I have been fined for not having a drivers licence.. this will be fun

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Yeah they'll cut you up in little pieces and eat you.

Lets see how many of you fucktards have the stones, mental capacity, and reading comprehension skills to read and understand the following.


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The bottom line and short version is :

If you do not have a drivers license ( not Revoked or Suspended, needs to be rescinded) in the US AND have the MSO and bill of sale to your vehicle ( NOT a Certificate of Title) as long as you are not driving in a commercial capacity ( like pizza delivery, for instance) a contract to perform to the letters a drivers license binds you to does not exist. And there IS no implied consent.

The key is the Title and the drivers license. By having a certificate of Title the title is clouded and the State has a majority ownership interest in your vehicle. THATS how they can compel you at law to have car insurance, LMFAO you are insuring the States property. Sure as long as you play by their rules by participating in their widdle criminal enterprise you , at face, enjoy all the benefits of ownership, however legally???

You are fucked.


IDIOTS.

The above link deals with the title aspect. Read it.

it is NOT going to be fun for you you will fined and maybe get some jail time

OP is correct you do not need a driver licence to travel in a car. You only need a drivers licence if you are transporting commercial goods in your car. Thats the law and the rest is just bull shit. You have been conned. rken

Sure you did. You all did nothing to stop or change the laws.

If you contest your fine, you will find yourself in front of
'the man in the black robes', who will have a large book in
front of him. This book will describe the laws as they are
in the region/country you live in....and as they pertain to
your particular situation. The judge is likely to base his
decision on the 'laws of the land' as described in the book,
NOT necessarily by *your* interpretation of them.
If you become argumentative about the matter, you are very
liable to find yourself sharing a jail-cell with 'Bruno',
a large hulking brute who's been incarcerated for some time
and who is very lonely - and HORNY!!! Have fun!

i've had my suspended cause i didnt pay some fees and drove on suspended for about 4 yrs until i got pulled over and was forced to go to court and pay up fees and get my license renewed, luckily around that time i got an offer in the mail for a credit card that covered all those costs, used it up never paid on it and got the license cleared up, then again a couple of years later same thing its suspended again so i am waiting for a new card offer or the system to change :D

fuck this system i am not gonna pay jack out of pocket never...

No.

You are required to hold a license to "drive".

Check out the legal definition of the term and then get back to me.

A license is a PRIVILEGE, and a PRIVILEGE is permission to do something against or beyond the course of the law (see Black's). However, the simple exercise of one's At Law right to travel is not, and never was, against or beyond the course of law.

"Personal liberty, or the right of the enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from or dependent on the U.S. Constitution, and which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable rights, as sacred as the right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable." 16 C.J.S., Constitutional Law, Sec. 202, p. 987.

"Personal liberty largely consists of THE RIGHT OF LOCOMOTION - to go where and when one pleases - only so far restrained as the rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens. The right of the citizen TO TRAVEL UPON THE PUBLIC HIGHWAYS and to transport his property thereon, by horsedrawn carriage, wagon OR AUTOMOBILE, IS NOT A MERE PRIVILEGE which may be permitted or prohibited at will, BUT A COMMON RIGHT which he has under his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Under this constitutional guarantee one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with, nor disturbing another's rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct." 11 Am. Jur. 1st, Constitutional Law, Sec. 329, p. 1135.

WARNING!!!

"Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which could abrogate them." Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 491.

"If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten or intimidate any citizen in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same...they shall be fined not more than $10,000, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both..." Title 18, United States Code, Section 241.

"Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation or custom, willfully subjects any inhabitant of any State, territory or district to the deprivation of any rights, privileges or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution of laws of the United States...shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both..." Title 18, United States Code, Section 242.

[link to www.svpvril.com]

My friend's dad used to take "tags" or "plates" (the word you're looking for - not license), got busted a few times but surprisingly nothing serious in regards to punishment.

Hope you have a clean-ish record, take pics of the bolts in the plate holder, or put ones in and then take pics, tell them you have no reason to take the plates off, would be illogical for you to take them off, that you didn't realize the tags were taken and that, "your honor, i'm requesting a warning for failure to inspect my vehicle before operating it".

Good luck. Should be easy. Don't need to pay $1k for a lawyer to speak for 5 mins you are right about that.

If I had a real bitch it wouldn't be with licensing drivers , but in making them pay for it. Yes, a drivers proficiency should be checked, for obvious reasons.

And another thing, mandatory insurance laws.

I've been paying the cocksuckers for 30 years and never had an accident.

I believe at the end the year , if you haven't been in an accident you should get a full refund. I also believe insurance should be handled directly by the state government.
What a revolutionary idea! Fairness.

And seat belt laws, don't get me started.

It's all a bunch of bloodsuckers with the proboscis in our back pockets.

You know, the lad has a point, but I will take the other side on this issue just due to public safety as I think it is just sensible to have proficiency tests to keep the idiots off the road.
Not that they do the best job with that, but it is hazardous enough travelling about, so I do adhere to the safety laws myself, like not drinking and driving, and seatbelts and speed (generally).
But do think there are some really stupid ACTS regarding rules of the road.
They are all ACTS and STATUTES by the way and not technically LAWS, they just have the COLOR OF LAW.
If one violates one of the said rules, where then is the harm, the corpus delecti?

Some things that are obviously stupid do need to be challenged just to keep the courts and enforcement officers from taking excessive liberties and just using the said rules as a cash cow, which they tend to do at times (quite unjustly).

Get real, it was just a cat (too bloody many of them around, and I like cats by the way) and should have been sensible enough not to become a voluntary speedbump, the fact that it did means that it was too stupid to avoid it and should be replaced with a more intelligent pet.
That is obviously a ticket to challenge.
What was the ticket for anyway, specifically?

So, tell us old wise one - Why would you need a license to marry? Is there a test you take that if you fail you cannot get married?

Licensing is just a way to track people and collect taxes.. Nothing more, nothing less.. It's a revenue generator!

Just because you are a faithful servant doesn't mean the rest of us need to be.

I think you'll get fined $200 and disqualified from driving for three months.

The granting of license isn't for permission to travel. It's for permission to drive a car. When you drive a car, you are in control of a 2000 lb missile. Don't know what it's like in Australia, but in America you are tested to ensure you know the rules of the road.

I'm all about freedom too, but who wants some jackass on the road with me who can't friggin' drive?

No, the fun part was escaping detection.

Now you learn how to work with the system.

This 'habitual offender' switched from riding a fast motorcycle to a bicycle.

DRIVING is a commercial activity, using public roads for profit in transportation of cargo or passengers.

I would post the Federal Code which defines "driving" and "motor vehicle" but the average north american is so ignorant to legal definitions it would not matter.

Traveling, in a car, on the road, while not engaging in for profit "driving" does not and never has required a "license".

Anyone who says it does is a mother fucking liar.

Of course, the attorneys, lower court judges ignore that fact because the vast majority of US Citizens know more about "Dancing with the Stars" then they do about the fucking law of the land.

Everything is a crime in the prison state of america. You gotta pay some government official to take a dump any more.

Hell, most cities require a license plate on a bicycle now days.

When the fuck is enough enough?

Hello,

"They" are saying driving a car is a privilege, not a right, so i guess that means they can use the good old Mafia protection racket against you and call it "governing the people".

Our “rights” donot keep up with prosperity and progress; only our taxes do:

Ask them to define “section 92 of the the Aust. Constitution” updated and modernized . . . Or you want your taxes as were . . .

Truth will set you free John 8:32

Use this opportunity to do the best MAD MAX impersonation ever performed since Mel Gibson....Turn your car into a hot rod and start tearing the fucking place up.Before you do any of this,paint your face black first so that they will be on the lookout for an aborigini and not you....Good luck!

Hello,

Itis against the law to let your animals run loose. Did the peace officer write her a ticket also?- if not charge discrimination against . . . uh . . . whatever . . . or try religious persecution against a Protestant versus Catholic/whatever . . . especially if the cat lady and peace officer were Catholic and you were Christian, Musslim etc.

Truth will set you free John 8:32

"little boxe on the hillside, little boxes made of ticky tacky..."

Shane....dood...no number plates is the coppers doin ya?

nah...

rough roads, potholes and old holdens, vb's and cones...


surely ye jest?


and I'd be pleaing Sine dei so ya can give th emagistrate another chuckle...

oh ya could try ultra vires


yeah ya do have a constitutional right to travel


yer feet


Son....

get on em


I sentence ya to one months lambast and rdicule...


man.....


Avian..flowers...how thoughtful



canned flowers....always fresh

like bullshit

can never mistake it

and Shane

This post is literay genius

I dareth ye NOT to bane it hither.

Happy new year

pleanty pof time to excersize yer constituional rights to traverse thi sgreat land


on yer feet

bwhwhhwhhwhwhhhhwhhwhwh



Case laughed out.

Hello,

The medical license give a person the right to practice their knowledge on a person and charge them a fee.

simply put....if an unlicenced driver has the most unfortunate mishap to have an accident....if there is no Motor Accident Insurance, and there is a death...these are unthinkable consequences...the Rule of Law is there...to nullify and mitigate the egresses of the most recalcitrant recidivist.
Ya wanted a legal opinion...ya got it

if one could prove to the courts that travel by automobile is not a privilege but a necessity in todays standards.


Definition for privilege
- restricted right or benefit: an advantage, right, or benefit that is not available to everyone
- rights and advantages enjoyed by elite: the rights and advantages enjoyed by a relatively small group of people, usua…
- special honor: a special treat or honor



Definition for necessity
- something essential: something that is essential, especially a basic requirement
- compelling circumstances: circumstances that create a need or an obligation
- need: the condition of being needed or required

Last Edited by Nailer45 on 01/04/2011 09:07 PM

Uh hum cough, cough. It was not society who deemed a licence was necessary. It was the corporate governments of the world.

Next time, check who society is and check who is trying to impose the rules. Then I think you will find it is not society at all.

Thank you