An electrifying 2011 ahead - here is your schedule according to TUN - UPDATE: New completion date introduced by Oldenkamp: 14 July, 2012

Each Tun is divided into 18 x 20 days. It is an astronomical calendar that is great for tracking the movements of the planets in our solar system FROM LATITUDES BETWEEN 15 AND 21 NORTH LATITUDE. The ha'ab, solar calendar of 365.25 days is divided into 5 seasons, which are marked by events like the equinoxes and solar transits of the local zenith and nadir. They mark the seasons as they occur in the Yucatan. These calendars were invented to follow the cycles of planets, sun and moon and the seasons on earth from those tropical latitudes. They don't fit well with locations farther north or south. The Tzolkin, 260 day cycle is merely the cycle that gave names to the days that make up the ha'ab and the tun. In TRUE Mayan lore, heaven is divided into 13 levels and the underworld into 9. This is the same throughout most of the cultures in Central and Southern Mexico, Guatemala, Belize and Honduras. There is no such thing as this "third night" bullshit. Even the names of the day symbols are wrong and mixed up with words and definitions from other non Mayan cultures. It is complete bullshit, but carry on with your ignorant doom. The Mayans laugh at people like you.

so you have the schedule but what if for some reason they found a way to hold back time?

Each Tun is divided into 18 x 20 days. It is an astronomical calendar that is great for tracking the movements of the planets in our solar system FROM LATITUDES BETWEEN 15 AND 21 NORTH LATITUDE. The ha'ab, solar calendar of 365.25 days is divided into 5 seasons, which are marked by events like the equinoxes and solar transits of the local zenith and nadir. They mark the seasons as they occur in the Yucatan. These calendars were invented to follow the cycles of planets, sun and moon and the seasons on earth from those tropical latitudes. They don't fit well with locations farther north or south. The Tzolkin, 260 day cycle is merely the cycle that gave names to the days that make up the ha'ab and the tun. In TRUE Mayan lore, heaven is divided into 13 levels and the underworld into 9. This is the same throughout most of the cultures in Central and Southern Mexico, Guatemala, Belize and Honduras. There is no such thing as this "third night" bullshit. Even the names of the day symbols are wrong and mixed up with words and definitions from other non Mayan cultures. It is complete bullshit, but carry on with your ignorant doom. The Mayans laugh at people like you.




I have a question though. Who deciphered the Maya calendars? Modern scientists or the Mayas themselves?

As far as I know, the modern Mayas themselves don't know much about their own past. Much has been lost/forgotten and perverted through spoken word/language.

I agree that they did tracks the heavens though.

No doom here anyway.

What nonsense. The Mayas today certainly know about themselves. They know their history, they still speak the language and they still observe ceremony. They know the stories and they know the riddles. There are still healers and seers in the communities that safeguard artifacts and many towns still add to the local Chilam Balam. They just don't go around mouthing off about it. They are a very discreet people. They might not use the calendar anymore because it has been replaced by the western calendar, but there are still people that know and have preserved the knowledge, and it in no way resembles what outsiders claim about the calendar. There are men and women that still erect stones with every new year, like their ancestors have done for more than a thousand years. Who says they don't know their own culture, and what makes an outsider more of an expert than the descendents of these Mayas? What they don't know is all the supposed "culture and history" erroneously attributed to them by outsiders. But I assure you that they laugh a lot at gringos that show up in their communities asking them about 2012.

so you have the schedule but what if for some reason they found a way to hold back time?

Also interesting to note: Another being said that two of our years were lost to manipulations of time.

I think this Maya dating is based on the timing measured by the measurement of our planet's slow wobble. The ancients (somehow) knew about it and measured it using what has come down to us as the zodiac signs.

It is commonly referred to as the Precession of the Equinoxes. It is a measurement of the time it takes for our planet to go in one full slow wobble circle, around 26,000 years.

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The ancients measured this using a ring of stars around this solar system; these are our zodiac constelations. Note, its a circle; its a measurement of a circle.

This is where the idea that we are switcing from pisces to aquarious comes from. Normally this switch would not happen until 2150.

The Maya, as per Jose Arguellos - and subsequently agreed on by everyone else, says it is ending earlier; ala the 2012 date. The Maya say it is ending early because of a speeding up of the process.

What nonsense. The Mayas today certainly know about themselves. They know their history, they still speak the language and they still observe ceremony. They know the stories and they know the riddles. There are still healers and seers in the communities that safeguard artifacts and many towns still add to the local Chilam Balam. They just don't go around mouthing off about it. They are a very discreet people. They might not use the calendar anymore because it has been replaced by the western calendar, but there are still people that know and have preserved the knowledge, and it in no way resembles what outsiders claim about the calendar. There are men and women that still erect stones with every new year, like their ancestors have done for more than a thousand years. Who says they don't know their own culture, and what makes an outsider more of an expert than the descendents of these Mayas? What they don't know is all the supposed "culture and history" erroneously attributed to them by outsiders. But I assure you that they laugh a lot at gringos that show up in their communities asking them about 2012.


Oh I'm sure they know their culture and history from being passed down through generations and ancestry, but do they really know what happened to their advanced civilization in the ancient times?

Greed? War? Natural disaster?

To be able to track the stars so accurately, they must have been pretty advanced, and it was so many thousands of years ago.

I simply get the idea that there is something more to it.

This switch, the Maya say it is from the 4th to the 5th sun. What is meant by that? Again, its the Precession; the circle that is measured is divided into 4 main parts, each of which is called a world. This means there are 4 worlds to each time around the circle - the slow wobble. Note it is a measurement of this plante's slow wobble; not this solar system's or the sun's. If there are 4 worlds per circle (or cycle if you will), then a switch to a 5th part is starting a new circle/cycle: the first world of a new circle.


Not only 4 worlds; but 12 zodiac signs; so each of the 4 worlds is further seperated, each having 3 zodiac signs. The ancients called each sign an Age. We are in the Age of pisces now.

Each Age, according to India lore, is marked by the manifestation of a Godlike being. Remember there are 3 Ages per world; these Ages are marked by a certain kind of manifestation; it happens the same way for each World. It goes: Destroyer, Creator, Savior, in that order

Pisces, being the last Age of the 4th World, is marked by the appearence of the Savior. This is Jesus.

Yes they do. It is part of their language. The Mayan language is full of riddles. Their civilization went underground to preserve itself in the face of foreign invasion. As I said, they are a very discreet people.

Yes they do. It is part of their language. The Mayan language is full of riddles. Their civilization went underground to preserve itself in the face of foreign invasion. As I said, they are a very discreet people.


Foreign invasion by who? The Spaniards? If so, at that time they weren't as advanced as before. Whatever happened, happened before they were invaded by the Spaniards.

Riddles can be misinterpreted, it doesn't matter what language. They thought the Spaniards were their Gods coming back for them since the "prophecies" said so.

Riddles can be misinterpreted, it doesn't matter what language. They thought the Spaniards were their Gods coming back for them since the "prophecies" said so.

This is pure bullshit. The Mayan Tun DOES track planets, especially Venus. That is what it is based on. The calendar you are referring to is called the LONG COUNT. It is a day counting mechanism for long periods of time.

Time is NOT divided into 13 portions of days and nights. The OP is full of invented bullshit that doesn't have anything to do with Mayan culture. Even the number used in the OP have zero significance in the numerology and language of the Mayas. This was written by someone who has no idea of mayan culture, no understanding of the language and no grasp of local astronomy.

PS. They never predicted doom and their calendar doesn't end. The Long Count cycle ended in 1988.

I will, but I don't have time right now, have to go out to do a job. What I can say though is that there is no need to correlate because the stones are there. I have seen them. The Mayan new year (in the Yucatan peninsula) begins on July 24, the date when the sun crosses the local zenith on it's way south. Both equinoxes, the northbound zenith transit and both solar nadirs occur on the first day of the corresponding 20 day cycles.

I will, but I don't have time right now, have to go out to do a job. What I can say though is that there is no need to correlate because the stones are there. I have seen them. The Mayan new year (in the Yucatan peninsula) begins on July 24, the date when the sun crosses the local zenith on it's way south. Both equinoxes, the northbound zenith transit and both solar nadirs occur on the first day of the corresponding 20 day cycles.

Edited to add that sometime between tonight and tomorrow I will make time to explain this. Thanks for your interest. I usually get flamed by the 2012ers for talking about what I know.

OP,

Please let us know how you or others have correlated the TUN calender with the CURRENT gregorian calender.

What method was employed to determine what 'sequence' or TUN symbol stood for TODAY'S dates on our calender?

I have asked this a 100 times to 'experts' on the Mayan calender and they can't ever give me a straight answer.

Please detail the correlation.

Thanks!

In part, yes, but more importantly, the Toltec invaders. This is when most of the knowledge and relics went underground. On the surface the local culture was diluted with Toltec tradition, but it was not lost.

so you have the schedule but what if for some reason they found a way to hold back time?


Not time, not time.

However the players have tools to regulate conciousness and even the frequency that Earth resonates to.

You resonate too you know. Fear has a specific resonance, think of it as a low vibration.

So what tools? Think HAARP, visuals & chemicals.

Where and how delivered is obvious.

The evolution of conciousness cannot be stopped, but it can be slowed down.

Obviously we were not cavemen ~10,000 years ago, otherwise whoever would have never been able to build those now underwater cities.