HOAs are unconstitutional

We have some old bitties that are the HOA snoops.
They walk around taking notes of violations.
One of these days I'm going to moon them.

The HOA only has jurisdiction over the "common areas" so the property isn't private.

I would NEVER buy in a HOA area. Just a bunch of power hungry people who want to run other people lives. Humm sound familiar?

HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS - A New Form Of Government

It is estimated that over 50 million Americans live in approximately 205,000 covenant-controlled communities, governed by a homeowner association.

These planned communities and homeowner associations have evolved from a utopian socialistic ideal to undemocratic, private governments that govern without a Bill of Rights and proper checks and balances.

More and more Americans are moving into these types of communities every year, But this is more a cause of the spreading of association-governed housing developments than an actual desire by Americans to live in this type of community.

One could argue that an HOA is a modern and legalized dictatorship.

[link to www.usrw.org]

It's usually in the deed, a legal contract.

Otherwise, yes.

you know what else is unconstitutional?

Denying people entry into the USA because they are Muslim.

Could you show us where in the Constitution it says that?

And where it is being done?

HOA is bullshit parasite just like an AWALT

No its not they are denied because we lack security at this time its not JUST muslims though - Also its more a Money issue he have homeless children freezing to death in the street we Cant afford to fly muzlims over here give the food stamps give them housing and give them health care - Maybe someday but right now NO!

My property (20 acres) borders up to a HOA gated community and I have lived there long before they built the community.
They seem to think my property falls under their jurisdiction.
I am constantly getting "notices" that my fencing is not to standard, that there is no child proof fence around my stock tank/pond etc...
I have already taken them to court over this and have a writ from the judge stating that my property does not fall under their jurisdiction.
I've just been saving the notices so I can haul them into court again for harassment.
BTW, you would have to trespass (I have signs up) to see my pond which sits in the middle of my property.

Are you being forced to live in a community that has an HOA?

Learn the law, they are not unconstitutional. You are not forced to live in a HOA. They are completely voluntary. The constitution and SCOTUS both protect the right to freely enter into contract. If you do not like the rules you should not have moved there. I live in and own rental properties in a HOA. It is great, it keeps the property values up.
Now municipal codes I agree can cross into the realm of unconstitutional, however it depends on your state. People assume the federal constitution is what binds the GOVT in their lives. Not so, it is your state constitution that matters when determining the validity of an ordinance/code/statute/regulation/covenant

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Ppl break them all the time. Clothlines and shit

You don't know shit. I inherited a house in a HOA community and I never signed any contract. They have nothing with my signature on it. But yet it is assumed that because I own the house then there is a binding contract.


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More like a quasi minigovernment with little or no legal oversight.
To learn more about Hoa's google neighborsatwar.

you signed the contract...

So did the board.

it sucks but Non Profit Associations are

the cornerstone of our constitution as it

is a totally private association that


you do not have to join

fighting fighting fighting...

selling

I built a new garden of eden on near 13 acres inside of one that was abandonded years ago after the big crash.

Motherfuckers came back to life and now I fight until I sell

Inherited or not you are choosing to live there, you can sell it. Take it to court if you are right maybe your state is different I just practice law in Kansas and Colorado.

If the HOA was in effect when you purchased your house, then you are bound by it's rules because you were given notice before you closed on the purchase. You can volunteer and eventually take over it, because the fuddy duddies that run them have to have their afternoon naps and they tire easily.

If the HOA was put in place after you purchased your land then you are not required to obey it's rules. If you join it at a later date then you have bound your property from then on.

The questionable instance would be if your parents owned the property before the formation of an HOA and never vountarily joined but then died and you inherited it would you be subject to their rules? I wouldn't think so but that would be a gray area.

Out a security camera system up. Then, when you catch them trespassing, call the cops.

Here is how it works. They reserve the right to up your HOA fees anytime they want to. Then they sub-contract out the policing out to a private company of NAZI enforcers.

Then the people that always get elected to run the HOA give out lucrative contracts to their buddies to maintain the pool, tennis courts and common areas. Lots of under the table money being given back to the HOA heads.

Then they write up residents constantly for having weeds in their yards. This forces you to hire a weed company to spray your lawn with poisonous weed killers. When it rains these poisons drain down to the nearest creek polluting the creek.

Our HOA is so destructive that they won't allow you to have screens on the windows that face the front of the house. Says it is "eye pollution". When it gets hot in the summer then it means you can not open your front windows and get any circulation. This forces you to turn your air conditioner on full force. Using up electricity, big electrical bills. More pollution using up electricity unnecessarily.

Most of these HOA nazis are self described liberal and supposed to be green advocates but the truth is they are the biggest polluters alive.

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They need to be abolished.

You have a right to put up solar panels on your property. You have a right to have an emergency generator. You have a right to a wind turbine. You have a right to grow vegetables.

when you bought the property, you waived your right to make choices about things. They are 100% constitutional cause you agreed to it.

If you don't agree to the rules, don't buy that property.
Granted lots of areas are HOA only, but you knew about it when you bought the house...

I've often thought to myself that I'd absolutely live in a HOA type home since they're some of the most beautifully, expansive houses I've seen physically and in other ways, but I don't want to live in such neighborhoods for the OP's reasons and I still want to retain my freedom and privacy allotted to me through living in the countryside. So I'd rather buy a few acres minimum in the countryside and build a HOA-like home or better on said property.

Seriously. Do not buy a home in a HOA neighborhood.

Not if you go by the founding father about one such group who are never to be allow to migrate to the USA. That was Muslims, because of the government religion, it not a religion is government control of people by religion, and they try to force it on people. Truly it about how they act toward others, in the case of pushing against the governments and other people. They fight and try to kill people who do not do their bidding. That what was said then, and it seems to hold to the same today. They never look at what wrong with their masters.

Dumb ass home'owners' you are a tenant on the property that is owned by the county.

interesting thread.