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Quran verses that prove Islam is Violent and Sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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a suicide bomber attacked a Christian church in the Mediterranean port city of Alexandria and killed at least 21 people as worshippers emerged from a New Year’s Day mass.

It was the deadliest attack against the country’s Christian minority in more than a decade and the latest in a wave of violence against Christians in the Middle East.

Health Ministry spokesman Abdel-Rahman Shahine said the death toll stood at 21, with 97 wounded, almost all Christians.



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And its just not Christians feeling the wrath of Islam



Targeted Killings Force Hindus to Flee Pakistan...

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For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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THE DOCTRINES OF ISLAM NEED TO BE SEEN FOR WHAT THEY ARE

ANY POLITICIONS OR RELGIOUS LEADER WHO DENIES WHAT THE KORAN SAYS
IS AS BAD AS THOSE WHO KILL IN ISLAMS NAME

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!

THE KORAN PROMOTES MURDER FULL STOP
AND EVEN OUR SO CALLED LEADERS PROMOTE THE KORAN!!!!

THEY ARE PARTY TO THAT MURDER
BY THEIR LIES
THEY GIVE SUCCUR TO THE VERY DOCTRINES THAT INSPIRE THE ENEMY OF THE FREE WORLD THAT GO AROUND MURDERING BASED ON THE WORDS OF THE HIDEIUS ANTICHRIST DOCTRINE CALLED THE KORAN

THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES
THEY SHOULD BE STOPPED
AND THIS IS HOW

BY SPEAKING THE TRUTH IN LOVE
BY THREADS SUCH AS THIS ONE


The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, most of the verses of violence in the Quran are open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history.

I have left the verses in full context so everyone can see the entire intent of the verses....

The Quran:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war, even if the historical context was not. However, there are also two worrisome pieces to this verse. The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of "persecution" (a qualification that is ambiguous at best). The second is that fighting may persist until "religion is for Allah." The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring.



Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."



Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.



Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."


Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast TERROR into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').



Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.



Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."



Quran (4:95) - ". Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (iNot equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their personsn Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).



Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?



Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"



Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.



Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."



Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah" From the historical context we know that the "persecution" spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj. Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group, since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah." According to Ibn Ishaq (324), Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that "Allah must have no rivals."



Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."



Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."



Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam. Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars.



Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."


Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad.



Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in just the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.




Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"


Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).




Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.



Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."




Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."



Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."



Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story, which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source, tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son.



Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"



Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.



Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.



Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similtudes. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners," Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."



Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you," This very important verse asserts that the Religion of Peace is not to grant peace to the broader society until Islamic rule has been established.



Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?



Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.



Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."



Quran (61:10-12) - "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity." This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.



Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.
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Nuke them all and let their gods sort them out.
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This is an anti-semite thead...

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Word appearances in Quran
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Love 64 times, in 55 verses
Hate 74 times, in 66 verses
Peace 57 times, in 53 verses
Fear 317 times, in 284 verses
Live 83 times, in 79 verses
Kill 133 times, in 100 verses
Life 225 times, in 200 verses
Death 108 times, in 99 verses
Good 492 times, in 421 verses
Evil 362 times, in 319 verses
Think 88 times, in 85 verses
Obey 176 times, in 164 verses


TOTAL Positive 1009
TOTAL Negative 1170

Verdict: Fairly Balanced
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Why don't you try posting the whole verse instead of what your find amusing?

Like how the Jews have been persecuted so now are those who follow Islam.

As an American who is neither Liberal, or Conservative. Americans as a whole is making me sick to my stomack
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Dayamn!! a few more centuries and they might be as violent and sick as Christians!!


Liberal shill!!!

How much do they pay you, shill, to forego your integrity?
 Quoting: Really? 1213362

Shills stay on target. Lets NOT pretend Muslims attacked NYC. Lets not pretend who is wagingwar on whom.
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This is an anti-semite thead...

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Let me help you out there buddy, Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is prejudice against or hostility towards Jews often rooted in hatred of their ethnic background, culture, and/or religion.

Good luck there, next time try a google search once in a while if you are not sure of what a word means when you try to use it to sound smart.
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This is a thread about the evil that is islam and how our future will be impacted by it if we do not wake up now and fight it as the evil it is.
I have promises to keep....
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Word appearances in Quran
[link to www.searchtruth.com]

Love 64 times, in 55 verses
Hate 74 times, in 66 verses
Peace 57 times, in 53 verses
Fear 317 times, in 284 verses
Live 83 times, in 79 verses
Kill 133 times, in 100 verses
Life 225 times, in 200 verses
Death 108 times, in 99 verses
Good 492 times, in 421 verses
Evil 362 times, in 319 verses
Think 88 times, in 85 verses
Obey 176 times, in 164 verses


TOTAL Positive 1009
TOTAL Negative 1170

Verdict: Fairly Balanced
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I am looking for a bible search tool that will give me word counts for these words as well so I can tally the NT (Christian faith) and the OT (Judaism) to compare. I'll probably have to open a PDF file for one of Crowley's books and the Satanic Bible to cross reference them with a word count as well. I am now curious of what the differences are, if any.
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Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned;
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Word appearances in Quran
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Love 64 times, in 55 verses
Hate 74 times, in 66 verses
Peace 57 times, in 53 verses
Fear 317 times, in 284 verses
Live 83 times, in 79 verses
Kill 133 times, in 100 verses
Life 225 times, in 200 verses
Death 108 times, in 99 verses
Good 492 times, in 421 verses
Evil 362 times, in 319 verses
Think 88 times, in 85 verses
Obey 176 times, in 164 verses


TOTAL Positive 1009
TOTAL Negative 1170

Verdict: Fairly Balanced
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Verdict: MORE VIOLENCE THAN PEACE..thanks for spending some time to validate my thread (even though you tried otherwise) I wouldnt have posted that data because if we compared it to other religions you would be astounded. Your ignorance may have opened up a can of worms you may not like. LOL
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let this pinned thread serve as a real eye-opener of the influences running GLP.

thanks for revealing your cards, shills.

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Say what you want to defend them..
I'd rather let ....them.. speak for themselves

as such.. please refer to this wonderful article by the BBC reporting on muslims protesting and burning things (again)

because the government wishes to distance itself from a law which carries mandatory death sentence to anyone who insults islam


[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

have fun
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This is a thread about the evil that is islam and how our future will be impacted by it if we do not wake up now and fight it as the evil it is.
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Amen Annie! It's time we make a stand against these slithering serpents!
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Dayamn!! a few more centuries and they might be as violent and sick as Christians!!


Liberal shill!!!

How much do they pay you, shill, to forego your integrity?

Shills stay on target. Lets NOT pretend Muslims attacked NYC. Lets not pretend who is wagingwar on whom.
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THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT MUSLIMS

IT IS ABOUT THE DOCTRINE A MUSLIM IS SUPPOED TO FOLLOW
CONTAINED FOR ALL TO SEE IN THE KORAN.
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Why don't you try posting the whole verse instead of what your find amusing?

Like how the Jews have been persecuted so now are those who follow Islam.

As an American who is neither Liberal, or Conservative. Americans as a whole is making me sick to my stomack
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I posted the entire verses and even explained that I was doing that so that no asshats like you wouldnt misinterpret the verses. Dipshit! Americans like you make me sick to my stomach, as well. Pussy!
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let this pinned thread serve as a real eye-opener of the influences running GLP.

thanks for revealing your cards, shills.


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You are the shill. I don't see you making any opposing debate.

You fail!

Next!
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Why don't you try posting the whole verse instead of what your find amusing?

Like how the Jews have been persecuted so now are those who follow Islam.

As an American who is neither Liberal, or Conservative. Americans as a whole is making me sick to my stomack


I posted the entire verses and even explained that I was doing that so that no asshats like you wouldnt misinterpret the verses. Dipshit! Americans like you make me sick to my stomach, as well. Pussy!
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OP IS YOU WANT TO WIN THIS BATTLE
FOLLOW THIS


THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT MUSLIMS

IT IS ABOUT THE DOCTRINE A MUSLIM IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW
CONTAINED FOR ALL TO SEE IN THE TEACHINGS OF THE KORAN.
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let this pinned thread serve as a real eye-opener of the influences running GLP.

thanks for revealing your cards, shills.

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pick
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isn't like this
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)



2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
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CAN A NAZI JUSTIFY HIS DOCTRINE?

LIKEWISE CAN A MUSLIM JUSTIFY HIS?


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ATTACK THE DOCTRINE
FOR IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF
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c'mon people, the Pope and his hebrew advisors wrote the Koran.

the Koran is basically the Old Testament, Kabbalah, Talmud and a little of the New Testament.

the Pope was taking heat; his empire was crumbling on all sides so he trained these camel jockeys to be assassins for him. why didn't the muslims ever attack a catholic church while in europe?

Jews created the christian religion to take the heat off them.

Cardinal Bea, the most evil, diabolical jesuit that ever lived says so and I believe him.
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let this pinned thread serve as a real eye-opener of the influences running GLP.

thanks for revealing your cards, shills.


You are the shill. I don't see you making any opposing debate.
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no opposition needed, you have already exposed yourselves. it's plain to see for anyone with the slightest grasp on reality.

again, thanks for your clumsy and revealing attempts at propaganda.

have fun with your failboat.
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Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned;
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yep...and can you find the one that recommends the cutting off of heads and the pouring of hot oil into the neck?
I have promises to keep....
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Why don't you try posting the whole verse instead of what your find amusing?

Like how the Jews have been persecuted so now are those who follow Islam.

As an American who is neither Liberal, or Conservative. Americans as a whole is making me sick to my stomack


I posted the entire verses and even explained that I was doing that so that no asshats like you wouldnt misinterpret the verses. Dipshit! Americans like you make me sick to my stomach, as well. Pussy!


OP IS YOU WANT TO WIN THIS BATTLE
FOLLOW THIS


THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT MUSLIMS

IT IS ABOUT THE DOCTRINE A MUSLIM IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW
CONTAINED FOR ALL TO SEE IN THE TEACHINGS OF THE KORAN.
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Thank you for keeping me "on point". I do appreciate that. All I did was post the actual verses from the doctrine, and I did not intend this to turn into Muslim bashing,m and that is not my intent. You are spot on... this thread is about THE DOCTRINE A MUSLIM IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW
CONTAINED FOR ALL TO SEE IN THE TEACHINGS OF THE KORAN.

Thanks for the focus!
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Why don't you try posting the whole verse instead of what your find amusing?

Like how the Jews have been persecuted so now are those who follow Islam.

As an American who is neither Liberal, or Conservative. Americans as a whole is making me sick to my stomack


I posted the entire verses and even explained that I was doing that so that no asshats like you wouldnt misinterpret the verses. Dipshit! Americans like you make me sick to my stomach, as well. Pussy!


OP IS YOU WANT TO WIN THIS BATTLE
FOLLOW THIS


THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT MUSLIMS

IT IS ABOUT THE DOCTRINE A MUSLIM IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW
CONTAINED FOR ALL TO SEE IN THE TEACHINGS OF THE KORAN.
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Unfortunately, although I agree with what your saying.. does not a person using these very verses in their daily life to shape and guide their personal values, thus bringing them to this point.. indeed make them muslim?

if you start driving a wedge between that.. this thread will turn into a shitfest about whats a real muslim and what isnt.. which is again an un-winnable battle.. this thread is about facts.. it wont be a battle won or lost
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Besides the church bombing that happened last night in Egypt that killed 21 and wounded 97,lets see what else has happened in just the last couple of weeks

Pakistan evangelist set on fire by Muslim extremists

[link to theundergroundsite.com]

ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN (BosNewsLife)-- Muslims began protests Friday, December 24, against plans to change Pakistan's blasphemy laws, after an Islamic leader offered nearly $6,000 for the killing of a Christian woman he accused of offending Islam.

[link to www.bosnewslife.com]

Catholics in Bogor (West Java) not allowed to celebrate Christmas Mass

[link to www.asianews.it]

Militants claim Christians have no right to worship

[link to www.mnnonline.org]
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Word appearances in Quran
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Love 64 times, in 55 verses
Hate 74 times, in 66 verses
Peace 57 times, in 53 verses
Fear 317 times, in 284 verses
Live 83 times, in 79 verses
Kill 133 times, in 100 verses
Life 225 times, in 200 verses
Death 108 times, in 99 verses
Good 492 times, in 421 verses
Evil 362 times, in 319 verses
Think 88 times, in 85 verses
Obey 176 times, in 164 verses


TOTAL Positive 1009
TOTAL Negative 1170

Verdict: Fairly Balanced



Verdict: MORE VIOLENCE THAN PEACE..thanks for spending some time to validate my thread (even though you tried otherwise) I wouldnt have posted that data because if we compared it to other religions you would be astounded. Your ignorance may have opened up a can of worms you may not like. LOL
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What do you mean "my ignorance?" Why do you think I am opposing your position or supporting it? I am merely conducting an experiment, pal. I'm already fairly certain of what the outcome would be if religions were compared and Satanism would probably win, but I'm just guessing on that (I really have no idea as of yet). I'd also bet that Judaism ends up with the worst score...
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Just read the old testament, and you will find the same sick shit in it. Hypocrites.





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