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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1094488 Canada 01/05/2011 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHAT IS GOING ON IS THE BEGINNING OF END GAME. THE PLANETARY/NATURE SPIRIT IS UP FOR GRADUATION. Quoting: spikeithardWHEN ROBERT MONROE TOOK A CLASS ON ASSIGNMENT A WHILE BACK THEY ALL WENT TO THE YEAR 2200 AND ALL SAW NO LIFE (ALMOST NO LIFE) AND NO ROADS OR ANYTHING. SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND 2200. THIS INFORMATION IS FROM OUT OUT OF BODY PROCESSES FROM AN AWAKENED FINAL INCARNATION. AND FROM ROBERT MONROE HIMSELF. THIS IS THE START TO END GAME GLP'ERS. ITS GOING TO GET WORSE. SOON HUMANS WILL BE DOING THE SWAN DIVE TOO. that's not true. humans had evolved, changed form, and become non-carbon-based....meaning 'spirit'-based or electro-magnetic-energy-based...with the ability to transduce down into the carbon-based form when needed. |
Anonymous Coward 01/05/2011 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THANK YOU! So glad to see someone make a thread that puts all this together. You are spot on! Quoting: NiNzrezHere is something I just put together to post on my thread about the Magnetosphere, that is completely relevant here, so I would like to share Earth is made of an estimated 80% Iron. Earths magnetic field is created by massive circulations of a hot liquid mantel beneath the Earth’s surface. Slowly moving molten iron generate the magnetic field. Any slowing or change in this would cause a change in the magnetic field protecting Earth. When there is slowing of earths inner rotation or a earthquake, this causes fluctuations around earth magnetic field. When the Earth crust moves, the magnetic field around Earth must also move. (this also applies to Volcano activity) Activity in space will also effect earths protective magnetic field. [link to en.wikipedia.org] "It is possibly in this direction that we must seek the solution of the important problem of the foretelling of earthquakes; such a result can only be attained by studying the laws which govern the movements of the superior fluid layer of the interior nucleus of the Earth, with the aid of modern physical methods, with their increasing precision. A remarkable coincidence between the years of maximum earthquakes, of maximum polar aurora, and of maximum magnetic storms has already been demonstrated. The periodicity of the three phenomena is the same, viz., eleven years, which is also the periodicity of the maximum activity of the solar spots. Our Sun, by the attraction of its mass, is the cause of the complex movements the Earth performs; by warming the Earth's crust it produces a daily deformation of the latter; it causes tides, not only at the surface of the seas, but also at the surface of the ocean of heated lava which exists beneath our feet. The question naturally follows whether the periodical variation in th number of the solar spots produces a variation of the kinds of radiation emitted by the Sun and what effect this would have upon the Earth. The Sun creates a field of force about it in space, and the intensity of this field is affected by the slightest variations in the solar activity. It may be, therefore, that we must make a fuller study of the Sun in order to determine the law of the vicissitudes of the Earth's thin and incessantly quivering crust. When we have described the magnetic and electrical phenomena of which the Earth is the seat, we shall still better understand the unquestionable influence that the Sun exerts on the terrestrial globe. Seismic phenomena should not be treated as isolated occurrences, for the same reason that applies in the case of volcanic eruptions, viz., that they are different manifestations of the internal energy, having no "laws" or necessary interconnection in time or space, but they nevertheless arise from one sole cause, so some law should govern them when taken together." [link to www.oldandsold.com] When the earth goes through a magnetic pole reversal, all things magnetic on earth switch places. During the reversal prosess there is a weakening of the protective magnetic field around earth thus allowing solar winds to more easily enter earths atmosphere. "Through analysis of palaeomagnetic data, it is now known that the Earth's magnetic field has reversed its orientation tens of thousands of times during the history of the Earth since its formation" [link to en.wikipedia.org] "There is a growing body of evidence that changes in the geomagnetic field affect biological systems. Studies indicate that physically stressed human biological systems may respond to fluctuations in the geomagnetic field." [link to en.wikipedia.org] This would explain the effects that we are seeing on the animals and people of earth. All one has to do is do a search here on GLP to see the mass reports of their pets acting strange, people feeling dizzy or disoriented for no apperant reason, Feelings of anxiety, ringing in ears, compases not preforming normal (by the way, the magnetic field varies from one place to the next when it is being effected by solar or earth changes. So of course not everyone all around the world would be reporting the exact same change at the exact same moment) [link to www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk] Any change in Earths Magnetosphere is caused by either a change on earth, or a change in space.. or both.. caused by each other. Some will try saying "oh this all looks normal" when viewing a change in the Magnetosphere. But I argue that no slight change should be over looked and brushed off, especialy right now with all these strange things happening on earth. When there is ANY change in the Magnetosphere, something is causing it. We need to pay attention to ALL the changes. They are telling us something. (sorry for any typos, this is not a english prep site, so please be nice haha) For the magnetic field to have confused the birds, they would have to have been in flight. Most birds are roosting at night......So what scared them enough to leave their roosting spot? Quoting: NiNzrezThat's not accurate...many animals sense these fields and take action depending on what they feel...it does not matter if they're in flight or not. Much study shows that birds may actually be able to "see" earths magnetic field. Their eyes contain molecules that allow them to see it. [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] i like your theory. Quoting: NiNzrezbut i wonder if there is a magnetic field change why only a handful of flocks have been affected? do you really think it's going to get worse? i guess we would know in a few weeks if these stories keep popping up. i'm not sure what point i will change my mind from overhype from the media and general obsession with searching the net for every flock loss in the world no matter how small, and this actually being a definite problem for the future. i wish an avian expert was on this site. would love to know a bit more about the history of all the effected birds, if they are more prone to these things, the height they fly at, etc. i'd like a real answer you know? not a UFO cloaking device answer. I'm no expert, this is just my usual uneducated rambling, but I have seen many visualisations of magnetic fields that show magnetic interactions occurring in ribbons in small locations ie. they can be localised. Also, another possibility is that frequency/amplitude of the magnetic anomoly (if any) may result in certian species falling victim while others remain unscathed. Remember, the frequency determines the wavelength. Resonance will occur when the wavelength matches the size of a given cavity and the amplitude is great enough (singers breaking wineglasses). So, given my limited understanding/heresay, it should be possible for this to occur in a small location to only certain species. The blood clots though, I don't have any idea could magnetism be to blame. could it interact with iron in the blood? I would like to know from someone who lives in the area, have the people on the ground noticed anything healthwise in or around the same time? Earths magnetic grid is not the same in all places and is constantly changing. If the birds or fish or whatever animal is effected by this magnetic flux in one area, it would not effect them all in all areas at the same time. It would only effect the animals in areas of a wave change. This supports the theory that the magnetic field is what is causing these mass bird/fish/crab kills [link to ngdc.noaa.gov] [link to www.geomag.us] Excellent posts... |
wirelessguru1 User ID: 1210655 United States 01/05/2011 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The global landmass is pretty much untouched....apart from birds - Who can quite easily feed in one place, then die somewhere else inland. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218364Hello,hello, because most fish are in the Oceans! why are the highest concentration of deaths around the GOM/ East US, with the rest on the conveyor route? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218364and for what it's worth, I'm not looking to blame BP. everyone is just theorising and nobody has an answer yet - so when you put "wtf" or "lol's" next to a very reasonable theory, am I to think you are interested in intelligent discourse...? Maybe I don't care what you think!? Look, just because you don't know does not means that "nobody" knows!? Finally, the highest concentration of death is not necessarily around GOM and, of course, both Ocean and atmospheric currents tend to follow EM force field lines.!! The Invisible Universe! |
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Freya of Valhalla User ID: 1218668 United States 01/05/2011 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only are fish and birds doing this, but also penguins, manatees, starfish, jellyfish.... |
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Magnetotard User ID: 1040464 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | u guys are fucking stupid Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210972[link to www.dailymail.co.uk] No YOU are! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218364 United States 01/05/2011 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The global landmass is pretty much untouched....apart from birds - Who can quite easily feed in one place, then die somewhere else inland. Quoting: wirelessguru1Hello,hello, because most fish are in the Oceans! why are the highest concentration of deaths around the GOM/ East US, with the rest on the conveyor route? and for what it's worth, I'm not looking to blame BP. everyone is just theorising and nobody has an answer yet - so when you put "wtf" or "lol's" next to a very reasonable theory, am I to think you are interested in intelligent discourse...? Maybe I don't care what you think!? Look, just because you don't know does not means that "nobody" knows!? Finally, the highest concentration of death is not necessarily around GOM and, of course, both Ocean and atmospheric currents tend to follow EM force field lines.!! why you so hostile then, if everyone's just theorising? why the need to get aggressive about your viewpoint? I never called you an idiot or said you were flat-out wrong. until there is an official explanation, my opinion is just as valid as yours. and again, when you look at the actual map - there are more dots in eastern US and GOM than any other country. I am not deciding to make stuff up - only going on the graphical evidence provided... seriously, as you clearly know more than i possibly could - explain why there are more incidents around the GOM and East US....? Why is EM 'picking' on the US? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 812359 Netherlands 01/05/2011 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really interesting if you read the articles how animals navigate. They are like modern airplanes with backup systems using GPS, old compass and landarks. Though in their case, the stars, the sun, mountains and magnetic fields. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 812359 Netherlands 01/05/2011 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really interesting if you read the articles how animals navigate. They are like modern airplanes with backup systems using GPS, old compass and landarks. Though in their case, the stars, the sun, mountains and magnetic fields. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812359err landarks=landmarks Also, it is theorized they use magnetic fields when stars, the sun and landmarks are not visible. This may explain why the birds were found dead in the morning. |
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wirelessguru1 User ID: 1210655 United States 01/05/2011 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why you so hostile then, if everyone's just theorising? why the need to get aggressive about your viewpoint? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218364"Hostile"!? "Aggressive"!? What in the hell are you talking about now!? I never called you an idiot or said you were flat-out wrong. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218364until there is an official explanation, my opinion is just as valid as yours. and again, when you look at the actual map - there are more dots in eastern US and GOM than any other country. I am not deciding to make stuff up - only going on the graphical evidence provided... seriously, as you clearly know more than i possibly could - explain why there are more incidents around the GOM and East US....? Why is EM 'picking' on the US? Nope, that's not how "reality" works! ..and, again, there aren't more incidents around the GOM with respect to these early Jan 2011 bird and fish "die-off" events! You're just imagining it in your mind!!! The Invisible Universe! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218364 United States 01/05/2011 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really interesting if you read the articles how animals navigate. They are like modern airplanes with backup systems using GPS, old compass and landarks. Though in their case, the stars, the sun, mountains and magnetic fields. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812359err landarks=landmarks Also, it is theorized they use magnetic fields when stars, the sun and landmarks are not visible. This may explain why the birds were found dead in the morning. but birds react to light. they should not have been flying at night time. when there is a solar ecplipse - all the birds shut up and go to sleep for 10 mins, then wake back up again as the sun re-appears. So if it's something EM related - the question is, why did EM supersede sunlight? It's fair enough to say that maybe their navi was off - but why did they take flight in the 1st place? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218364 United States 01/05/2011 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why you so hostile then, if everyone's just theorising? why the need to get aggressive about your viewpoint? Quoting: wirelessguru1"Hostile"!? "Aggressive"!? What in the hell are you talking about now!? I never called you an idiot or said you were flat-out wrong. until there is an official explanation, my opinion is just as valid as yours. and again, when you look at the actual map - there are more dots in eastern US and GOM than any other country. I am not deciding to make stuff up - only going on the graphical evidence provided... seriously, as you clearly know more than i possibly could - explain why there are more incidents around the GOM and East US....? Why is EM 'picking' on the US? Nope, that's not how "reality" works! ..and, again, there aren't more incidents around the GOM with respect to these early Jan 2011 bird and fish "die-off" events! You're just imagining it in your mind!!! whats this then? [link to j.imagehost.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218364 United States 01/05/2011 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why you so hostile then, if everyone's just theorising? why the need to get aggressive about your viewpoint? Quoting: wirelessguru1"Hostile"!? "Aggressive"!? What in the hell are you talking about now!? I never called you an idiot or said you were flat-out wrong. until there is an official explanation, my opinion is just as valid as yours. and again, when you look at the actual map - there are more dots in eastern US and GOM than any other country. I am not deciding to make stuff up - only going on the graphical evidence provided... seriously, as you clearly know more than i possibly could - explain why there are more incidents around the GOM and East US....? Why is EM 'picking' on the US? Nope, that's not how "reality" works! ..and, again, there aren't more incidents around the GOM with respect to these early Jan 2011 bird and fish "die-off" events! You're just imagining it in your mind!!! and if you werent hostile, you would just simply reply "could be, but unlikely due to x,y & z". which you havent, you just reached straight in the bag of insults instead. and for someone that knows so much - how come you didnt even know what the oceanic conveyor belt was a few hours ago - but are some fucking expert on electro-magnetism... |
Juniper from Jupiter User ID: 1214567 United States 01/05/2011 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I totally think it's the magnetic field. My friend, my sister, my brother, and I all experienced power fluctuations at different times and in different places. When I called the the power company they said that they hadn't received any reports of power outages and reasons for why it would happen! My Mom just called and told me that their power kept going off and on all day at work today. And no one knows why. Last Edited by Juniper from Jupiter on 01/05/2011 06:13 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 812359 Netherlands 01/05/2011 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really interesting if you read the articles how animals navigate. They are like modern airplanes with backup systems using GPS, old compass and landarks. Though in their case, the stars, the sun, mountains and magnetic fields. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218364err landarks=landmarks Also, it is theorized they use magnetic fields when stars, the sun and landmarks are not visible. This may explain why the birds were found dead in the morning. but birds react to light. they should not have been flying at night time. when there is a solar ecplipse - all the birds shut up and go to sleep for 10 mins, then wake back up again as the sun re-appears. So if it's something EM related - the question is, why did EM supersede sunlight? It's fair enough to say that maybe their navi was off - but why did they take flight in the 1st place? According to this article from Iowa State University, some species do migrate at night. I do not know though whether the bird species affected fly at night. I skimmed the article, if I have more time perhaps I can look more into it. But perhaps someone else already knows the answer whether the species involved fly at night. ...Some birds need to stop to rest and feed during the day. This is when insects they eat are most active and available. These birds, then, migrate at night. They can find their way at night because they learn to follow the rotation of the stars. On cloudy nights, things like wind direction also help them to orient themselves. Other birds, like barn swallows, migrate during the day and feed on flying insects while they are in the air. That way, they are not limited to traveling at night because they can feed during flight... [link to www.extension.iastate.edu] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218364 United States 01/05/2011 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really interesting if you read the articles how animals navigate. They are like modern airplanes with backup systems using GPS, old compass and landarks. Though in their case, the stars, the sun, mountains and magnetic fields. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812359err landarks=landmarks Also, it is theorized they use magnetic fields when stars, the sun and landmarks are not visible. This may explain why the birds were found dead in the morning. but birds react to light. they should not have been flying at night time. when there is a solar ecplipse - all the birds shut up and go to sleep for 10 mins, then wake back up again as the sun re-appears. So if it's something EM related - the question is, why did EM supersede sunlight? It's fair enough to say that maybe their navi was off - but why did they take flight in the 1st place? According to this article from Iowa State University, some species do migrate at night. I do not know though whether the bird species affected fly at night. I skimmed the article, if I have more time perhaps I can look more into it. But perhaps someone else already knows the answer whether the species involved fly at night. ...Some birds need to stop to rest and feed during the day. This is when insects they eat are most active and available. These birds, then, migrate at night. They can find their way at night because they learn to follow the rotation of the stars. On cloudy nights, things like wind direction also help them to orient themselves. Other birds, like barn swallows, migrate during the day and feed on flying insects while they are in the air. That way, they are not limited to traveling at night because they can feed during flight... [link to www.extension.iastate.edu] fair enough - here are the birds that migrate at night - blackbirds are in there.. owls, thrushes, thrashers, catbirds, wood warblers, vireos, kinglets, nuthatches, creepers, wrens, gnatcatchers, cuckoos, buntings, rails, woodcocks, tanagers, orioles, blackbirds, bobolinks, and most species of sparrows. Some species that migrate either by day or by night include loons, grebes, ducks, geese, swans, shorebirds, swifts, and swallows hummingbirds, auks and murres. |
wirelessguru1 User ID: 1210655 United States 01/05/2011 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and if you werent hostile, you would just simply reply "could be, but unlikely due to x,y & z". which you havent, you just reached straight in the bag of insults instead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218364Rubbish! Look "Coward", you don't control how action-reaction works...in virtual reality (The Internet)!!! I am an independent thinkers and as such act and react accordingly, so grow up!!! and for someone that knows so much - how come you didnt even know what the oceanic conveyor belt was a few hours ago - but are some fucking expert on electro-magnetism... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218364There is no "conveyor belt", but there are Ocean currents and Atmospheric jet streams!!! ..and yes, I do indeed have EM degrees. The Invisible Universe! |
wirelessguru1 User ID: 1210655 United States 01/05/2011 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Mom just called and told me that their power kept going off and on all day at work today. And no one knows why. Quoting: Juniper from JupiterYEAP. My power also went off twice yesterday and we have no weather storm going on... :) The Invisible Universe! |
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spikeithard User ID: 971094 Canada 01/05/2011 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHAT IS GOING ON IS THE BEGINNING OF END GAME. THE PLANETARY/NATURE SPIRIT IS UP FOR GRADUATION. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094488WHEN ROBERT MONROE TOOK A CLASS ON ASSIGNMENT A WHILE BACK THEY ALL WENT TO THE YEAR 2200 AND ALL SAW NO LIFE (ALMOST NO LIFE) AND NO ROADS OR ANYTHING. SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND 2200. THIS INFORMATION IS FROM OUT OUT OF BODY PROCESSES FROM AN AWAKENED FINAL INCARNATION. AND FROM ROBERT MONROE HIMSELF. THIS IS THE START TO END GAME GLP'ERS. ITS GOING TO GET WORSE. SOON HUMANS WILL BE DOING THE SWAN DIVE TOO. that's not true. humans had evolved, changed form, and become non-carbon-based....meaning 'spirit'-based or electro-magnetic-energy-based...with the ability to transduce down into the carbon-based form when needed. not sure why i posted that. not like anyone will understand it. there may be a handful on here that are spiritually aware of whats going on to get what monroe and the 'author' of matrix V "The only thing in this world that gives orders... is balls. " |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218364 United States 01/05/2011 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and if you werent hostile, you would just simply reply "could be, but unlikely due to x,y & z". which you havent, you just reached straight in the bag of insults instead. Quoting: wirelessguru1Rubbish! Look "Coward", you don't control how action-reaction works...in virtual reality (The Internet)!!! I am an independent thinkers and as such act and react accordingly, so grow up!!! and for someone that knows so much - how come you didnt even know what the oceanic conveyor belt was a few hours ago - but are some fucking expert on electro-magnetism... There is no "conveyor belt", but there are Ocean currents and Atmospheric jet streams!!! ..and yes, I do indeed have EM degrees. what are you going on about? what the hell has action-reaction got to do with anything? Like everyone else, I just have unanswered questions I want answers to. surely someone with more than one degree would have learnt to argue with a bit more class? |
wirelessguru1 User ID: 1210655 United States 01/05/2011 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So let's say solar radiation is killing the animals? what effect does it have on us, don't some people think it's going to upgrade our DNA? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1079741Yeap, some species will become extinct (dinosaurs et al) and, of course, some new species will be re-programmed and then re-introduced... :) The Invisible Universe! |
Magnetotard User ID: 1040464 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok here's another part of my Magnetic Flux (MF) Theory Your a bird sitting in a tree, you know which way Up you are which way down is and left and right. Suddenly a Magnetic Flux takes place and like a MENIERES DISEASE victim your body doesn't know which way up it is. Magnetic Flux causes disorientation!!! in animals (Scientifically proven) Now instinctually birds will attempt to fly only this flying leads to you smashing yourself into the ground. Sound familiar? Look up Menieres disease effects. (not saying birds have this) Saying birds may experience a Similar affect when magnetic flux interferes with their systems. |
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wirelessguru1 User ID: 1210655 United States 01/05/2011 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what are you going on about? what the hell has action-reaction got to do with anything? Like everyone else, I just have unanswered questions I want answers to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218364surely someone with more than one degree would have learnt to argue with a bit more class? Again Coward, I argue the way that I want to argue. You do not control how I argue...wake up!!! Also, with that mental attitude of yours no wonder you have a bunch of unanswered questions! Again, wake up!!! +1 (Neo) The Invisible Universe! |
wirelessguru1 User ID: 1210655 United States 01/05/2011 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not sure why i posted that. not like anyone will understand it. there may be a handful on here that are spiritually aware of whats going on to get what monroe and the 'author' of matrix V Quoting: spikeithardTry me... :) +1 (Neo) The Invisible Universe! |