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JESUS SACRIFICED 2,400 MINUTES OF HIS LIFE FOR YOU!

 
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If I'm figuring correctly...let's see.....as the myth goes....he died around 3 PM on Friday.....and then he was back up and good as new around 7 am Sunday....is that about right?

So what is that.....like 40 hours.... x 60 min in an hour = 2,400 minutes?


No wonder we have worshiped him for 2,000 years......that was some sacrifice. He missed a whole weekend of golf. Seems like he could have just waved his putter in the air and done the same thing? Why put himself through all that torture?

Wait another minute, how could a guy who obviously brought himself back to life and repaired his own body really die in the first place? Much less suffer? You think if you could walk on water and raise the dead that maybe you could block out pain? Or at least dissociate from it? And is feeling pain that much of a sacrifice anyway? The Romans crucified 10,000 people just like that. So why was Jesus' suffering special?


People give their lives for others all the time - and they have the good sense to stay dead so that people can say that the other person actually sacrificed their lives for them. I mean did Jesus' mother go around wailing and saying that Jesus died? When he was alive 40 hours later? She barely had time to mourn. Don't you think she may have been way happier than sad?


If your child drowned in a lake and the paramedics pulled him or her out and they were dead for like ten minutes and you started crying - but after 2 min of CPR, your kid came back to life, would you spend the next 2,000 years lamenting the fact that they had died for a few minutes? Or would you be happy as hell that they were alive?


So why are Christians so emotionally wrapped up in Jesus' death/sacrifice? And how is it that they can say that god gave up his only son? Where is Jesus now? Is he missing? Can god not find him?

Now, to answer these questions, you have to first pretend that Jesus was real.



So let's go.



Answers please.



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The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing. lmao
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The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing. lmao
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It's true, the foolishness of the cross, WILL cause many to parish! :(

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clappa Excellent points & observations, OP!! I've never even thought of that issue (or heard anyone else mention it, before)! hf
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lmao

Always wondered, whether God's Death is the central message,
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Haha, Grandpa sacrificed more than 2160000 minutes (and his health) for the freedom and sovereignty of ol' Finland...
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Thank you op for asking reasonable questions - I'm sure
you realize that those who belief all that fairy tale religious mythology are not reasonable, sadly.
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The main thing "Christians" fail to realize is that we are all sons and daughters of God.
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It's the scapegoat thing. The promise that someone else will pay for your evil deeds. Surely you can see the attraction there, especially if you are told stories of being tortured forever vs allowing someone else to have already taken care of the problem for you.

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Dear Lord

Help us not to throw pearls at the swine. Help us to accept the things we cant control. Help us to remember your word.

Vengence is mine saith the lord, I will repay.
The blind lead the blind they both fall in the ditch.
A fool says in his heart there is no God.
There will be scoffers in the last days.
The world will hate you because they hated me firt.
And every Eye shall see him.


Whatever the reply lord. Let it pierce his mind.
In Jesus Name I pray!! AMEN!
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Dear Lord

Help us not to throw pearls at the swine. Help us to accept the things we cant control. Help us to remember your word.

Vengence is mine saith the lord, I will repay.
The blind lead the blind they both fall in the ditch.
A fool says in his heart there is no God.
There will be scoffers in the last days.
The world will hate you because they hated me firt.
And every Eye shall see him.



Whatever the reply lord. Let it pierce his mind.
In Jesus Name I pray!! AMEN!
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Nice prayer! Except you should know: Jesus NEVER said those things, in that way!!! :(

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Dear Lord

Help us not to throw pearls at the swine. Help us to accept the things we cant control. Help us to remember your word.

Vengence is mine saith the lord, I will repay.
The blind lead the blind they both fall in the ditch.
A fool says in his heart there is no God.
There will be scoffers in the last days.
The world will hate you because they hated me firt.
And every Eye shall see him.


Whatever the reply lord. Let it pierce his mind.
In Jesus Name I pray!! AMEN!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142652


Yup, ya just gotta emphasize those parts about threats from God or the thing won't fly, not the way the controllers want it to.

Who says there is no God? Not me. But that vengeful piece of crap is no god or Creator.
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If I'm figuring correctly...let's see.....as the myth goes....he died around 3 PM on Friday.....and then he was back up and good as new around 7 am Sunday....is that about right?

So what is that.....like 40 hours.... x 60 min in an hour = 2,400 minutes?


No wonder we have worshiped him for 2,000 years......that was some sacrifice. He missed a whole weekend of golf. Seems like he could have just waved his putter in the air and done the same thing? Why put himself through all that torture?

Wait another minute, how could a guy who obviously brought himself back to life and repaired his own body really die in the first place? Much less suffer? You think if you could walk on water and raise the dead that maybe you could block out pain? Or at least dissociate from it? And is feeling pain that much of a sacrifice anyway? The Romans crucified 10,000 people just like that. So why was Jesus' suffering special?


People give their lives for others all the time - and they have the good sense to stay dead so that people can say that the other person actually sacrificed their lives for them. I mean did Jesus' mother go around wailing and saying that Jesus died? When he was alive 40 hours later? She barely had time to mourn. Don't you think she may have been way happier than sad?


If your child drowned in a lake and the paramedics pulled him or her out and they were dead for like ten minutes and you started crying - but after 2 min of CPR, your kid came back to life, would you spend the next 2,000 years lamenting the fact that they had died for a few minutes? Or would you be happy as hell that they were alive?


So why are Christians so emotionally wrapped up in Jesus' death/sacrifice? And how is it that they can say that god gave up his only son? Where is Jesus now? Is he missing? Can god not find him?

Now, to answer these questions, you have to first pretend that Jesus was real.



So let's go.



Answers please.



5a
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Sigh...

I understand your frustration. But, there is much, much more to the imagery of the sacrifice of Christ than meets the eye at first...the true sacrifice is that "Christ", "Krishna", the "Enlightened One" entered into this realm of darkness to shed light. A way out. So that we may find escape.

To give this to us, the "son" of god descended into creation - to it's very depths...to the first cell and had to work it's way up...through various and incalculable lifetimes until it has ALMOST made it's way out.

The resurection of Christ has yet to come. But it comes soon. What is "Christ"? Look around the room you are in. Christ is reality. Christ is the light that shines upon the world...and Christ is that WITNESS that experiences the world through your five senses.

To accept Christ is to accept this moment as it is...right now.
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We all die = no sacrifice.
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We all die = no sacrifice.
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Well said 'D'.....simple......when you put it that way, isn't it!?! hf
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We all die = no sacrifice.

Well said 'D'.....simple......when you put it that way, isn't it!?! hf
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Our death is not spiritual. Flesh dies. Who you are inside moves on. <sigh>
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We all die = no sacrifice.

Well said 'D'.....simple......when you put it that way, isn't it!?! hf

Our death is not spiritual. Flesh dies. Who you are inside moves on. <sigh>
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Agreed
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Dear Lord

Help us not to throw pearls at the swine. Help us to accept the things we cant control. Help us to remember your word.

Vengence is mine saith the lord, I will repay.
The blind lead the blind they both fall in the ditch.
A fool says in his heart there is no God.
There will be scoffers in the last days.
The world will hate you because they hated me firt.
And every Eye shall see him.


Whatever the reply lord. Let it pierce his mind.
In Jesus Name I pray!! AMEN!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142652

bsflag
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Our death is not spiritual.
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Correct, it IS a VERY 'physical' thing.......and so was the death of Jesus! (physical, not spiritual)

Flesh dies. Who you are inside moves on. <sigh>
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Once again Correct! But just because I came back from a death experience, doesn't make me a Jesus either!!!

peace
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We all die = no sacrifice.

Well said 'D'.....simple......when you put it that way, isn't it!?! hf
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Heya bro.

cheers
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Our death is not spiritual. Flesh dies. Who you are inside moves on. <sigh>
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Agree too.
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Dear Lord

Help us not to throw pearls at the swine. Help us to accept the things we cant control. Help us to remember your word.

Vengence is mine saith the lord, I will repay.
The blind lead the blind they both fall in the ditch.
A fool says in his heart there is no God.
There will be scoffers in the last days.
The world will hate you because they hated me firt.
And every Eye shall see him.


Whatever the reply lord. Let it pierce his mind.
In Jesus Name I pray!! AMEN!
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Amen! :)
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We all die = no sacrifice.
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Yes, that's pretty much it. And of course, death is but an illusion.
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If I'm figuring correctly...let's see.....as the myth goes....he died around 3 PM on Friday.....and then he was back up and good as new around 7 am Sunday....is that about right?

So what is that.....like 40 hours.... x 60 min in an hour = 2,400 minutes?


No wonder we have worshiped him for 2,000 years......that was some sacrifice. He missed a whole weekend of golf. Seems like he could have just waved his putter in the air and done the same thing? Why put himself through all that torture?

Wait another minute, how could a guy who obviously brought himself back to life and repaired his own body really die in the first place? Much less suffer? You think if you could walk on water and raise the dead that maybe you could block out pain? Or at least dissociate from it? And is feeling pain that much of a sacrifice anyway? The Romans crucified 10,000 people just like that. So why was Jesus' suffering special?


People give their lives for others all the time - and they have the good sense to stay dead so that people can say that the other person actually sacrificed their lives for them. I mean did Jesus' mother go around wailing and saying that Jesus died? When he was alive 40 hours later? She barely had time to mourn. Don't you think she may have been way happier than sad?


If your child drowned in a lake and the paramedics pulled him or her out and they were dead for like ten minutes and you started crying - but after 2 min of CPR, your kid came back to life, would you spend the next 2,000 years lamenting the fact that they had died for a few minutes? Or would you be happy as hell that they were alive?


So why are Christians so emotionally wrapped up in Jesus' death/sacrifice? And how is it that they can say that god gave up his only son? Where is Jesus now? Is he missing? Can god not find him?

Now, to answer these questions, you have to first pretend that Jesus was real.



So let's go.



Answers please.



5a


Sigh...

I understand your frustration. But, there is much, much more to the imagery of the sacrifice of Christ than meets the eye at first...the true sacrifice is that "Christ", "Krishna", the "Enlightened One" entered into this realm of darkness to shed light. A way out. So that we may find escape.

To give this to us, the "son" of god descended into creation - to it's very depths...to the first cell and had to work it's way up...through various and incalculable lifetimes until it has ALMOST made it's way out.

The resurection of Christ has yet to come. But it comes soon. What is "Christ"? Look around the room you are in. Christ is reality. Christ is the light that shines upon the world...and Christ is that WITNESS that experiences the world through your five senses.

To accept Christ is to accept this moment as it is...right now.
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I'm so glad you understand my frustration? You mean when I putt? Love when the "loftier rhetoric" clones comes knocking and condescend upon the whole of us as if they possess THE true perspective that covers all of us in their finely woven blanket of poetic hyperbole.
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Dear Lord

Help us not to throw pearls at the swine. Help us to accept the things we cant control. Help us to remember your word.

Vengence is mine saith the lord, I will repay.
The blind lead the blind they both fall in the ditch.
A fool says in his heart there is no God.
There will be scoffers in the last days.
The world will hate you because they hated me firt.
And every Eye shall see him.


Whatever the reply lord. Let it pierce his mind.
In Jesus Name I pray!! AMEN!
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So happy you little clones possess your all purpose, mindless retort that makes you feel superior without actually addressing what is offered. As if we read it for the ten millionth time and shake our heads and say "you know, they have a point for once".
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lmao

Always wondered, whether God's Death is the central message,
yes.





Haha, Grandpa sacrificed more than 2160000 minutes (and his health) for the freedom and sovereignty of ol' Finland...
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Right. And how about the Americans who shed their blood on Normandy beach? For people who were complete strangers? Was that any less noble? or maybe even more noble?

And if we were given the chance that if but one of us agreed to be tortured, that none of us would ever reap the negative results of our actions - for all men, for all time - don't you think people would line up to perform such a sacrifice?

And as far as Jesus goes, how can "god" suffer or "die" or give up anything at all? Much less, being "god". Does a master being associate himself or herself with their body? Or do they understand that they are eternal and never die?

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According to the Bible Jesus was God. This means he could not die. He knew the future and was aware that he could not die. How is it even a sacrifice for the Supreme God of the universe to have his physical body killed? The whole thing seems insane.
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2400 x 12 x 5 = 144000 (sc)
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And if Jesus was supposedly sent here to spread love, peace, harmony - and to show us that it mattered how we treat one another - why would he turn around and say - fuck it - do whatever you want - just drink my blood and all your iniquities are automatically washed away? Isn't that like the reverse of what he was preaching?

I mean, if he had actually existed?
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2400 x 12 x 5 = 144000 (sc)
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Thank you. I thought about doing that.
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i know a good shrink who can help him with that martyr complex.





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