The World at War, Official 2011 war thread for North Korea, Iran, Israel, China, U.S.

Resistance is futile.

Last Edited by Revbo™ on 12/09/2011 02:55 PM

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An Israeli tank shell hits the northern Gaza Strip amid intensifying attacks by Israeli troops against Palestinians, witnesses say.

Iran summons Afghanistan envoy after US drone violates airspace

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Al hands can stand down for a little while longer, get stocked up and prepare for near Christmas as that is the next doom week.

It is finally out in the news that Syria has its long-range missiles loaded with Sarin.
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More concern is that Assad could be out in weeks. Before he is out, he will launch his missiles.

This will be a December to remember.

More doom, Lebanese Woman Wounded by Katyusha Fired at Israel

A Lebanese woman was wounded overnight Sunday by a Katyusha missile that was likely fired at Israel.

The Katyusha exploded in the Lebanese village Hula, located about two kilometers from Lebanon’s border with Israel.
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MM says that this may mean doom is coming sooner than on thinks. Missiles flying in the north and south spells utter doom.

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Pakistan to down American drones, US promises more strikes

The Pakistani military are under orders to take down any UAV they locate in the country’s air space. So far, the only drones making incursions into Pakistani skies have been US Predators used to attack Taliban insurgents.
In a speech to troops on the border, Pakistan’s Chief General Ashfaq Pervez Kiani told them to use all means at their disposal to give a “shattering answer” to any aggression – whatever the price or consequences.

For his part, the Commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, American General John R. Allen, said he did not rule out the possibility of a repeat of last month’s NATO strike on Pakistani soldiers.

Let’s see, what is up today in the MiddleEast. First, another mystery explosion in Iran, this time in a metal plant used to make more uranium enrichment vacuums. Some foreign workers were said to be killed too. Later, a katyusha was fired from Lebanon, but the missile landed in Lebanon. Iran too is now announcing that its military will practice closing the straight of Hormuz where 40% of the World’s oil passes. With each attack on Iran, the chances of the war going hot are increasing. Further, if the cold war does not stop Iran sufficiently in the coming two weeks, Israel will be forced to take out Iran during Christmas. Iran is already trying to up the ante and is warning all of its citizens to be prepared to go home, why? Cause it is going to do something such as a terror attack.
Meanwhile, Syria has loaded missiles with Sarin nerve agent. Further, Syria is collapsing more each day. It could be only weeks before Assad is killed. In the meantime, we all must be worried by the fact Assad may go down by attacking Israel.
Do not forget Hamas and issues they keep raising. They are firing more missiles into Israel. They too are trying to provoke a Holy War over Temple Mount again.
Watch things go hotter this week.

WAR IDNEX 10.7

ALSO THE WAR INDEX 10.7

Obama asks Iran to return downed U.S. surveillance droneIn press conference with Iraqi PM, U.S. President says: We have asked for it back. We'll see how the Iranians respond; Tehran cites capture as Iranian victory.

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IDF scrambles as right-wing activists seize structures near Jordan border

About 25-30 activists enter sealed-off tract of land near border holy site, say incident is message to Jordan to keep out of Temple Mount affairs.

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Really! Really? Obamah, just like you asked Iran to stop developing Nuclear Weapons and they did not stop. Just like you asked Iran to play nicely with the world, and they have not. Just like you asked Iran to stop killing its citizens, but they hav enot. Just like you asked Iran to come to the table and talk, and thye have not. Wow, Obamah, you and all of your power have yet to get Iran to do anything different than what Iran wishes to do. I ahte to burst your bubble, but I think Iran's answer will be , gert ready, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How does one say, "Piss of, Kenyan," in Persian?

I am sure they already have, but the media will not say that will they.

As night falls on Israel, it looks partly cloudy with a 40% chance of Katyushas in the north, 40% chance of mortars with isolated grads in the south and a slight chance of scuds after midnight for all regions, especially Tel Aviv.Stay Safe Israel.

Iran has indicted 15 people on charges of spying for U.S. and Israel - chief prosecutor

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Iran says US drone now its property

Tehran has refused to accede to the Obama administration’s request to return a drone downed by Iran’s military. Defense Minister Gen. Ahmad Vahidi said on Tuesday the US should apologize for invading Iranian air space instead of asking for the plane’s return. The drone is now Iran’s property, he said.

Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast said the US president has forgotten that “Iran’s airspace has been violated [and] espionage operations have been carried out.” Barack Obama said on Monday the US had asked for the aircraft to be returned.

US units exiting Iraq deployed in Jordan to forestall Syrian attack
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report December 13, 2011, 11:18 AM (GMT+02:00)
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US 1st Brigade departs Iraq

As the US completes its final withdrawal from Iraq, American special forces troops have been diverted to positions in Jordan opposite a Syrian tank concentration building up across the kingdom's northern border, debkafile's military and intelligence sources report.

As of last Thursday, Dec. 8, military convoys, air transports and helicopters have been lifting US troops across the border from Iraq. They have been deployed in position to ward off a possible Syrian invasion in the light of President Bashar Assad's warning that he would set the entire Middle East on fire if the pressure on his regime to step down persisted.

More on: [link to www.debka.com]

Not looking good at all, not looking good.

What do you mean? Can you please be more specific.

@MM,

how do you come up with the WAR INDEX? is it just based on "world at war" news/events?

what number do you think it'll have to reach to see a possible ww3 beginning, as much as i hate to think about it, i wanted to ask it :S

also, great job with the thread!

One might expect to see the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq would be back the USA itself. Nope! According to the article some of the troops are flown to bases in the Persian Gulf, others to Europe, all relatively nearby, just in case.

First, for Obamah to put troops on the ground in Jordan really indicates that the threat is as bad as I have heard about over the past few days (Obamah is not wanting another war, he does not like military force). There is a large number of tanks near the Jordanian border as well as near the Israeli border too (O needs to show some posturing in an attempt to keep Assad back). Israel does not talk about tensions and such, but this is confirmation. Top that off with offensive long-range missile units now activated and we have another nut loose who aims to act like Saddam. Assad knows that if he goes down, he can fly to Iran and live out his life.
AT the same time, he and Iran have their plan to destroy Israel. Jordan has always been friendly to Israel and Iran would love nothing better than to take out the Jordanian Monarchy. Further, this is a direct access to Jerusalem. Thus, the feint is to go into Jordan and then hit into Israel. There are too countless Islamic fanactics that have poured into Syria from Iraq and Iran who are now creating their own brigades for attack on Israel. The aim was not to go to war so soon, but Assad is feeling pressure and Iran does not want to end up loosing its deterrent nor its offensive option it has been investing in for some time.
What looks bad is that things are only ratchetting up more and more and with such dynamic motion towards war that is not being stopped, at some point it will happen.

I first want to thank those that come to this thread, I am hopeful that this is useful for many of you to gets updates as well as for any other sake that comes from it.

WAR INDEX is derived upon a former site alled the Gogindex, enough said there. It inlcudes what information is available publicly and privatelya s well as what may be known through other means. Lets just say it relies on news gathered through numerous media formats and informants.

The scale of 1-11 is where 1 is uptmost peace and 11 is regional war. Today I have added the scale to 12 where 12 is WWWIII. 11 is regional war and 10 is simply outright war be it covert or active against either terror groups or nations. Israel is invovled in skirmishes with Hamas currently as well as a covert war with the Hezbollah and Iran. Thus the scale is over 10.

Today, the scale is moving upwards but still below 11. The threat is increasing everyday on the northern front as we speak. The covert war against Israel continues, but outright war with Iran may still be put off many months. Some say Israel has given the US a hitlist of items it must have destroyed to hold back from an outright atatck and that is what is occurring behind the scenes. I seriously have doubts as the nuclear power plant should be stopped before is winds up to full-power and there is still a chance to stall out the transfer of equipment to Quom.

Syria, as I said before looks very bad.

Hezbollah are likely to shoot off more rockets.

Lets try that again (damn touchpad)

WAR INDEX 10.8

Yes, now reports leak out about the fact a metals plant in Iran just simply exploded in the past few days. Worse yet, this plant was used to make special metals for uranium enrichment. For some reason Iran has been having trouble making such metals needed. Ok, even worse off, several top North Korean nuclear weapons officials were present when the dang thing blew up. All of this has been behind the radar. Yes, it was another strike. Iran is getting mighty upset at these covert ops. North Korea is likewise getting mighty upset.
I can hear the fuse sizzling.

It is Libya all over again...

Obama, Arab allies eye no-fly zone that could ‘paralyze’ Syrian military

Special to WorldTribune.com

LONDON — The United States has drafted a plan with its Arab allies to establish a no-fly zone over Syria.

Western diplomatic sources said the administration of President Barack Obama has reached agreement with Saudi Arabia and other Arab allies to impose measures meant to topple the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

“The no-fly zone does not have to be enforced throughout Syria, only in areas used by Assad’s military,” a diplomat said.

The sources said Washington and its Arab allies have concluded that a no-fly zone would result in immediate harm to the Assad regime and military. They said the plan does not envision NATO intervention, rather flights by the Turkish Air Force along with fighter-jets from Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

More on: [link to www.worldnewstribune.com]

13:46 Arab League denies it plans to impose no-fly zone in Syria (DPA)

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did the iranian visit to saudi succeed in removing the saudis from this plan? can't imagine qatar and uae having balls to be the only arab contries in on this.

WAR INDEX lowers to 10.7

Tensions are very high, but could go higher.

Syria is the most wild-card, expect that if Assad's units keep getting hammered, he will lash out. In another week we may be surprised as to what has happenned in retrospect.

Iran, yes, they are now enriching Uranium to a much higher level underground. If only a foreign army could get their hands on this place and do what they have done elsewhere (perhaps they can). speaking of which, there is a evident plan as to the covert attacks on Iran. Taking out Long Range Missiles was a good start to prevent a backlash against Israel from the next attacks. Taking out a Hezbollah Missile Warehouse too was a good start for the same reason. Then the real hit was taking out part of the Uranium Enrichment that produced gas for use in other locations. Now taking out a metal plant ensures that once Israel hits the standing cascades that are enriching Uranium to a very high level for nukes, Iran will have a lot of work to do to re-build the cascades and without the metals, Iran will be in a crunch. This will buy Israel a few years. Wait, but what about that large bulk Uranium that has already been enriched? That too my friends is at the top of the pyramid for attack. Word is too that if the new virus does not stop the nuclear facility just fired-up, there is soon to be another un-explained explosion there too. Thus, we must wait and see how Israel achieves attacks on under-ground locations, the storage facilities, and the nuclear plant.

Watch out for Hezbollah and Syria for the next two weeks, but expect another explsoion or two in Lebanon as well as Iran in the next 7 days.