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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

 
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

Is this quote still valid?
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Re: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

Is this quote still valid?
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No. At least, I'd hope we'd strive to take out our tyrants legally and peacefully.
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Re: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

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No. At least, I'd hope we'd strive to take out our tyrants legally and peacefully.
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Does the system to do this still work?
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Re: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

Is this quote still valid?
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More valid than ever. Has human nature changed?
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Re: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
I don't even fucking know anymore.
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Re: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Who are the patriots and the tyrants? Maybe things aren't as black and white as before. Nowadays everything seems murky...
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Re: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

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That's just the type of hate speech the democrats & liberals want to outlaw.
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Re: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

Is this quote still valid?
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damn terrorist Jefferson. those words now will get you locked up in prison or a mental ward. Funny how things change and freedom becomes tyranny.
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants...."
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and nine-year old girls!


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Re: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Yes.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

Is this quote still valid?

damn terrorist Jefferson. those words now will get you locked up in prison or a mental ward. Funny how things change and freedom becomes tyranny.
 Quoting: last days



The Declaration of Independence flat out stated when a government no longer had the best interests of it's people in mind it was the -right- and -duty- of the citizen to revolt.

Just imagine it... a bunch of fat people chugging down the street in an attempt to revolt, stopping at the first mcdonald's to catch their breath and a few $1 burgers.
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Re: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
How do you measure tyranny within a "democracy"?

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." - Dwight D. Eisenhower


The very word secrecy is repugnant, in a free and open society, and we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, secret oaths, and to secret proceedings. But we are opposed around the world, by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy, that relies primarily on cover means for expanding itís fear of influence, on infiltration, instead of invasion. On subversion, instead of elections. On intimidation, instead of free choice.
It is a system that has conscripted, vast human and material resources, into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine, that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.
Itís preparations are concealed, not published. Itís mistakes are buried, not headlined. Itís dissenters silenced, not praised.
No expenditure is questioned. No secret is revealed.
That is why the Athenian law maker solo declared it a crime to any citizen to shrink from controversy.
I am asking for your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. Confident with your help man will be what he was born to be, free and independent.
- JFK
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Re: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
an old way...that always works


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