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BREAKING NEWS: New 9/11 Murder? Was John P. (Jack) Wheeler III About to Blow a Whistle?

 
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How about this: Maybe wheeler isn't really dead, maybe a look-alike body was planted in the garbage along with the videos and the argument with the neighbor. He'll never be seen again and is likely working for the Ruskies or the Chinese where the money was right, or deeper in our own corrupted government, but again, never to be seen again.

Has anyone listed the cause of death yet? They call it a homicide, with no listed cause of death.
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Death seems real; everything since seems disinfo
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How about this: Maybe wheeler isn't really dead, maybe a look-alike body was planted in the garbage along with the videos and the argument with the neighbor. He'll never be seen again and is likely working for the Ruskies or the Chinese where the money was right, or deeper in our own corrupted government, but again, never to be seen again.

Has anyone listed the cause of death yet? They call it a homicide, with no listed cause of death.

Death seems real; everything since seems disinfo
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Not everything. But it certainly is hard to sift through the facts, as this man had his hand in so many cookie jars. Personally I think that the John Wheeler is an arsonist approach is such utter bullshit.

His neighbor didn't kill him. He didn't torch his neighbors home. Had John Wheeler wanted to he could have called in a precision air-strike on his neighbors home, had him professionally killed, packaged and sold as spam on super market shelves if he wanted.

So the John Wheeler the II is an arsonist, his neighbor is a murderer approach is sheer bullshit and not remotely credible for professional police agencies.



I would suggest that the time Jack's torture at his home ended was about the same time the incendiary device was thrown at the house under construction. The smoke bomb was a diversion, to offer another possibility for motive, and to confuse the issue of his mental stability. The television was left loud after the torture/discovery/floorboard removal had ended to confuse the time line. The more authorities claim the house was not part of the crime scene, the more likely that something took place there.

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Very conviencing evidence and thread.
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This was a classic mob hit.
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This was a classic mob hit.
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Now this is an interesting thought. What is the fine line, if any between a mafia hit, and a government assassination? Is there any difference at all?

I am inclined to think not.


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Yeah, the neighbor story is a stupid diversion.

There is no way the CFR/Jason Group/Mitre people would let this happen to one of their own, unless they were behind it themselves.

The thing to remember, is Mitre knows everything. They have every Intelligence Agency, Military Branch and Contractor, the SEC, FAA, and many more as software customers. This means they have front and back doors into every one's software.

Why is Warren Buffet such a good prognosticator? Because he has the REAL crystal ball. Nobody on the planet can fart without Mitre knowing about it, including the above named agencies.

Jack was at the SEC at the time when economic warfare was used against the Soviets, so even when he was not working for the DoD, he was still involved in warfare.

Mitre developed the software used by the SEC to monitor trading, and therefore knows everything that happens in the Global Financial Markets, before anyone else. What a fine tool for Mr. Buffet.
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This was a classic mob hit.


Now this is an interesting thought. What is the fine line, if any between a mafia hit, and a government assassination? Is there any difference at all?

I am inclined to think not.


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Reminds me of the old joke, how can you tell when the men in black suits knock at the door whether they're the Mob or the FBI?

The mob guys will be more polite.


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I hope people will put this on the back burner and keep researching it as time goes by, because this murder shouldn't be forgotten, It is significant, we might not know how or why, but it is highly significant.

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Yet another bizarre death - nothing to see here.
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I hope people will put this on the back burner and keep researching it as time goes by, because this murder shouldn't be forgotten, It is significant, we might not know how or why, but it is highly significant.

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The Media are already silent, except for selling the neighbor angle quietly.

They hope it will just go away. Fortunately, a lot of people are intrigued by the story, and will continue to ask questions.

Sorry Mitre!
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Yet another bizarre death - nothing to see here.
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His wife owns a company that trades in Cambodian silk products.

Kinda reminds me of Joe Wilson/Valerie Plame, another famous spy couple.

It is hard for me to imagine a scenario whereby I could be missing for days and my wife not having any idea where I was and what I was doing.

This story is bizarre on so many levels.
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I looked at her site and it SUCKS. Next to nothing on there in terms of products. IT'S A FRONT COMPANY.
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IMO he was about to warn of another 9/11 like event yet to happen.

Wasn't it rumored that Monica Lewinski was about to warn about 9/11?
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bump hf
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His wife owns a company that trades in Cambodian silk products.

Kinda reminds me of Joe Wilson/Valerie Plame, another famous spy couple.

It is hard for me to imagine a scenario whereby I could be missing for days and my wife not having any idea where I was and what I was doing.

This story is bizarre on so many levels.



I looked at her site and it SUCKS. Next to nothing on there in terms of products. IT'S A FRONT COMPANY.
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Isn't it obvious that she has been conveniently nowhere to be found while all of this is going on? Where are the news cameras on the grieving widow? Where is the sobbing news conference where she begs for info to find the killer?

She's a spook if there ever was one, or my name's not anonymous coward.
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His wife owns a company that trades in Cambodian silk products.

Kinda reminds me of Joe Wilson/Valerie Plame, another famous spy couple.

It is hard for me to imagine a scenario whereby I could be missing for days and my wife not having any idea where I was and what I was doing.

This story is bizarre on so many levels.



I looked at her site and it SUCKS. Next to nothing on there in terms of products. IT'S A FRONT COMPANY.



Isn't it obvious that she has been conveniently nowhere to be found while all of this is going on? Where are the news cameras on the grieving widow? Where is the sobbing news conference where she begs for info to find the killer?

She's a spook if there ever was one, or my name's not anonymous coward.
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A spook who travels to SE Asia, no less.


If Wheeler was a cyber security expert, I wonder what he may have known about Suxnet. I think that's a huge story that we know damn little about.

Found this interesting quote from Wheeler, re Wikileaks:

But according to Dr. Jack Wheeler, a longtime Washington insider, all the burnishing in the world won’t help. Everyone “should shout Hallelujah for the enormous act of public service Assange has performed,” Wheeler writes. “He has single-handedly obliterated – as in nuked – Hillary Clinton’s chances for the White House. `The greatest foreign policy disaster in US history` has happened on Hillary’s watch. Any chief executive would have to fire her, and Zero [Wheeler’s name for Obama] needs a scapegoat in any regard. Her political career is over – finita la musica, the Clinton’s music is finished. Thanks, Julian.”

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What kind of "expert" thinks Wikileaks is the greatest Foreign Policy disaster in US History?

I could think of quite a few that were far worse, so he is of course trying to sell us some expert bullshit there.



He was an expert on cyber-security, chemical warfare, nuclear deployment, Financial Markets, the Law, etc..

What the hell was this guy NOT an expert on?

He was an expert on whatever his handlers needed him to be an expert on at any given moment. He was a spook's spook, married to a spook, and died the death of a spook caught out in the cold.
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What about that fellow spillin' the ill-luminous beans in the last few dayz, where is he ?

ask him, no?
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I heard a rumor that he provided the Muslim hijackers with their boxcuttetrs.
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I heard a rumor that he provided the Muslim hijackers with their boxcuttetrs.
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Fuck No!


That was Hillary Clinton!
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What kind of "expert" thinks Wikileaks is the greatest Foreign Policy disaster in US History?

I could think of quite a few that were far worse, so he is of course trying to sell us some expert bullshit there.



He was an expert on cyber-security, chemical warfare, nuclear deployment, Financial Markets, the Law, etc..

What the hell was this guy NOT an expert on?

He was an expert on whatever his handlers needed him to be an expert on at any given moment. He was a spook's spook, married to a spook, and died the death of a spook caught out in the cold.
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I dunno why he would say that about Wikileaks, though it was from two or three months ago - maybe he was expecting more. Hard to say. Sounds like he doesn't like Obama or Clinton, though.

I agree about spook.
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But according to Dr. Jack Wheeler, a longtime Washington insider, all the burnishing in the world won’t help. Everyone “should shout Hallelujah for the enormous act of public service Assange has performed,” Wheeler writes. “He has single-handedly obliterated – as in nuked – Hillary Clinton’s chances for the White House. `The greatest foreign policy disaster in US history` has happened on Hillary’s watch. Any chief executive would have to fire her, and Zero [Wheeler’s name for Obama] needs a scapegoat in any regard. Her political career is over – finita la musica, the Clinton’s music is finished. Thanks, Julian.”

A pretty interesting comment; I wonder how many Washington insiders, such as Hillary might have had a motive for murder?
It would take a small phone book to fill with all the people who had motives to snuff this guy.


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It's obvious the CIA provided AssAnge with his info, so of course Wheeler knew what was coming in advance.
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It's obvious the CIA provided AssAnge with his info, so of course Wheeler knew what was coming in advance.
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And if Wheeler knew, then Buffet knows.

See how easy it is to become and remain a billionaire? See how old Warren Buffet id it? Now you know he isn't a elf made man, he was given those billions to serve them with.


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Warren Buffet's Grandfather, James Delaney Buffet,(also Jimmy Buffet's) was among the last of the great sailing Sea Captains. The last from an age when Sea Captains had direct lines to Kings and Queens.

Like the railroad after it, the Sea Captain in the age of ships could destroy a settlement simply by not stopping there with supplies any more. They were in their time, the only Foreign Intelligence Service, as they sailed the seven seas as directed and gathered information to be acted upon by the Elite.

They could make or break a Company, Settlement, or Country. They could decide whether your crops would be shipped to market, or rot on the docks, as their masters wished.

Warren today raids and controls markets in exactly the same way.

Nothing has changed, not even the names.
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Wasn't it rumored that Monica Lewinski was about to warn about 9/11?


she knew something was going to be pulled down
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Yes she did.............clintons zipper :)
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Are the mods afraid to pin this?
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The mods dont post meaningful things.
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FWIW, Dupont whose headquarters are in Wilmington Delaware, is routinely using massive quantities of phosgene AFAIK for the manufacture of crystal violet dyes used in ball point pens inks, isocyanates, etc...

Read this so you know it's not bullshit:

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FWIW, Dupont whose headquarters are in Wilmington Delaware, is routinely using massive quantities of phosgene AFAIK for the manufacture of crystal violet dyes used in ball point pens inks, isocyanates, etc...

Read this so you know it's not bullshit:
[link to www.chemistry-blog.com]
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Here is the quote (from Jan 26 2010) btw:

Carl “Dan” Fish, a worker at the DuPont plant in Belle West Virginia, died this past Sunday due to phosgene exposure. Only scant details about the incident have been released by DuPont thus far, but this is what we have been told.

On Saturday afternoon a site employee was exposed to Phosgene from a leaking transfer hose. The hose was not in service when the leak occurred but did contain a small amount residual Phosgene from an earlier use.





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