results.

Get paid by the word or by the post, SHILL?
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Again folks, people have been doing this for over a decade and never a word of protest nor court action from the IRS.

I have already shown that endorsement is the taxable event. The shill keeps ignoring the FACT 12 USC 411 is standing law. He then claims that because it was written in 1917, it no longer applies today.

He is a liar and he knows it.

There's no way he is not getting paid to be here. Nor has he ever denied it, not that it would matter, lairs lie.
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Reporting the same shit over and over does not make it true, AGENT.
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Laughing...so now I'm an 'agent'. Anyone who doesn't ape your conspiracy must be part of it, eh?

And I'm simply quoting the cases.

Appellant has filed a substantial brief and an adequate reply brief and has argued his full share of allotted time in support for a demand that his $50.00 Federal Reserve Bank Note be redeemed in "lawful money" of the United States, which he says, in effect, must be gold or silver. Appellant refused appellees' tender of an equivalent value in Federal Reserve Notes.
 Quoting: Milam v. US


Milam demanded redemption of FRNs under Title 12 USC 4121. He got FRNs.

You say 'uh-uh'. The court says differently.

Defendant received Federal Reserve Notes when he cashed his pay checks and used those notes to pay his personal expenses. He obtained and used lawful money.
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FRNs are lawful money. You say 'uh-uh'. The courts say differently. Twice.

The world doesn't disappear just because you close your eyes, sunshine.

And in the meantime you've fled *every* time I've asked you to show me the law or court case that says that FRNs must be redeemed in US notes.....you flee.

Everytime I've asked you to show us the law or court cases that says

Keep running.


Get paid by the word or by the post, SHILL?
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Laughing...I debunk your nonsense for free, my friend. The only one selling something here is you....shilling your website, trying to drive up webtraffic in your latest 'too-good-to-be-true' tax con.

And oh, the bitterness you spew when called on your con.
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Again folks, people have been doing this for over a decade and never a word of protest nor court action from the IRS.

I have already shown that endorsement is the taxable event. The shill keeps ignoring the FACT 12 USC 411 is standing law. He then claims that because it was written in 1917, it no longer applies today.
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More accurately, I've said that since Congress expanded the role of the FRN in 1933 with *this* law:

United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.
 Quoting: 31 USC § 5103


That FRNs were promoted to national currency. And with it, lawful money.

You know...the law that you definitely know about, but *really* hope we don't? And now for the next big reveal: that you're just making up your claims as you go along. Let me demonstrate;

Show us the any law or any court case that says that you have to give US Notes in redemption for FRNs.

....and nothing.

Show us any law or court case that says that 'demanding lawful money' makes you exempt from taxation.


......and again nothing.

Its just you citing yourself. Pretending that anything you imagine must be the law.

There's no way he is not getting paid to be here. Nor has he ever denied it, not that it would matter, lairs lie.
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Says the guy shilling a website. Dude, your marketing plan has been exposed. I predicted you were a shill for another website days ago.

And you've proven me right yet again, desperately scrambling to drive up webtraffic. What, ad revenues were down? Or like Hendricksen and his 'lost horizons' website, are the legal fees starting pile up?
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Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul
More walls of text from the Shill.

Who is paying YOU?
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And I am not your "friend" Agent.

Nor are you some saint here to protect anyone but yourself and the Fed/IRS who has deceived everyone into endorsing the FIAT money scam of fractional reserves and unbacked international banking cartels.

The blood on your thieving hands and the lies from your forked tongue will someday be returned to you 10 fold. Maybe, not my place to judge, Agent.
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Still no call to your all mighty law enforcement revenue agents, shill?

What's the issue?

You got nothing and you know it.
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More walls of text from the Shill.

Who is paying YOU?
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As I've told you already, I'm doing this for free, Shill.

Where as you're scrambling to drive webstraffic to your latest tax con site? What, is ad revenue down? Or like Hendricksen, are the legal bills starting to pile up?

And I'll make it easy for you:

Show us the law or court ruling that states that demanding 'lawful money' makes you immune from taxation.

Show us the law or court ruling that states that US Notes must be offered in redemption for FRNs under Title 12 USC 411.

Short enough for you? You'll ignore it just the same....

.....as you're only quoting yourself.
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And I am not your "friend" Agent.

Nor are you some saint here to protect anyone but yourself and the Fed/IRS who has deceived everyone into endorsing the FIAT money scam of fractional reserves and unbacked international banking cartels.
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Ah, the conspiracy just keeps getting more and more elaborate. Dude, you citing you isn't a legal argument. You backing your imagination with batshyte isn't a legal argument.

You're just quoting yourself, offering us a conspiracy backed by a conspiracy, wrapped in you imagining that whatever you invent must be law.

Its not. You're not.

The blood on your thieving hands and the lies from your forked tongue will someday be returned to you 10 fold. Maybe, not my place to judge, Agent.
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My conscience is clean, Shill. You're the one trying desperately to get folks to buy into your latest tax con, scrambling to drive up web traffic to your site. And if these folks go to jail, what does it matter to you? You bumped your ad revenue. You hit your marketing projections. These folks mean nothing to you.

Well they mean something to me. And I'll keep quoting the case law, keep quoting the courts *explicitly* contradicting your conman bullshyte, keep pointing out that you still can't quote any law or any court ruling that says that demanding lawful money makes you immune from taxes.

Its just you...citing you. And you don't know what you're talking about.
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12 USC 411:

FRNs...SHALL BE REDEEMED IN LAWFUL MONEY ON DEMAND.

The shill cannot handle it!!
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[link to savingtosuitorsclub.net]

There is just one example of what is being accomplished, there are others.
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Results!!

Call the IRS shilltard!

The IRS has been honoring lawful money demand in some cases for over a decade!

I am going on 6 years now!! Bring it on shilltard!!
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12 USC 411:

FRNs...SHALL BE REDEEMED IN LAWFUL MONEY ON DEMAND.

The shill cannot handle it!!
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Title 12, USC 411 never says anything about US Notes. Title 12, USC 411 never says that demanding lawful money makes you exempt from taxes.

You do. Citing yourself as the law. And you're nobody.

Show us the law indicating that FRNs must be redeemed for ONLY US Notes.

Show us the law that indicates that demanding 'lawful money' makes you exempt from income taxes.

You can't. Keep running.
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The IRS is the one who will have to settle this, you are not the authority in income tax matters. The IRS continues to issue full returns to those demanding lawful money, till that changes or until one of us is charged with a crime, there is nothing more to talk about.

Call the IRS and complain to them for issuing returns and not prosecuting those of us who are demanding lawful money per 12 USC 411.

You can think you are right all you want and I get to keep what I earn as I have for the past 6 years.

No income tax=what I got.

Posts on GLP=what you got.
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"SHALL BE REDEEMED FOR LAWFUL MONEY ON DEMAND"

12 USC 411.
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Question:

Doing the "redeem for lawful money" gets rid of the taxes but what about Social Security and Medicaid?

Also: is it still necessary to file a tax return?
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The IRS is the one who will have to settle this, you are not the authority in income tax matters. The IRS continues to issue full returns to those demanding lawful money, till that changes or until one of us is charged with a crime, there is nothing more to talk about.
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Then show us any IRS regulation that says that demanding lawful money makes you immune from taxation.

Show us any law that says that demanding lawful money makes you immune from taxation.

Show us any court ruling that says that demanding lawful money makes you immune from taxation.


There isn't any. You've made your entire argument up, citing only yourself.

Where the courts have *explicitly* contradicted you.

And in any battle between you and the courts on the definition of legal terms, the courts win.

You can think you are right all you want and I get to keep what I earn as I have for the past 6 years.
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Uh-huh. Irwin Schiff filed fraudulent returns for 7 before he was caught. Hendricks, for 9 years. Ed and Elaine Brown, 10 years.

And they said exactly what you're saying now: that they were immune from taxation. Until the indictments came. And the prison time was sentenced. And the houses were lost.

You're like some hapless soul that has jumped from the top of a tall building and insists that he's 'immune to gravity' because he hasn't hit the ground yet.





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