| Users Online Now: 2,100 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 679,845 | |
| Pageviews Today: 1,109,457 | Threads Today: 446 | Posts Today: 7,479 |
| 11:30 AM | ||
| Users Online Now: 2,100 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 679,845 | |
| Pageviews Today: 1,109,457 | Threads Today: 446 | Posts Today: 7,479 |
| 11:30 AM | ||
I have been fined for not having a drivers licence.. this will be fun | |
| ShaneCMuir Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1216833  Australia01/04/2011 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1210440  United States01/04/2011 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have not had a drivers licence for about 3 years.. Quoting: ShaneCMuirI have been pulled over for a breath test only once in that time. They checked the car registration, which was politically correct, but they never asked for my drivers licence. But now.. I get pulled over for not having a licence plate on my car. My Dad says that someone must have pinched it because the screws are still there. T.P.T.B are now ready to 'go' me. 1) I have a common law right to travel. 2) I have a constitutional tright to travel. (section 92 of the the Aust. Constitution) 3) I have no contract with the State Government. I will not hire a lawyer. The 'bar' is a monopoly organisation. This will be fun. Good luck with that, I don't think they're going to see it your way, though, but it's worth a shot, keep us posted, please. |
| JF Priest User ID: 1069469 United States01/04/2011 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216835 United States01/04/2011 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have not had a drivers licence for about 3 years.. Quoting: ShaneCMuirI have been pulled over for a breath test only once in that time. They checked the car registration, which was politically correct, but they never asked for my drivers licence. But now.. I get pulled over for not having a licence plate on my car. My Dad says that someone must have pinched it because the screws are still there. T.P.T.B are now ready to 'go' me. 1) I have a common law right to travel. 2) I have a constitutional tright to travel. (section 92 of the the Aust. Constitution) 3) I have no contract with the State Government. I will not hire a lawyer. The 'bar' is a monopoly organisation. This will be fun. another form of slavery. you must do what they say or they take your right to drive away. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216834  United Kingdom01/04/2011 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ajk User ID: 1114631 United States01/04/2011 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How have you managed to make it without a license all this time? It's something I'd strive for, but not sure how possible it'd be. Good luck with this. No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |
| ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia01/04/2011 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216836 Australia01/04/2011 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 880044 United States01/04/2011 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| aVian User ID: 903212 United States01/04/2011 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | godlike has been corrupted!! Quoting: ShaneCMuirwhere have all the flowers gone?  Last Edited by aVian on 01/04/2011 09:10 AM "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frédéric Bastiat food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck |
| ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia01/04/2011 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia01/04/2011 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia01/04/2011 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia01/04/2011 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 53618  Canada01/04/2011 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The verb license or grant licence means to give permission." Quoting: ShaneCMuir"giving official permission to do something" permission??? To travel?? Permission is not required. Of course not. You are free to walk or ride a bicycle anywhere you wish with no license or insurance required. When you are operating a motor vehicle, society has deemed that licensing is required in order to ensure that those driving are not a danger to others (i.e. you don't get a license if you fail the test, have a medical condition, or are suspended for drunk driving, etc.) Why is that so hard for some people to grasp? Don't like it? Buy your own island or move to Somalia and I'm sure no-one there will mind you driving around without a license. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1035843  Austria01/04/2011 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The verb license or grant licence means to give permission." Quoting: ShaneCMuir"giving official permission to do something" permission??? To travel?? Permission is not required. You can travel as far as you will but a driving LICENSE gives you the right to move on federal streets. Reading is not your strength huh? this stuff you have to subscribe if you want to get one is a little to high for ya? |
| ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia01/04/2011 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216254 United States01/04/2011 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1171394 United States01/04/2011 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| J-Rico User ID: 1116423 United States01/04/2011 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The verb license or grant licence means to give permission." Quoting: ShaneCMuir"giving official permission to do something" permission??? To travel?? Permission is not required. A car isn't required either. Everyone dies, but not everyone lives. :moranrico::Rico::moranrico: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1196058 United States01/04/2011 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The verb license or grant licence means to give permission." Quoting: ShaneCMuir"giving official permission to do something" permission??? To travel?? Permission is not required. Permission to drive a motor vehicle on the public roadways is required. You don't need permission to travel by foot, bicycle or mule. |
| ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia01/04/2011 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The verb license or grant licence means to give permission." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53618"giving official permission to do something" permission??? To travel?? Permission is not required. Of course not. You are free to walk or ride a bicycle anywhere you wish with no license or insurance required. When you are operating a motor vehicle, society has deemed that licensing is required in order to ensure that those driving are not a danger to others (i.e. you don't get a license if you fail the test, have a medical condition, or are suspended for drunk driving, etc.) Why is that so hard for some people to grasp? Don't like it? Buy your own island or move to Somalia and I'm sure no-one there will mind you driving around without a license. Why should I move? You say "society has deemed". I say the "rule of law" has deemed me free to travel. Do we fight it out on the blogs or the court room? |
| The Pay User ID: 795737 Canada01/04/2011 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The verb license or grant licence means to give permission." Quoting: ShaneCMuir"giving official permission to do something" permission??? To travel?? Permission is not required. Of course not. You are free to walk or ride a bicycle anywhere you wish with no license or insurance required. When you are operating a motor vehicle, society has deemed that licensing is required in order to ensure that those driving are not a danger to others (i.e. you don't get a license if you fail the test, have a medical condition, or are suspended for drunk driving, etc.) Why is that so hard for some people to grasp? Don't like it? Buy your own island or move to Somalia and I'm sure no-one there will mind you driving around without a license. Why should I move? You say "society has deemed". I say the "rule of law" has deemed me free to travel. Do we fight it out on the blogs or the court room?  Bummy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1214833 Canada01/04/2011 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The verb license or grant licence means to give permission." Quoting: ShaneCMuir"giving official permission to do something" permission??? To travel?? Permission is not required. Nobody can stop you from walking. You're licensed for a particular mode of transport - or not - doesn't mean you can't still travel. They do have buses in Oz, right?? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1212000 United States01/04/2011 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the US only truck drivers (commercial drivers) are required to have a driver's license. That's why the dl was originally created. All others are traveling in their personal conveyance. You're not driving unless you're a commercial vehicle. Thus do not need a license. Or so the freeman states. I wouldn't want to have to try and get the courts to agree. |
| ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia01/04/2011 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Snapper User ID: 1216834 United Kingdom01/04/2011 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 53618 Canada01/04/2011 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why should I move? Quoting: ShaneCMuirYou say "society has deemed". I say the "rule of law" has deemed me free to travel. Do we fight it out on the blogs or the court room? The country you live in has laws. If you don't like them your recourse is to vote in a government that will change them, buy your own private island, or move to a country that has no laws. It has already been explained that vehicle licensing does not infringe your "right" to travel, since a personal vehicle is not required in order to do so. You can walk, bike, take a bus/train or hire a taxi among other options that do not require a license. I've already won "on the blogs". Get back to us with how you do in the courtroom. |
| ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia01/04/2011 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody can stop you from walking. You're licensed for a particular mode of transport - or not - doesn't mean you can't still travel. They do have buses in Oz, right?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214833Nobody can stop me from travelling. Mode of transport?.. irrevelvant!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 997890 United States01/04/2011 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Juniper from Jupiter User ID: 1214567 United States01/04/2011 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have not had a drivers licence for about 3 years.. Quoting: ShaneCMuirI have been pulled over for a breath test only once in that time. They checked the car registration, which was politically correct, but they never asked for my drivers licence. But now.. I get pulled over for not having a licence plate on my car. My Dad says that someone must have pinched it because the screws are still there. T.P.T.B are now ready to 'go' me. 1) I have a common law right to travel. 2) I have a constitutional tright to travel. (section 92 of the the Aust. Constitution) 3) I have no contract with the State Government. I will not hire a lawyer. The 'bar' is a monopoly organisation. This will be fun. I don't have a license because I was caught driving without insurance (unawares) and if I were caught driving without my license I'd be hauled straight to jail! So this is why I don't drive anymore. Not until I can get my license back. So in my eyes... you have it made! |
sounds like you were set up... Tyranny is everywhere... Good Luck...