Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

Then just quote the law or court ruling that says that if you demand lawful money you don't have to pay taxes.

The pdf you just linked to never did. Edwin Vieir cited HIMSELF, just as you're doing now. He cites no law nor court ruling that has ever said this.

And neither your imagination nor Eddy's are legally binding or create *any* obligation on the part of the treasury, the Fed, Congress or anyone else.

If you want to make a legal argument, show us the law or any court ruling that says that if you demand lawful money, you don't have to pay taxes.

You can't. You're done.

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Read it if you can before the shill hides is among his swine shit, trying to cover pearls.

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I am done with YOU but I am far from DONE.

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It gives history and many cases not you citing you.

Fuckwit.

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Then quote the law or court ruling that recognizes that capitalization is legally significant. Or that your bizarro version of 'capitus diminutio' is in force in the US.

You can't. Just like you can't back any of your inane babble about 'redemption' with an actual citation or the law or court ruling that says if you demand lawful money, you don't have to pay taxes.

You citing you means nothing. And in case you want to cite yourself again, remember...you citing you means nothing.

And you citing you is all you have.

The federal judiciary has already recognized congressional authority to issue paper money under the constitution. And the federal judiciary has already recognized that the issuance of Federal Reserve Notes under this Congressional authority.



You say 'uh-huh'. And so what? You're nobody.

The courts are authoritative. You and Eddy aren't.

You lose again, Shill.

You don't get it, friend. Your participation is irrelevant. If you respond to my posts, if you don't....I still post the evidence that obliterates your claims.

As I just did above :)




And yet not one case or law that says if you demand lawful money you're exempt from taxation. Not one that has found that FRNs are unconstitutional. In both instances, its just you and Eddy citing yourselves. Which means absolutely nothing.

Where I've cited the judiciary *explicitly* contradicting you. Holding that congress has the authority issue paper money under the constitution. And that FRNs are issued using that constitutional authority.

Obliterating your entire argument.

You lose again, Shill.

You're confused. I've said that Roman law is not our law. And that Latin doesn't even have a lower case. Making your 'lower case, upper case' argument both silly and legally baseless.




If capitalization has any relevance to our laws, then it should be remarkably easy for you to show us the law in the USC that says this. Or failing that, show us any court case that indicates as much.

You can't. There is no such law. There is no such court case. Once again, you're imagined it. And then laughably presented your imagination as the law.

Its not.

Can all you "lawful moneytards" please be sure to check in from the library after you lose everything to the IRS?

"Shall be redeemed on demand for lawful money"

"DEMAND IS MADE FOR LAWFUL MONEY PER 12 USC 411"

The shill is not my boss, my owner not my redeemer. I will continue to handle my own affairs however I see fit and there is not shit he can do about it.

The following quote from --> [link to savingtosuitorsclub.net]

By making your demand for lawful money, you are changing the terms of the contract with the Federal Reserve. When FDR committed the resources of the US government, and the assets and future labor of the debt serfs who use debt money, he was acting as the CEO of the corporate US government, which only has jurisdiction over DC and 14th Amendment citizens. If you include in your demand to redeem your assets in the trust, you are removing the lien established by the use of debt money. Since the trust only has validity when it has assets in it, and the trust can only exist on the presumption that you are dead, by making the claim you collapse the trust and take title to your estate. See the amendments to the Cestui que Vie Act by Charles the II in 1666. Then by registering your legal name as a dba with any Secretary of any state, you remove your assets from 'within the US.' Now you have rebutted the assumption that you want to deal in private money, the presumption that you are acting as a bank and are thus incurring the obligation to file a tax return and pay taxes on the use of this private money, and the presumption that you are in contract with the Federal Reserve, and thus an employee (read as tax slave) of the US government. You now have legal title to your name, and to the assets in your estate, and to the fruits of your labor, and you have no trust in the US government. And by now being legally domiciled in a state, you are 'without the US' and thus not a 14th Amendment citizen with privileges instead of rights. The issue of trustee de son tort does not arise when you own your legal name, as there is no trust, there are only contracts, and these you can refuse. And there is no tort, as the US government does not control the territory of the 50 states, so the usufructuary does not extend to the physical world of America.

The distinction here is important: the United States of America is a constitutional republic; the US government is a corporation under Roman law. In the republic you have unalienable rights; in the US you have privileges. It is better for you to get out of the US and into America.

Bump for real results...

Since the IRS is takin care of the new health care system, maybe those demanding redemption per 12 USC 411 are exempt from that as well?

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Hmmmm....

Shillery Clinton got shut down by the controllers!!

Thread is quiet without the paid help. I wonder what memo or conversation was like when they shut him down?

"We have other priorities, keep away from the lawful money redemption threads, they are causing too much attention to the subject, google shows too much activity..."

Shut down shill!!

Freedom bump!

The process server new suitors typically use (Maryland) for service on the current US Governor of the IMF (Secretary) has been getting flack from the DoJ. They are going about some strange gyrations about that the Mail Room at the Treasury will only serve Jacob Joseph LEW as Secretary of the Treasury and not as an individual. [Funny - the DoJ feels they are in legal authority to judge the Libel of Review a Bivens Action?] They do this without any mention of LEW as US Governor for the IMF but have actually coerced the process server into trying to command the new suitor to file worthless process instead, even replacing the former Proof of Service with a non-specific description that is invalid.

This is of course Tampering with a Witness or Victim and is a felony in the federal jurisdiction as well as in any state. We have corrected this with a Criminal Complaint against the DoJ but cannot of course get a federal judge to co-sign and begin action. However I hear word from a new suitor that the process server has acquired a second address for LEW as the US Governor for the IMF.

I am waiting for that address but you might accept it as a wonderful rumor at this point.

It is very amusing how when these protectionist agencies struggle against the truth and public trust, if you have some keys to unlock the conditioning (mysteries) the truth shines through in short order.


Regards,

David Merrill.



P.S. You can always find these things in more detail and even contact me about becoming a suitor at:

www.savingtosuitorsclub.net

Did they file charges against the DOJ?

100% Correct!!!!!!!!!!

EXCELLENT EXPLANATION HERE!

Lawful Money the united States IS THE FUCKING KEY to this!



Some thoughts I've had upon re-watching:

07:40 check is an IOU depositing a check is a loan?

09:32 this is why we are experiancing delfation because the banks are not making loans anymore causing
the currency supply to dry up as bills/taxes/interest are paid.

10:00 this bank loaning process also operates in reverse when loans go bad the banks no must find 10 dollars
in new deposits or assets for every 1 dollar it lent or its balence sheet collapses and the FDIC closes the
bank.

10:30 He leaves out something...what about coinage? Is it not also part of the money supply? Who issues that?

11:00 However the use of that currency is VOLUNTARY.

11:30 The use of that currency is optional but if you choose to use it then you have just participated in
a taxable activity via the excise tax statutes/regulations and indirect taxing clause of the constitution.

11:57 True, but why? Because the majority of the money in use was issued directly by the US Treasury.
Gold and Silver Coin, Gold and Silver certificates and United States Notes (greenbacks). Some currency
was issued by the national banks called National Bank Notes.

12:06 NOT TRUE, the congress could tax as income bank credit not issued under the authority of Congress all
along. They did it in the civil war. The purpose of the income tax amendment was to tax income derived
(seperated) from any source whatever. Stated differently income seperated from property (rent, dividends, gains
and profits)

14:00 This is called deflation

15:57 NOT TRUE. This only applies to the states not the federal government.

17:50 and foreign banks

19:19 Or other suckers around the world exporting inflation.

19:37 Physical currency springs into exsistance when the Bureau of engraving and printing prints and
ships currency to the Fed for the cost of printing it and who then gives it to the banks..The majority of the
"currency" is in a computer as 1's and 0's.

18:53 - 21:30 Where do coins minted by the treasury fit into this picture? They start at the mint via the
treasury to the Federal reserve to the banks to you. No bonds are created to facilitate the minting of coins
to my knowledge.

23:30 Use their poison and get what you deserve.

23:44 ABSOLUTLY FALSE! They are not unconstitutional.

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Does anyone know if one demands lawful money for a business dba still have effect? It's a new business and have an EIN so would that change the effect? ANYONE?

Hey bring this back ya'll I gotta open an account today so what exactly do I write on my signature card?

Here is a really good complilation of the differences between lawful money ie public money and Federal reserve notes ie. private money and one private money creates a tax libility.

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Last Edited by talkstory on 10/30/2013 03:19 PM

I simple wrote a letter to effect that all transactions through my account where to be conducted in redeem federal reserve notes Pursuant to Title 12 USC §411. took it to a teller and had her sign and date stamp it. Left them a copy. You do not need their permission to redeem FRN's. Its you demand that counts. Read the snip below from page one.

Redeemed in Lawful money
Pursuant to Title 12 USC §411
True name dba Legal name
I have a red ink stamp. Your true name is your first and middle, your “legal name” is “FIRST LAST”. Look at your drivers license. Wonder why your name is in ALL CAPS? Same on your birth certificate. Same on any notice from a court. That’s your legal name, a trust formed by the government in order to do business with you and on you.
Make copies of all your checks (front and back) with your restricted endorsement. Keep them on file, or even better, file them in a case jacket at your nearest district court. This is what all the IRS will be required to see. Lawful money is not taxable income. You have not endorsed private credit, you have not bonded your substance to the contract with the Federal Reserve.
Those who demand lawful money rather than engage in signature endorsed contract with the FED, in their own right and by the operation of law found at §16 of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 now codified at Title 12 U.S.C. §411 which is binding law upon the IRS, and any other United States claiming entity, to accept and recognize the non-taxable nature of lawful money of exchange.

For the record has anyone been convicted with this strategy?

Yes, the entire Federal Government, the Federal Reserve Bank and several court judges. I, on the other hand will celebrate another year of demanding lawful money and ZERO withheld taxes paid or owed.

Are you serious?