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COMPOUND BOW'S, HELP PLEASE.........

 
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and BTW.....you don't need an 85# bow....thats just macho crap that will tear up your shoulders as you get older.
These bows today are 320 plus fps..(feet per second)...it is more than enough to harvest anything in North America...

The point was about compound bows pulling through the 85lb mark till they rest at 45lb. Shooting with a longbow to the Mark is about trying out OLD War Bow strengths,not about machismo.
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch



well, now your talking about let off. Most these new bows are 80% let off. So, you saying you pull a 85# long bow, that has no let off?
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and BTW.....you don't need an 85# bow....thats just macho crap that will tear up your shoulders as you get older.
These bows today are 320 plus fps..(feet per second)...it is more than enough to harvest anything in North America...

The point was about compound bows pulling through the 85lb mark till they rest at 45lb. Shooting with a longbow to the Mark is about trying out OLD War Bow strengths,not about machismo.



well, now your talking about let off. Most these new bows are 80% let off. So, you saying you pull a 85# long bow, that has no let off?
 Quoting: Bowhunter 1216862

I pull a 110 lb long bow there is no let off. It's an artillary weapon really, so no need to hold; just stretch and shoot.
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I have this one from PSE ,65 pound draw, shoots nice.
[link to www.pse-archery.com]


Remember, those nice 85 pound draws... you have to pull all that back. I think most states, killing draw is 45lbs. Bow hunting is about skill, not farthest shots. A well placed shot with a 45pound browning using good tracking is more effective than huffing and puffing trying to draw a heavy string on a distance shot (or anyshot for that matter) I'd go to an archery shop, they'll let you mess with their stuff.
 Quoting: Brutalsun

pse..pull shoot explode
na there ok just stuffing with you.
i agree i think 60 pound is the best for someone who is new to the sport,as most ppl can pull it back with out getting the shakes.
it is allso the higest poundage you can use in aba target archery{not 3daa ect} and a well placed shot will drop all most anything.
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and BTW.....you don't need an 85# bow....thats just macho crap that will tear up your shoulders as you get older.
These bows today are 320 plus fps..(feet per second)...it is more than enough to harvest anything in North America...



True, but Deer can't duck under these.

My first bow hunt was with a Bear Whitetail 2 (197 fps) and when I released, the deer shot out all four legs and hit the ground and the arrow went over it.

I swore after that it would never happen again. The next weekend I went out and bought a Mathew's ZMAX set for 70lbs and 320fps. Have not had a problem since.

Now I'm up to 360 fps with a 29" draw. Overkill yes....I can always fall back on my Zmax if I have shoulder issues.
 Quoting: FatalWishes


Zmax...still excellent bow:-)

owner of two reezen 6.5, MQ1, and a prestige....I only shoot 40# and never had a problem...complete pass throughs at max distance of 30 yards....and I mostly harvest white tail at 20 yards and less. Arrow in flight is what they hear, and the further you try to shoot, the more time a white tail has to react to that arrow in flight. Most guys claim they jump the string, this is not true, if you have ever seen a slow motion video, you will see the eyes tracking that arrow in flight.
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and BTW.....you don't need an 85# bow....thats just macho crap that will tear up your shoulders as you get older.
These bows today are 320 plus fps..(feet per second)...it is more than enough to harvest anything in North America...

The point was about compound bows pulling through the 85lb mark till they rest at 45lb. Shooting with a longbow to the Mark is about trying out OLD War Bow strengths,not about machismo.



well, now your talking about let off. Most these new bows are 80% let off. So, you saying you pull a 85# long bow, that has no let off?

I pull a 110 lb long bow there is no let off. It's an artillary weapon really, so no need to hold; just stretch and shoot.
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch


Kool....if your able to do that.

I plan on getting a long bow soon. Never shot one, but would like to.
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Mark Stretton pulling a 220lb Elm Self bow. Archery Hero Of mine!




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Mark Stretton pulling a 220lb Elm Self bow. Archery Hero Of mine!



 Quoting: Richard Eldritch



wow.....I don't know much about long bows, I was not even aware that they make a poundage like that. But, I guess you can get anything custom made.


hey, I gotta go to work now, but I'll check in later. I work in the Archery Industry....so, if I can help anyone here...just let me know...
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Here is how archery is done German style.

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Mark Stretton pulling a 220lb Elm Self bow. Archery Hero Of mine!






wow.....I don't know much about long bows, I was not even aware that they make a poundage like that. But, I guess you can get anything custom made.


hey, I gotta go to work now, but I'll check in later. I work in the Archery Industry....so, if I can help anyone here...just let me know...
 Quoting: Bowhunter 1216862

Easier if you register mate,then we can find you if we need to?
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A Hoyt is always good. about 85lb.
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98% of the earth's population could not even pull an 85# ordinary compound bow.

OP -- go to a good archery store and talk to a pro. The money you save buying on-line will be totally wasted trying to get your bow setup and adjusted correctly. A bow must be adjusted to your body. An improperly set up bow has almost zero value. The crossbow is an exception to this rule.
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219398

Thats cool,I'm not keen on game myself and Chickens are no fun to shoot!
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf
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Of course, who the hell would eat it while it's still twitching?
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Zmax...still excellent bow:-)

owner of two reezen 6.5, MQ1, and a prestige....I only shoot 40# and never had a problem...complete pass throughs at max distance of 30 yards....and I mostly harvest white tail at 20 yards and less. Arrow in flight is what they hear, and the further you try to shoot, the more time a white tail has to react to that arrow in flight. Most guys claim they jump the string, this is not true, if you have ever seen a slow motion video, you will see the eyes tracking that arrow in flight.
 Quoting: Bowhunter 1216862


I almost bought an MQ1, that is a really nice bow. Interesting on the arrow flight. I was one of those guys that thought they jumped the string.
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf


Of course, who the hell would eat it while it's still twitching?
 Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINT

scheming
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20 yards, penetration.. 3 inch drop SLING BOW. CHEAP EFFICIENT SURVIVAL TOOL.. i have used variations of this in hawaii. we made them out of walmart slingshots and spare speargun gear. this is the best bang for the buck. very simple very effective. if u know how to STALK. u can get within 20 yards of most anything and penetrate with a razor tip



i bought a old skool 2 cam breakdown compound bow on ebay for $25 delivered. it is adjustable 45-60lbs by TIGER. i took it to a local archery range. had the owner do a $15 service on it. and it worked great on their competition range.

yoda
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf

Thats cool,I'm not keen on game myself and Chickens are no fun to shoot!
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch

Turkeys are very hard to hunt with a bow, taste good, and are fun to shoot.
I agree, chickens are no fun.
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Mark Stretton pulling a 220lb Elm Self bow. Archery Hero Of mine!






wow.....I don't know much about long bows, I was not even aware that they make a poundage like that. But, I guess you can get anything custom made.


hey, I gotta go to work now, but I'll check in later. I work in the Archery Industry....so, if I can help anyone here...just let me know...

Easier if you register mate,then we can find you if we need to?
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch

+1000 Get a cool ass name like 'ArcherGod' with a sig that says "Check my poundage"!
I am Richardus Strongus. Father to a murdered 'Refreshtard' thread, Husband to a deleted Top 10 thread. I will have my vengeance on the Lightworkers ..in this life or the next.
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf


Of course, who the hell would eat it while it's still twitching?

scheming
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch


Barbarian!
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

:Brieffromnativea:
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20 yards, penetration.. 3 inch drop SLING BOW. CHEAP EFFICIENT SURVIVAL TOOL.. i have used variations of this in hawaii. we made them out of walmart slingshots and spare speargun gear. this is the best bang for the buck. very simple very effective. if u know how to STALK. u can get within 20 yards of most anything and penetrate with a razor tip



i bought a old skool 2 cam breakdown compound bow on ebay for $25 delivered. it is adjustable 45-60lbs by TIGER. i took it to a local archery range. had the owner do a $15 service on it. and it worked great on their competition range.

yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1126871

Weird! but good weird! bit low on power though, 20 yards is quite close.
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf

Thats cool,I'm not keen on game myself and Chickens are no fun to shoot!

Turkeys are very hard to hunt with a bow, taste good, and are fun to shoot.
I agree, chickens are no fun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219306


Do you know that Turkey's can see white? So, never use white fletching when hunting turkey.:-)

The same with blue and white tail, they see blue like we see florescent orange, so never use blue fletching when hunting white tail.
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Mark Stretton pulling a 220lb Elm Self bow. Archery Hero Of mine!






wow.....I don't know much about long bows, I was not even aware that they make a poundage like that. But, I guess you can get anything custom made.


hey, I gotta go to work now, but I'll check in later. I work in the Archery Industry....so, if I can help anyone here...just let me know...

Easier if you register mate,then we can find you if we need to?

+1000 Get a cool ass name like 'ArcherGod' with a sig that says "Check my poundage"!
 Quoting: Richard Strong

chuckle Could have threads such as "Look how far I can pull my wood back!!! Jus lookatit!!!
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219398


same here, only for food....

so 3d outdoor competing is how I shoot for fun....
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf

Thats cool,I'm not keen on game myself and Chickens are no fun to shoot!

Turkeys are very hard to hunt with a bow, taste good, and are fun to shoot.
I agree, chickens are no fun.


Do you know that Turkey's can see white? So, never use white fletching when hunting turkey.:-)

The same with blue and white tail, they see blue like we see florescent orange, so never use blue fletching when hunting white tail.
 Quoting: Bowhunter 1216862

not many Turkey running around Blightey! (well not the feathered kind anyway) but good tips Bowhunter dude!
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20 yards, penetration.. 3 inch drop SLING BOW. CHEAP EFFICIENT SURVIVAL TOOL.. i have used variations of this in hawaii. we made them out of walmart slingshots and spare speargun gear. this is the best bang for the buck. very simple very effective. if u know how to STALK. u can get within 20 yards of most anything and penetrate with a razor tip



i bought a old skool 2 cam breakdown compound bow on ebay for $25 delivered. it is adjustable 45-60lbs by TIGER. i took it to a local archery range. had the owner do a $15 service on it. and it worked great on their competition range.

yoda
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That is awesome. Nice little survival item to have.
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For small game hunting, a 27# draw recurve is perfect, for larger game 55# or 65#. Damon Howatt, PSE, Ben Pearson are excellent user bows. PSE makes a takedown which is quite nice. Get 2 sets of limbs and you have a great hunting solution.

Compound bow offers greater precision, primarily because of the mechanical advantage, yet they are I found, slow for repetitive shooting. Great to be able to mount all sorts of fancy flipper arrow rests, sights, stabilizers etc that can promote great repetitive precision if shooting at stationary targets. Yet, they are heavy, not practical to carry dissembled, and bulky in the woods.

Kid or beginner type fiberglass bows are also worth having. We own one compound of 65# draw, 65 & 55 takedowns, 27 & 45 recurves, plus about 4 entry level light pull bows.

A 65# pull will deliver an aluminum shaft Easton arrow with 125gr field/practice point through 1/2" plywood from 30yds all day long. Unless you are going to hunt saltwater crocodile with your bow, 55 pound pull should be all you might ever need in Australia.

A good quiver, plenty of arrows, and maintenance gear with a few spare bowstrings should be all the accessories you might need. A pin sight is a great field accuracy aid. Good shooting glove and wrist guard, of course; plus a bow stringer.

For hunting, the right camouflage clothing or well concealed blind will do wonders. Have had deer within petting range of my hand on couple of occasions. Might look into flu-flu vaned arrows for close range bird shooting and also a reel setup if you might use your bow to take fish. Learn to fletch and straighten your arrows and you will have a great and reliable game gathering tool.
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A Hoyt is always good. about 85lb.





98% of the earth's population could not even pull an 85# ordinary compound bow.

OP -- go to a good archery store and talk to a pro. The money you save buying on-line will be totally wasted trying to get your bow setup and adjusted correctly. A bow must be adjusted to your body. An improperly set up bow has almost zero value. The crossbow is an exception to this rule.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219388


This is good advise....they will properly measure you for draw....they will also spine your arrows correctly for the poundage you pull. At a pro shop, you will get a custom build right, the first time. You will also get proper instructions on form. etc...overall, you will be most successful if you buy from a pro- shop.
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf

Thats cool,I'm not keen on game myself and Chickens are no fun to shoot!

Turkeys are very hard to hunt with a bow, taste good, and are fun to shoot.
I agree, chickens are no fun.


Do you know that Turkey's can see white? So, never use white fletching when hunting turkey.:-)

The same with blue and white tail, they see blue like we see florescent orange, so never use blue fletching when hunting white tail.

not many Turkey running around Blightey! (well not the feathered kind anyway) but good tips Bowhunter dude!
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch

dudett....and thank you...
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and BTW.....you don't need an 85# bow....thats just macho crap that will tear up your shoulders as you get older.
These bows today are 320 plus fps..(feet per second)...it is more than enough to harvest anything in North America...

The point was about compound bows pulling through the 85lb mark till they rest at 45lb. Shooting with a longbow to the Mark is about trying out OLD War Bow strengths,not about machismo.
 Quoting: Richard Eldritch



Not all bows have the same "let off" brutha..
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I don't shoot critters though.I shoot to the mark.


I only shoot game for food, never for fun.
And I always make sure to shoot it dead, so no suffer.

hf

Thats cool,I'm not keen on game myself and Chickens are no fun to shoot!

Turkeys are very hard to hunt with a bow, taste good, and are fun to shoot.
I agree, chickens are no fun.


Do you know that Turkey's can see white? So, never use white fletching when hunting turkey.:-)

The same with blue and white tail, they see blue like we see florescent orange, so never use blue fletching when hunting white tail.

not many Turkey running around Blightey! (well not the feathered kind anyway) but good tips Bowhunter dude!

dudett....and thank you...
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oh my god! she's Sarah Palin....... ahhh
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