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Changes in magnetic field could be responsible for massive bird and fish die-offs

 
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So the planet/universe is just going to genocide all of us?
What is the difference if i wait or just kill myself now? How do i know i will be in 4D on the other side?

Not necessary "all" since the evidence clearly shows that the human species was able to "survive" the prior macro cycles even though all prior civilization did not!!!
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Are you suggesting that we will coalesce together and perish as a hive mentality. Just came to mind the bees dying off too and the fish swim in groups as the birds fly together, Hmm somthing worth looking at here. Yes man has survived some shit before but yet here we are alot of the evidence for this dye off exists, and much has been withheld as to why. Yes this is a so called naturaly occuring event but what is it then ? if what you propose is true this is of biblical proportion and it will only get worse before man finds the new "promised land" how many times has this happend in the past, before we got here.

Oh and by the way I have seen the otherside it looks like this side just not as dense and you communicate with thought.
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Are you suggesting that we will coalesce together and perish as a hive mentality. Just came to mind the bees dying off too and the fish swim in groups as the birds fly together, Hmm somthing worth looking at here. Yes man has survived some shit before but yet here we are alot of the evidence for this dye off exists, and much has been withheld as to why.
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The way that I see it "we" are not all the same!

Yes this is a so called naturaly occuring event but what is it then ? if what you propose is true this is of biblical proportion and it will only get worse before man finds the new "promised land" how many times has this happend in the past, before we got here.

Oh and by the way I have seen the otherside it looks like this side just not as dense and you communicate with thought.
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The way that I see it there are many other sides, many 3D reality channels, just like there are many radio and TV (frequency) channels...

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Re: Changes in magnetic field could be responsible for massive bird and fish die-offs
people naturally want to pick a polaric side. light or dark.. love or hate.. etc etc

the universe is balanced in its rules. people that want love and peace etc only invite more hate and war.

be an observer in these upcoming wild times. thats my best advice. observe the chaos and take notes (not literally)


Well, it is more like each one of us is a uni-verse in a multi-verse of possibilities since the cosmos is really a multi-verse.

..and don't worry, eventually everyONE will be forced to react...to the EM force, even the "observers"... :)

Unless, of course, the observers are completely neutral (not charged) and in full balance...with Nature.
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does anyone know if there has been a spike in heart related ER incedents in the last week or so? surely people with pace-makers would have had/felt problems with EM too, and would be the 1st humans to notice the beginning of changes with fitter humans noticing it a bit further down the line?
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ok,. I have said my piece. Im done here. night folks!

GO CANADA! GOLD!!!!!!!!
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Re: Changes in magnetic field could be responsible for massive bird and fish die-offs
The blood clots though, I don't have any idea could magnetism be to blame. could it interact with iron in the blood?
-quote.

ever seen the movie the X men?


iron is a mineral,

the human body tody is contaminated with heavy metals,

lead, mercury, aluminum, etc.

fire up the magnets and what do you get?

[link to www.youtube.com]

eat fiber... go to a steam room... sweat them out!
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Good article for this recently released

[link to news.discovery.com]
Seems maybe this is caused by this.
Maybe we are going to get cooked
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REallly, just HOW are they gonna explain all these dead birds away?

hhhhmmmm ...
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[link to earthacupuncture.info]

i posted something on this yesterday

earths energy killed them - follow the ley lines and earth grids and plot the carnage

1000 birds done the same last year in england over Glastonbury
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Were there any deaths in the "Band of Peace" where the Egyptian pyramids are? The lines there are extremely strong, especially between 3:00am and 5:00am.
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people naturally want to pick a polaric side. light or dark.. love or hate.. etc etc

the universe is balanced in its rules. people that want love and peace etc only invite more hate and war.

be an observer in these upcoming wild times. thats my best advice. observe the chaos and take notes (not literally)


Well, it is more like each one of us is a uni-verse in a multi-verse of possibilities since the cosmos is really a multi-verse.

..and don't worry, eventually everyONE will be forced to react...to the EM force, even the "observers"... :)

Unless, of course, the observers are completely neutral (not charged) and in full balance...with Nature.



does anyone know if there has been a spike in heart related ER incedents in the last week or so? surely people with pace-makers would have had/felt problems with EM too, and would be the 1st humans to notice the beginning of changes with fitter humans noticing it a bit further down the line?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218364

My friend has to go in for a stint to be put in tomarrow but this does not amount to a spike in heart related incidence..It was not forseen.
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[link to earthacupuncture.info]

i posted something on this yesterday

earths energy killed them - follow the ley lines and earth grids and plot the carnage

1000 birds done the same last year in england over Glastonbury


Were there any deaths in the "Band of Peace" where the Egyptian pyramids are? The lines there are extremely strong, especially between 3:00am and 5:00am.
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OK so should I go to a hot spot and wait for the zap ?
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Perhaps this is what TPTB have been building underground bunkers and preparing for.
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As well as the Norwegian seed bank. Everybody looks after their own. The real purpose for the existence of the underground facilities holds the key to identifying any foreseeable natural threat to life on Earth. But their existence is a top secret affair. They are the end of the rabbit hole.
"The forces of negation and death are now making their all-out suicidal effort. The citizens of the world are helpless in a paranoid panic.
First one thing and then another is seen as the enemy while the real enemy hesitates - perhaps because it looks too easy, like an ambush..."

- William Burroughs, Interzone.
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Re: Changes in magnetic field could be responsible for massive bird and fish die-offs
people naturally want to pick a polaric side. light or dark.. love or hate.. etc etc

the universe is balanced in its rules. people that want love and peace etc only invite more hate and war.

be an observer in these upcoming wild times. thats my best advice. observe the chaos and take notes (not literally)


Well, it is more like each one of us is a uni-verse in a multi-verse of possibilities since the cosmos is really a multi-verse.

..and don't worry, eventually everyONE will be forced to react...to the EM force, even the "observers"... :)

Unless, of course, the observers are completely neutral (not charged) and in full balance...with Nature.



does anyone know if there has been a spike in heart related ER incedents in the last week or so? surely people with pace-makers would have had/felt problems with EM too, and would be the 1st humans to notice the beginning of changes with fitter humans noticing it a bit further down the line?

My friend has to go in for a stint to be put in tomarrow but this does not amount to a spike in heart related incidence..It was not forseen.
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if it was truly a major global EM incedent, and peoples phone/ compass/ power supplies etc had been playing up - there would be multiple reports of people with pacemakers having problems. There is no way they could avoid them - unless they're now installing pacemakers with faraday cages?
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Perhaps this is what TPTB have been building underground bunkers and preparing for.


As well as the Norwegian seed bank. Everybody looks after their own. The real purpose for the existence of the underground facilities holds the key to identifying any foreseeable natural threat to life on Earth. But their existence is a top secret affair. They are the end of the rabbit hole.
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Yes Im going home and THEY are going on.
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if it was truly a major global EM incedent, and peoples phone/ compass/ power supplies etc had been playing up - there would be multiple reports of people with pacemakers having problems. There is no way they could avoid them - unless they're now installing pacemakers with faraday cages?



Compasses were going waco last night
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A year ago we had this - fake - emergency about H1N1 and a while back the bird flu.
I remember some doctors saying that there was no real problem with H1N1 but all of them were afraid of the possible scenario or H1N1 being mutated in a mix of human-bird virus.
What if this already happened and kills birds (for now)?
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Really interesting if you read the articles how animals navigate. They are like modern airplanes with backup systems using GPS, old compass and landarks. Though in their case, the stars, the sun, mountains and magnetic fields.

err landarks=landmarks

Also, it is theorized they use magnetic fields when stars, the sun and landmarks are not visible. This may explain why the birds were found dead in the morning.



but birds react to light. they should not have been flying at night time. when there is a solar ecplipse - all the birds shut up and go to sleep for 10 mins, then wake back up again as the sun re-appears. So if it's something EM related - the question is, why did EM supersede sunlight?

It's fair enough to say that maybe their navi was off - but why did they take flight in the 1st place?

According to this article from Iowa State University, some species do migrate at night. I do not know though whether the bird species affected fly at night. I skimmed the article, if I have more time perhaps I can look more into it. But perhaps someone else already knows the answer whether the species involved fly at night.

...Some birds need to stop to rest and feed during the day. This is when insects they eat are most active and available. These birds, then, migrate at night. They can find their way at night because they learn to follow the rotation of the stars. On cloudy nights, things like wind direction also help them to orient themselves. Other birds, like barn swallows, migrate during the day and feed on flying insects while they are in the air. That way, they are not limited to traveling at night because they can feed during flight...
[link to www.extension.iastate.edu]


fair enough - here are the birds that migrate at night - blackbirds are in there..


owls, thrushes, thrashers, catbirds, wood warblers, vireos, kinglets, nuthatches, creepers, wrens, gnatcatchers, cuckoos, buntings, rails, woodcocks, tanagers, orioles, blackbirds, bobolinks, and most species of sparrows. Some species that migrate either by day or by night include loons, grebes, ducks, geese, swans, shorebirds, swifts, and swallows hummingbirds, auks and murres.
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Hey thanks for the list! If possible, could you give the link?
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if it was truly a major global EM incedent, and peoples phone/ compass/ power supplies etc had been playing up - there would be multiple reports of people with pacemakers having problems. There is no way they could avoid them - unless they're now installing pacemakers with faraday cages?



Compasses were going waco last night
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1188711


I know compasses are fluctuating and have been for a lot longer now than a couple of days. but there's a big difference between a wonky compasses and extermination of life-forms, based on EM transgressions.
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Soon people with pacemakers will just drop dead. same like in the movie The Core

these movies

The Core
The day after tomorrow
2012
and more
are based on facts of course they do have some hollywood in them but thats to make the movie more interesting for the people, but the basic facts are still in the movies and they are real.



i like your theory.

but i wonder if there is a magnetic field change why only a handful of flocks have been affected? do you really think it's going to get worse?

i guess we would know in a few weeks if these stories keep popping up. i'm not sure what point i will change my mind from overhype from the media and general obsession with searching the net for every flock loss in the world no matter how small, and this actually being a definite problem for the future.

i wish an avian expert was on this site. would love to know a bit more about the history of all the effected birds, if they are more prone to these things, the height they fly at, etc. i'd like a real answer you know? not a UFO cloaking device answer.
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Really interesting if you read the articles how animals navigate. They are like modern airplanes with backup systems using GPS, old compass and landarks. Though in their case, the stars, the sun, mountains and magnetic fields.

err landarks=landmarks

Also, it is theorized they use magnetic fields when stars, the sun and landmarks are not visible. This may explain why the birds were found dead in the morning.



but birds react to light. they should not have been flying at night time. when there is a solar ecplipse - all the birds shut up and go to sleep for 10 mins, then wake back up again as the sun re-appears. So if it's something EM related - the question is, why did EM supersede sunlight?

It's fair enough to say that maybe their navi was off - but why did they take flight in the 1st place?

According to this article from Iowa State University, some species do migrate at night. I do not know though whether the bird species affected fly at night. I skimmed the article, if I have more time perhaps I can look more into it. But perhaps someone else already knows the answer whether the species involved fly at night.

...Some birds need to stop to rest and feed during the day. This is when insects they eat are most active and available. These birds, then, migrate at night. They can find their way at night because they learn to follow the rotation of the stars. On cloudy nights, things like wind direction also help them to orient themselves. Other birds, like barn swallows, migrate during the day and feed on flying insects while they are in the air. That way, they are not limited to traveling at night because they can feed during flight...
[link to www.extension.iastate.edu]


fair enough - here are the birds that migrate at night - blackbirds are in there..


owls, thrushes, thrashers, catbirds, wood warblers, vireos, kinglets, nuthatches, creepers, wrens, gnatcatchers, cuckoos, buntings, rails, woodcocks, tanagers, orioles, blackbirds, bobolinks, and most species of sparrows. Some species that migrate either by day or by night include loons, grebes, ducks, geese, swans, shorebirds, swifts, and swallows hummingbirds, auks and murres.

Hey thanks for the list! If possible, could you give the link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812359



i just googled "birds that migrate at night"....it was a link in the top 5 choices. cant remember which one.
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if it was truly a major global EM incedent, and peoples phone/ compass/ power supplies etc had been playing up - there would be multiple reports of people with pacemakers having problems. There is no way they could avoid them - unless they're now installing pacemakers with faraday cages?



Compasses were going waco last night
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1188711

I started searching on this yesterday. Sadly there is no up to date pacemaker death statistics that i could find. In fact, I have only found just a few pacemaker statistics at all, and they are old
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Ok I just posted in another thread about this

After yesterdays thread about compass readings, I had my compass beside me for about 4 hours and checked it randomly for the majority of the day..

everything was as it should be

so I figured everyone else was losing their minds.

I just checked my compass now and I am 10 degrees out

wtf
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Soon people with pacemakers will just drop dead. same like in the movie The Core

these movies

The Core
The day after tomorrow
2012
and more
are based on facts of course they do have some hollywood in them but thats to make the movie more interesting for the people, but the basic facts are still in the movies and they are real.




i like your theory.

but i wonder if there is a magnetic field change why only a handful of flocks have been affected? do you really think it's going to get worse?

i guess we would know in a few weeks if these stories keep popping up. i'm not sure what point i will change my mind from overhype from the media and general obsession with searching the net for every flock loss in the world no matter how small, and this actually being a definite problem for the future.

i wish an avian expert was on this site. would love to know a bit more about the history of all the effected birds, if they are more prone to these things, the height they fly at, etc. i'd like a real answer you know? not a UFO cloaking device answer.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218402


if EM is affecting power supplies, compass, phones and killing fish and birds - then people with pacemakers will at the very least have had something to shit themselves about in the last few days. maybe not death, but certainly a increase in ER visits/ phonecalls to Dr's etc from concerned patients - it would be totally unavoidable.
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A year ago we had this - fake - emergency about H1N1 and a while back the bird flu.
I remember some doctors saying that there was no real problem with H1N1 but all of them were afraid of the possible scenario or H1N1 being mutated in a mix of human-bird virus.
What if this already happened and kills birds (for now)?
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Explain the fish
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if EM is affecting power supplies, compass, phones and killing fish and birds - then people with pacemakers will at the very least have had something to shit themselves about in the last few days. maybe not death, but certainly a increase in ER visits/ phonecalls to Dr's etc from concerned patients - it would be totally unavoidable.
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Not necessarily. It depends on the design of the pacemakers!

EM is not the same as EMP!!!

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Its not the magnetosphere - its a MAJOR quake about to hapeen any time.
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[link to earthacupuncture.info]

i posted something on this yesterday

earths energy killed them - follow the ley lines and earth grids and plot the carnage

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218429






[link to maps.google.com]
[link to earthacupuncture.info]


It's hard to positively note abundant correlations with these maps.


But... the valid point is most certainly taken.
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[link to maps.google.com]





[link to earthacupuncture.info]

That link is very annoying, can't post direct links to pics...

Scroll down 3/4 of the page, there is a black and white map in the middle...

The areas do add up for the most part.

Definitely strange...
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Its not the magnetosphere - its a MAJOR quake about to hapeen any time.
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Some of us are indeed expecting that...

Please note that Earthquake are really EM events like lightening strikes from the core towards the surface (crust)...

Also, electro-magnetically or wirelessly speaking all things are connected based on frequency...
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Somebody said the birds could have went through some freezing mist??
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I'm not a doomtard but this is without a doubt the most interesting doom of 2011. hiding
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Compass readings normal in Honolulu.





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