I have been fined for not having a drivers licence.. this will be fun | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216819 United States 01/04/2011 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How have you managed to make it without a license all this time? It's something I'd strive for, but not sure how possible it'd be. Quoting: ajkGood luck with this. I had epilepsy and went ten years with no license.I did get it back and only was ticketed once.I have zero points zero accidents in 20 years.Now that is skill my friend.If you drive with no license and get ticketed.Dont whine.You knew when you got in the car what could happen. |
Tetra User ID: 1216634 Germany 01/04/2011 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a pathetic response. Is there anyone with a brain out there? Is it possible to have a constitutional discussion on godlike? Once upon a time... In a galaxy far far away... Yeah. That paper your talking about isn't worth shit. The sooner you realize it, the better. |
ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia 01/04/2011 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The country you live in has laws. If you don't like them your recourse is to vote in a government that will change them, buy your own private island, or move to a country that has no laws. It has already been explained that vehicle licensing does not infringe your "right" to travel, since a personal vehicle is not required in order to do so. You can walk, bike, take a bus/train or hire a taxi among other options that do not require a license. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53618I've already won "on the blogs". Get back to us with how you do in the courtroom. "The country you live in has laws." Yes.. I can quote them for you.. Its called the constitution! The "laws" you are referrong to are actually called "statutes".. Statutes are NOT LAWS!! ANY statute.. that contradicts a constitutional right..is a NULL law.. IT DOES NOT EXIST! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1055544 United States 01/04/2011 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The verb license or grant licence means to give permission." Quoting: ShaneCMuir"giving official permission to do something" permission??? To travel?? Permission is not required. Permission is not required to travel by foot, horse, passenger train, sea vessel, or airplane. To operate a motor vehicle, passenger train, sea vessel, or airplane, a valid license is required. Notice it's not called a traveller's license or a passenger's license, but a DRIVER'S license. |
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J-Rico User ID: 1116423 United States 01/04/2011 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody can stop you from walking. You're licensed for a particular mode of transport - or not - doesn't mean you can't still travel. They do have buses in Oz, right?? Quoting: ShaneCMuirNobody can stop me from travelling. Mode of transport?.. irrevelvant!! Then just use that as an argument and you should get off scott-free, right? So what's the problem... the world according to Shane Muir is how the world needs to work. Everyone dies, but not everyone lives. :moranrico::Rico::moranrico: |
J-Rico User ID: 1116423 United States 01/04/2011 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The country you live in has laws. If you don't like them your recourse is to vote in a government that will change them, buy your own private island, or move to a country that has no laws. It has already been explained that vehicle licensing does not infringe your "right" to travel, since a personal vehicle is not required in order to do so. You can walk, bike, take a bus/train or hire a taxi among other options that do not require a license. Quoting: ShaneCMuirI've already won "on the blogs". Get back to us with how you do in the courtroom. "The country you live in has laws." Yes.. I can quote them for you.. Its called the constitution! The "laws" you are referrong to are actually called "statutes".. Statutes are NOT LAWS!! ANY statute.. that contradicts a constitutional right..is a NULL law.. IT DOES NOT EXIST! Please video record this for GLP. I haven't seen a good comedy in years. Everyone dies, but not everyone lives. :moranrico::Rico::moranrico: |
ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia 01/04/2011 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That paper your talking about isn't worth shit. The sooner you realize it, the better. Quoting: TetraI beg to differ. It is the "LAW OF THE LAND" The ONLY way to dissolve it is to have a referendum on "dissolving the constitution". Have you voted on a referendum like that lately? |
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J-Rico User ID: 1116423 United States 01/04/2011 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Congratulations, you're a criminal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214847Do you have a license to breathe air? To love? To have children? A dog? To exist? To earn a living in a lawful calling? None of those have anything to do with driving a car. Everyone dies, but not everyone lives. :moranrico::Rico::moranrico: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1206008 United States 01/04/2011 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go to these two sites. Go to youtube and watch the video, then go to the site. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.marcstevens.net] Go to Marc Stevens site. Learn about the word "Standing" and what it means. After the cop testifies do ask these three things. Did you file the fine? What is the standing? What is the elements of the standing? You will get an objection from the States attorney, which is okay. That is what you want the States attorney to do. By asking the cop these three questions, it will show he has purgered himself and then all of his testimony will have to be omitted. That means you have no witness that can testify against you. The fine should be thrown out then. If the judge does not, then you can point out that the judge is working for the city just as the States attorney is, and again, that makes the court trial null and void because you can't get a fair trial. Good luck. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1214847 United States 01/04/2011 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Congratulations, you're a criminal. Quoting: J-RicoDo you have a license to breathe air? To love? To have children? A dog? To exist? To earn a living in a lawful calling? None of those have anything to do with driving a car. To Travel? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216859 Australia 01/04/2011 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DOn't buy everything aussiespeedingfines says, they win some they lose some... Please let us know how you go, Do LOTS of reading, look at case studies (precedents) and major decisions relating to the matter before you go to court so you don't look stupid. Talk to lawyers about appropriate courtroom behaivour before you go, especially if you have never been before. Good luck! I am hoping you will win. |
ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia 01/04/2011 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had epilepsy and went ten years with no license.I did get it back and only was ticketed once.I have zero points zero accidents in 20 years.Now that is skill my friend.If you drive with no license and get ticketed.Dont whine.You knew when you got in the car what could happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1216819I need to travel. AND I have the right to. If an employee of the state parliament issues me a ticket that conflicts with my constitutional rights.. who wins? Can we have two masters? The answer is in the bible. Which is where our legal system comes from by the way. Our country's constitutiuon overides our state's constitution. You cannot serve two masters. Section 92 of my country's constitution says that I have the right to travel.. "unburdened by state restrictions, regulations or obstructions" I plan to continue to do so. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216873 United States 01/04/2011 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do you plan to step through the gates into maritime law, as the rumor has it, and submit yourself to the arbitrary decision of the captain of the ship otherwise known as a judge? according to some, it doesn't matter how much homework you do if you give up your rights before you begin to argue your case. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1147852 United States 01/04/2011 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I went 5 years this last time without one. Traveled the whole country too, with my job. Didn't even know it for the first 3 years. In my state you don't have to renew for 8 years. I was cautious and lucky, I guess. Finally I got it back. |
ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia 01/04/2011 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i looked into this stuff awhile ago for myself. It appears that you really don't need a license to travel, but i am interested in the courts interpretation of this rule as it applies to roads, YOu are Australian using Australian roads paid for by Australian money that should mean something but its the interpretation that will get ya.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1216859DOn't buy everything aussiespeedingfines says, they win some they lose some... Please let us know how you go, Do LOTS of reading, look at case studies (precedents) and major decisions relating to the matter before you go to court so you don't look stupid. Talk to lawyers about appropriate courtroom behaivour before you go, especially if you have never been before. Good luck! I am hoping you will win. No country flag? Interesting comment though. Hmmm.. |
RonOh User ID: 1214214 United States 01/04/2011 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The verb license or grant licence means to give permission." Quoting: ShaneCMuir"giving official permission to do something" permission??? To travel?? Permission is not required. No, it's "permission" to operate a motorized vehicle. you can travel (walk) anywhere in this World without any type of license. Education can be your friend, Friend!! Life is short.....live it with ecstasy! Intuition is a status of mind to live by. The most destructive lies we tell are the ones we tell ourselves. Once you stop this behavior things begin to change. The universe embraces you and gives you the courage, forbearance, faith, hope and love to move up the staircase. It's enLightening. Changing the world one person at a time. I II IIII IIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIII THE DOOR OF DOOM HAS BEEN BOLWN OEPN AND TREHE IS A GIPANG HLOE IN JAAPN! "One day your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it's worth watching." -- Gerard Way |
rken User ID: 1216490 Thailand 01/04/2011 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had epilepsy and went ten years with no license.I did get it back and only was ticketed once.I have zero points zero accidents in 20 years.Now that is skill my friend.If you drive with no license and get ticketed.Dont whine.You knew when you got in the car what could happen. Quoting: ShaneCMuirI need to travel. AND I have the right to. If an employee of the state parliament issues me a ticket that conflicts with my constitutional rights.. who wins? Can we have two masters? The answer is in the bible. Which is where our legal system comes from by the way. Our country's constitutiuon overides our state's constitution. You cannot serve two masters. Section 92 of my country's constitution says that I have the right to travel.. "unburdened by state restrictions, regulations or obstructions" I plan to continue to do so. You are right of course. Good luck. hope you get an honest judge. I know you have rescinded all contracts, so you should be good to go. I do not consent. rken |
ShaneCMuir (OP) User ID: 1216833 Australia 01/04/2011 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I went 5 years this last time without one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1147852Traveled the whole country too, with my job. Didn't even know it for the first 3 years. In my state you don't have to renew for 8 years. I was cautious and lucky, I guess. Finally I got it back. You do not need one.. Read my "two masters" post. Understand the rule of law in your own country. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1214847 United States 01/04/2011 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The verb license or grant licence means to give permission." Quoting: RonOh"giving official permission to do something" permission??? To travel?? Permission is not required. No, it's "permission" to operate a motorized vehicle. you can travel (walk) anywhere in this World without any type of license. Education can be your friend, Friend!! Then what is the reason you have to sign your name? Does the person giving you permission have to sign their name too? |