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Message Subject Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul
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Thread: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

Here is how to crash the Federal Reserve. You have the power to end it now.


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In This series of videos it explains the federal reserve. How it was set up and how a small group of ordinary citizens can bring it down (video 3)If you are serious about ending the fed at least watch video 3. Its all very simple and sites the laws and how they force you into the IRS system of slavery. rken.

Trinity and Mods please pin this if you are serious about changing the country and becoming free from the FED.
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"Demand and record your demand for lawful money and there is nothing to bring charges for.

"Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank."



From: [link to www.law.cornell.edu]

It is their law, after all. What can they do if you have demanded and redeemed your Federal Reserve Credit for lawful money?

There nothing they can do and you will never get in front of a Judge or a Jury, because the remedy is in the law."


PLEASE NOTICE:

Your local banks nor the Federal Reserve main banks will give you anything but FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES, so do not ask! You do not need anything else!!

[link to ustreas.gov (secure)]

Both United States Notes and Federal Reserve Notes are parts of our national currency and both are legal tender. They circulate as money in the same way. However, the issuing authority for them comes from different statutes. United States Notes were redeemable in gold until 1933, when the United States abandoned the gold standard. Since then, both currencies have served essentially the same purpose, and have had the same value. Because United States Notes serve no function that is not already adequately served by Federal Reserve Notes, their issuance was discontinued, and none have been placed in to circulation since January 21, 1971."

Federal Reserve notes are, UPON DEMAND, lawful money. The banks now do all of the exchanging and crediting of accounts being redeemed in lawful money in house.

They will not give you US Bank notes, they cannot, it is against the law for them to deal in them.

Nor will they accept deposits of Gold coins for the same reason.

IT IS YOUR DEMAND THAT MAKES THE TRANSITION from Federal Reserve Credit/debt to LAWFUL MONEY because you act as one of the PEOPLE when you do it, not as a US Corporate US Citizen.


You sign all of your deposit slips and checks like this:

"Deposit for credit on account or exchange for non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value."

By: Your signature DBA ALL CAPS NAME

Most people just get a stamp made (without the signature, of course and stamp the checks and deposit slips. The bank calls them "restricted endorsements".

The banks will not like this, because they cannot fractional-ise the deposit amount. But that is all in house and has nothing to do with your demand.

Some people keep a copy of all checks and deposits or the bank will sometimes send them back. ATMS now give a copy of the check, front and back, so you can keep that as your record.

You sign all of your deposit slips and checks like this:

"Deposit for credit on account or exchange for non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value."

By: Your signature DBA ALL CAPS NAME

Most people just get a stamp made (without the signature, of course and stamp the checks and deposit slips. The bank calls them "restricted endorsements".

The banks will not like this, because they cannot fractional-ise the deposit amount. But that is all in house and has nothing to do with your demand.

Some people keep a copy of all checks and deposits or the bank will sometimes send them back. ATMS now give a copy of the check, front and back, so you can keep that as your record.

People have been doing this since 1933 (actually, this has been an issue since the civil war), most of the time, they would just exchange the FRNs for US Bank Notes, but that changed in 1977.

Now, the FRN serves as US Bank notes and the Bank does an accounting of all Lawful money transactions.

As for the IRS, one could file for a full refund or, after a year of redeeming lawful money, do a ZERO withholding on the employers W-4.

Then, when you file a 1040, you simply have ZERO taxable income, but you must redeem lawful money for a full year before doing that.

The IRS has the right to contact you and you must provide your proof that you have been redeeming lawful money with your demands.

As for direct deposit, change your signature card as directed above, or send a notarized letter to your bank that all withdrawals or deposits on account XXXXXX-XXXXXX
are for credit on account or exchanged for lawful money in the form of Non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value.

Send it Registered mail to your bank

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"Do not use their product, demand lawful money of the united States at your bank in the form of redeemed Federal Reserve Notes and you do not owe them a fee.

NOTICE: FRNs serve as lawful money UPON DEMAND, the bank will not give you any other kind of money (US Bank Notes, Gold or silver Certificates or stamps or uS Postal money orders, so do not ask) many have tried.

Since the late 1970s, the banks do not circulate US Bank notes (with red seals and serial numbers) Federal reserve notes serve just fine, once the demand is recorded on all deposits and withdrawals, its all the proof you will need.

They might, until they call their legal department, then they will be all smiles and sweet the next time. Been there, done that.

They have no choice, you really think the bank is going to violate the agreement the Federal Reserve has with congress? Its all about the money, folks, use it to your advantage.

Thank You! I've been looking into this for some time. I had a bit of a rough time with the IRS and want to be free of them, but I thought it wise to be square with them before starting this tactic. As of this years 1040, I'll be square. I want to start doing this immediately, but because of my past issues with the IRS, I definitely want to be sure I have recourse if and when they come after me again. I think I'll make a trip to my local IRS office and ask some questions about this technique. I will bookmark this thread and post whatever info (if any) I'm able to glean from the evil bastards.

Remember, ignorance of the law is not a defense. The IRS is a collection agency for the Fed. If you used their product, unredeemed Federal Reserve Notes, you owe them a fee.

Get square with them, you can negotiate with them once they know you are willing and have to pay them something, then start living lawfully.

When one obeys the law, the law is there to protect them.

The Constitution clearly spells out what is Lawful money, once you live by the law of the land (the Constitution) by redeeming lawful money, you get the benefits of the protection of the Law of the land.

That means you actually PAY FOR WHAT YOU BUY. Land, products, etc.

There is much more to this than just income tax.

*Without prejudice*

Operative word here is contractual. End the contract. Use lawful money. You currently have a contract will the FED to pay income tax for using their money. End the contracts you have to pay them to use their money. Its Over. Rken

With any big purchase, I would either use lawful money and have the receipt reflect that fact (US postal money orders are lawful money too, and can be bought with lawful money to prove ownership).

In contracts, simply make it a matter of the contract that all sums will be paid or collected in lawful money, there is your demand.

Credit cards are private contracts, the credit card company will not care if the money you pay them is lawful or not, they accept legal tender.

Have you never wondered why a $5000 dollar credit card or credit line is not reported on your tax return as taxable income?

Ask yourself "Where did this credit come from?" If it did not come from the Federal Reserve, it is not taxable, right?

If I find a Federal Reserve BILL on the ground, it is lawful money the second I pick it up. I will even write ON THE BACK of the BILL "LAWFUL MONEY PER 12-USC-411" to record my demand.


They will have to change the Constitution to do it, so we will know if it happens.

Congress only has the power to coin money, that is why they have to have the Federal Reserve issue fiat currency (legal tender).

They may circumvent the law, with your endorsement (as one of the people) but they cannot make you a party to it without your consent, which you give with your endorsement.

Do it yourself and be the proof, there has never been a case with the IRS, so there is no court rulings on the matter.

Some people are doing this and still paying income tax by choice, but at least they now have a choice.

BTW, this does not work for Corporate income, which is usually taxable income.

If some lawyer type could research this case, we could probably learn a lot from it.

United States v. Rickman, 638 F.2d 182, 184 (10 th Cir. 1980) - The court affirmed the conviction for willfully failing to file a return and rejected the taxpayer's argument that "the Federal Reserve Notes in which he was paid were not lawful money within the meaning of Art. 1, § 8, United States Constitution."

If some lawyer type could research this case, we could probably learn a lot from it.

United States v. Rickman, 638 F.2d 182, 184 (10 th Cir. 1980) - The court affirmed the conviction for willfully failing to file a return and rejected the taxpayer's argument that "the Federal Reserve Notes in which he was paid were not lawful money within the meaning of Art. 1, § 8, United States Constitution."
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That's right, all he had to do was demand his lawful money (which he did not do in that case) and those notes would have become "lawful money".

Just because they are not lawful money does not mean they are not redeemable for lawful money upon demand.

I have already said, his power to contract has nothing to do with the lawful money meaning of Art. 1, sub-chapter 8 of the constitution.

He used the product of the Federal Reserve, the question before the court was not "Was the product of the Federal Reserve lawful money." It was a simple question of "did he use the product or not?"

Clearly, he did, so he owed them a fee for it.

Was there a question in your post

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Here is another link to the video, uncut.

[link to video.google.com]

Again, thanks David, for all the work.
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You got it exactly. The Government knows that FRNs are not lawful money (according to the Constitution) but in effect, we make it lawful by using it (acceptance makes contract and law) that is why they have ruled over and over they are "legal tender" and have never changed the original Title 12 to say they cannot or will not be redeemed for "lawful money".

They have to provide you and I a way to obey and uphold the law (the Constitution) by redeeming lawful money upon demand.

The physical changing of one form of money to another is, under title 12, to be done at the Treasury or at any Federal reserve bank, so let them take care of it.

It is the demand and record of it that binds the courts, the banks, the Federal Reserve and the IRS to the law.

The IRS has the right to access records for any bank account into which more than $1000 is deposited in a year.

So what happens when they look at a personal account and they see nothing but restricted endorsements and demands for lawful money for each deposit and withdrawal?

Remember, the banks have the legal right to fraction deposits, which means for each $1 they get, they can now loan $1. (there is a ZERO reserve now, since the bailout).

When you "deposit for credit on account or exchange for Non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value" you limit the amount of the deposit for face value.

The bank cannot fractionalize the deposit amount. Nor can the elastic nature of Negotiable FRNs be used. Negotiable meaning no set value and depending on market forces.

A non-negotiable FRN is face value, because the value is 1=1. There is no interest bearing debt attached to the deposit, anything paid for with lawful money does not pass onto the National Debt+interest.

That big clock in times square does not go up with every transaction with lawful money, in fact, the amount of lawful money transacted lowers the National debt at a ratio of 1=1.

The debt is paid and the product or service is then owned by the payer and cannot be used as or seized to "pay the national debt", it is owned in allodium.


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Link to the video so it is easy to find.

[link to video.google.com]

Everyone would do well just to learn how to restrict their signature per the Uniform Commercial Code.

As a people, we have gown lax in controlling the power of our sig-natures.

"without prejudice" from UCC 1-207.

The Uniform Commercial Code is the law regulating contracts for every nation, country or corporation which has the right and access to international and national banking. It was written by a private company in Italy and member countries and international corporations use it to regulate contracts. Anytime you sign your name to a Corporation Document, I would sign "without prejudice" above my signature.

The State you live in has its own UCC and it can usually be found on your Secretary of States' webpage.

For more info:
[link to www.landrights.com]

Verify all code numbers with your state or Federal UCC, yes, the Federal Government has its own UCC.
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Federal Reserve Act - Remedy

How to bet them at their own game. The laws and how they apply. rken
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Naturally this is not as damaging to the FED but,

If American currency is N/A, a different way to isolate the Federal Reserve is to use gold, silver and barter. Written receipts stating that the transaction took place using gold, silver or barter (signed by both parties) would be needed. Naturally you can't mail gold, silver or barter, so you would need to buy a US postal money order and NOT A USPS money order. United States Postal Service is not the same as United States Post office. USPS is a private company too! You need to find an official US post office and use their MOs.

Question??

Aside from Gold, silver eagle type coins, what exactly is American currency? Those coins not only have gold and silver content value, but commemorative value as well. So, to get a $50 gold eagle, are they made any longer? The older ones can be worth up to $30,000. I'll have to check it out. Really curious what American currency is and who has it.

very cool thread
 
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