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Chief NOAA scientest - The North Pole is moving rapidly

 
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So because the Cletus annoyingly stepping on the video doesn't understand what the guy said, this is somehow newsworthy?
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That seems to be the case.

I think beyond tards needing to take advantage of a local Reading Is Fundamental program, they also need to access a Listening Is Fundamental program. Too bad there isn't one.

The pole shifters, who comically don't understand plainly spoken language, are now analysing the subtleties of body language.

This will, of course, go into their Encyclopedia of Pole Shift Evidence even though it laughably demonstrates only their own ignorance.

Since pole shifters obviously do not understand written or spoken words, ridicule seems the only option.

Have fun.


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LOLOOL at you ppl who think the earth will stop spinning and reverse its direction. cant even begin to describe how retarded you are
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Re: Chief NOAA scientest - The North Pole is moving rapidly
NOTHING like what you claimed in that. He's talking about what MIGHT HAPPEN if the magnetic field collapses.


You could not watch the whole 1:56 video?

He does indeed state "North Pole is moving rapidly", at 1:30

Jeebuz.
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Yep those exact words.
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Re: Chief NOAA scientest - The North Pole is moving rapidly
yes, biblical

Do you believe that such an "axis shift" and orbital change is actually happening?

Hey guess what astronuttsinurmouth, Lets say the pole is shifting. But, the physical magnitized crust pole is holding us where we are now.

What is gonna happen with the other pole moving rapidly away from the physical pole?

Is our current pole position gonna soon chase after the one moving away?

Will these two different types of poles decide to trade positions? (or should I say four poles?)

Theres a long list of arguments you always tend to stray away from .I think our problems need to be asked to a geologist. I think your usual view on the sky is gonna be changing soon when your physical pole jumps to the one moving rapidly away.
Lets be realistic here, Theres a pole moving , that is not usual.
Dont bother with your cocky self rightous remarks. Just think out the box every once and awhile. If you dont you wont see a change when it happens . Science books are rewritten all the time.
Dont be such a ass, Ive read many of your remarks , your very unkind to people who are not in your telescope club. Even when someone may not understand sky activity the way you do. Just say what youve researched in a kind way.
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he he, what a great post especially the 'telescope club' comment. lmao
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Re: Chief NOAA scientest - The North Pole is moving rapidly
err, the opening words on that vid states 3/1/2010

2010 ??
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"North Pole is moving rapidly"

Yep those exact words.
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Yep those words are not related with the physical North Pole, he is talking about the Magnetic Pole
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Astronut, are you familiar with Thomas Hancock, author of Fingerprints of the Gods.
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That would be Graham Hancock, not Thomas Hancock. You refer to the orion correlation theory. There are quite a number of problems with the orion correlation theory as it is held by Hancock, many due to precession, some due to simple spatial relationships between claimed correlations and actual positions in the sky. For instance, the theory claims a perfect match between the pyramids' angle with respect to north and Orion's belt in the year 10500 BC, but in truth precessing the constellation back to that year shows the match was anything but exact, being off by about 9 degrees if memory serves.
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Come on, give us some real proof!
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Just go outside at night and start keeping track of where Polaris is. You can prove it yourself.
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"North Pole is moving rapidly"

Yep those exact words.

Yep those words are not related with the physical North Pole, he is talking about the Magnetic Pole
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WHICH IS PRETTY BAD.
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At SOME POINT, that wobble REVERSES --
the PRECISION goes the OTHER direction.
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No, precession (NOT "precision") does not reverse direction.
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According to the Hopi, the core of our Mother the Earth is getting larger and expanding in all directions. THIS is causing all the extreme weather conditions and the magnetosphere to go haywire. Soon the core will reach a critical mass where it will be heavier than the crust and mantle. Then the core will be birthed at the Weddell Sea in Antarctica which means it will come out of the Earth. This causes both a loss of the magnetosphere around the planet and a collapse of the crust and mantle. Bye bye forth world hello fifth. However our Mother will then JUMP to the nearest empty orbit (which will be that of Venus which will have already gone INTO THE SUN on its path of spiritual evolution). Our mother will then settle into her new orbit and the fifth world will arise....

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I think he was talking about the magnetic pole shift.
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't; I specifically excluded magnetic pole shifting from my arguments in the very post he quoted when claiming I was posting "BS."
You do have to agree that the north magnetic pole rushing towards Russia is pretty amazing in of itself?
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I hate to say it but I don't find it terribly unexpected given the direction it has moved over the last century, and given that our planet's magnetic field is showing signs of precursors to a pole flip.
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Yeah, and that is what I say is totally:

Prove it's BS then! Prove my astrometry is worthless if that's really what you believe.
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right. its not you, its your tools. atrometry, like all nonphysical mathematics, cannot be used to test real life.

[link to forums.xkcd.com]

give you a good place to start.

im sorry mods if you dont want the link there, take it out, and he can get ahold of me directly.
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WHICH IS PRETTY BAD.
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Which is pretty normal, magnetic poles are always moving

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Re: Chief NOAA scientest - The North Pole is moving rapidly
astronut what's your take on the south anomaly?

Do you refer to the south atlantic anomaly?

I think he does, as it was mentioned in the vid.

Do I not recall in mid/late 2010, those in the science fields said it was growing also, as well as moving somewhat?

I see, well the south atlantic anomaly is a magnetospheric phenomenon and as such I do not contest that it could be moving. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if it was. It shows that in context he was talking about the MAGNETIC north pole, not the physical axis of rotation.
 Quoting: Astronut


and thats what everyone is supposed to be talking about when they refer to "pole shifts"

if the axis of the earth shifted every so often, this planet would not sustain life. it is precisely our axial lean that provides for our survival.

geomagnetic poles ARE shifting, and have been sort of slowly, for the past few years. notice the influx of sinkholes, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions... all indicative of the magnetospheric changes taking place.
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how do you get the chem-trails to simmer down?

What's over my head right now though is complete cloud cover, not just contrails. I keep a watchful eye on the sky and snag plenty of nights of clear weather.


It's perfectly clear here in the southeast.

It's overcast here:
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 Quoting: Astronut

Edited as read all your replies so my question is redundant. Thanks for your data.

Last Edited by Sword of mercy on 01/03/2011 05:52 PM
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Rodney Viereck
Chief, Space Weather Services Branch, NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center, Boulder, Colorado, USA.

Poles shifting confirmed... Listen to his ( slip ) oops.& cover..lol



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Entire Video (27:00 the Question)
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^^ Fascinating video
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CRAZY THAT IS,AND I THANK YOU FOR POSTING,WE ALL CAN SEE THIS CHANGE I WOULD THINK UNDER 2 YEARS LEFT.
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i fail to see how that is even possible.

The claim usually goes something along the lines of Nibiru tugging on us from a distance will cause us to flip over. Yes, it's insane, but people actually do believe this garbage.
 Quoting: Astronut


you are a very bright person. just dont get so assured in your learning that you forget that everything can always be different. we, and i mean everyone, in actuality know nothing at all. how do you know that the foundations of your asserions, which were made by other men, are infallible?
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Thanks for your data. In your opinion why did Derek make the comment.
 Quoting: Fallenmonk

Hard to say. A lot of people around here seem to think I "secretly know" that a pole shift is happening so I must be actively covering it up. Not sure how lying about the weather would help me do such a thing, but perhaps he thought I was intentionally delaying doing any astrometry of the NCP because the shift is "too much" to "cover up" at this point?
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gonna observe polaris tonight with telescope and web cam...wish me luck.
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gonna observe polaris tonight with telescope and web cam...wish me luck.
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Good Luck!
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gonna observe polaris tonight with telescope and web cam...wish me luck.
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Good luck, have fun!
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right. its not you, its your tools. atrometry, like all nonphysical mathematics, cannot be used to test real life.

[link to forums.xkcd.com]

give you a good place to start.

im sorry mods if you dont want the link there, take it out, and he can get ahold of me directly.
 Quoting: Nysticles 1112985


Back to the 4rth grade for you.

BTW - What is "nonphysical mathematics"? Is that where woowoos substitute fantasy for reality? The ol' - 'I think it so it must be true' and damn all you sceptics who point out it doesn't make any more sense than the ravings of a lunatic?
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Earth's north magnetic pole is racing toward Russia at almost 40 miles (64 kilometers) a year due to magnetic changes in the planet's core, new research says.

The core is too deep for scientists to directly detect its magnetic field. But researchers can infer the field's movements by tracking how Earth's magnetic field has been changing at the surface and in space.

Now, newly analyzed data suggest that there's a region of rapidly changing magnetism on the core's surface, possibly being created by a mysterious "plume" of magnetism arising from deeper in the core.
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we, and i mean everyone, in actuality know nothing at all.
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You know this for certain, do you? (snicker)

I do know for certain that your written English skills are atrocious. It would seem you also need 4rth grade remedial education in this subject.

Have fun.


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LOLOOL at you ppl who think the earth will stop spinning and reverse its direction. cant even begin to describe how retarded you are
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You are quite the quite the myopic dumbass.

The earth doesn't have just ONE axis -- it has THREE.

And the longnitudinal axis won't STOP -- but it WILL Reverse.

That's a scientific fact.

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Re: Chief NOAA scientest - The North Pole is moving rapidly
Magnetically perhaps, but not physically:

Here it is, a photo from mid-November of this year.
[link to www.flickr.com]
Astrometry reveals that at 1:1 scale, the image angular resolution is 51.32 arcseconds per pixel:
[link to www.flickr.com]
Polaris coordinates precessed to 2010 are 02h 43m 44.22s, 89d 18' 25.7" so it should have an offset from the north celestial pole of 2494.3 arcseconds. I measure Polaris to be 48.5 pixels offset from the north celestial pole in this image.
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
That equates to an offset of 2489.02 arcseconds, well within the resolution of the photo itself. It doesn't get more accurate than that using this technique. Conclusion? The north celestial pole is right where it should be.

I'll be doing a much higher resolution repeat of this test as soon as my weather clears up.
 Quoting: Astronut

So you are denying the NASA findings?
He said north pole, thats the rotational axis of the earth if I remember my science right so one of you doesn't know what you're talking abouT< MAGNETIC NORTH AND THE NORTH POLE ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS AND HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE SAME PLACE
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The foundations of our asserions, which were made by other men, are infallible?
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I constantly think about that.

People say science is always rewritting itself. True, rather, Science is always CORRECTING itself. And knowing such one can not put faith in science to provide TRUE answers.

But since science is on the path of correction, one can observe the theories set forth to assist in one obtaining thier own answers.

Plus, I am a believer of a Consciousness Creates the Universe rather then the Universe Creating Consciousness

I recently read a study which claims your subconscious absorbs information and never forgets it. The true act of education isn't memorizing, it is getting better at communicating with your subconscious regarding the issue being learned, specifically. Which is why some people are far better at learning then others.

Our capacity for memory is more equal among the masses and therefore can not be the factor in education. As the variable in education is much greater then the variable of memory capacity.

It is our observations which alter our abilities to learn. A child who ponders an infinite space at a young age will excel versus the child who will ponder that later in life. Pondering an infinite formula will greatly increase Co-Consciouss communications as the subconsciousness tries to resolve it but never does. The subconsciousness constantly refferences the conscious due to the perpetuallity of the thought/observation.
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Thanks for your data. In your opinion why did Derek make the comment.

Hard to say. A lot of people around here seem to think I "secretly know" that a pole shift is happening so I must be actively covering it up. Not sure how lying about the weather would help me do such a thing, but perhaps he thought I was intentionally delaying doing any astrometry of the NCP because the shift is "too much" to "cover up" at this point?
 Quoting: Astronut

Having dealt with you many times in the past I happen to know you're a liar. I have no idea why NASA has a jackal like you on the payroll, but if you ask me it is outrageous
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I think he was talking about the magnetic pole shift.

I'm pretty sure he wasn't; I specifically excluded magnetic pole shifting from my arguments in the very post he quoted when claiming I was posting "BS."

You do have to agree that the north magnetic pole rushing towards Russia is pretty amazing in of itself?

I hate to say it but I don't find it terribly unexpected given the direction it has moved over the last century, and given that our planet's magnetic field is showing signs of precursors to a pole flip.
 Quoting: Astronut

The magnetic poles will switch exactly when anyone with any knowledge of physics thinks they will, when the earth crosses the galactic plane. The correlation between this event and the pole shift should be obvious to all but the dullest 'scientist'





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