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A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype

 
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A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
[link to www.ausairpower.net]

Some scary shit!

`Any notion that an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be capable of competing against this Chengdu design in air combat, let alone penetrate airspace defended by this fighter, would be simply absurd. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet are both aerodynamically and kinematically quite inferior to the as presented J-XX/J-20 design, and even the shape based VLO capability in the J-XX/J-20, as presented, will effectively neutralise any sensor advantage either type might possess against earlier Russian and Chinese fighter designs.'

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For what will it profit men that a more prudent distribution and use of riches make it possible for them to gain even the whole world, if thereby they suffer the loss of their own souls?
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01/13/2011 11:15 PM
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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
Unless the Skunk Works designed it for them I don't see how they leapfrog from never having the leading first line fighter design to having the leading 6th generation fighter design.

What they could possibly do is use what Stalin said in that quantity has a quality all its own.

After all our air superiority fighter fleet is in the order of what a Finland should have.
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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
[link to www.ausairpower.net]

Some scary shit!

`Any notion that an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be capable of competing against this Chengdu design in air combat, let alone penetrate airspace defended by this fighter, would be simply absurd. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet are both aerodynamically and kinematically quite inferior to the as presented J-XX/J-20 design, and even the shape based VLO capability in the J-XX/J-20, as presented, will effectively neutralise any sensor advantage either type might possess against earlier Russian and Chinese fighter designs.'

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The invisible Chinese rickshaw is ginormous. I doubt it's stealth capabilities.

Stealth Doom fails
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01/13/2011 11:18 PM
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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
[link to www.ausairpower.net]

Some scary shit!

`Any notion that an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be capable of competing against this Chengdu design in air combat, let alone penetrate airspace defended by this fighter, would be simply absurd. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet are both aerodynamically and kinematically quite inferior to the as presented J-XX/J-20 design, and even the shape based VLO capability in the J-XX/J-20, as presented, will effectively neutralise any sensor advantage either type might possess against earlier Russian and Chinese fighter designs.'

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ausairpower lol yeah right.
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01/13/2011 11:23 PM
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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
And China can make 10 times more of these than the USA can make F-22 and F-35
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01/13/2011 11:24 PM
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Ya know, I have said for years that I have a huge cock...doesn't mean it's true. We should be willing to sacrifice an F18 to find out I would think. Hell we lose a lot of them every year to training accidents.
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01/13/2011 11:27 PM
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Too, a neighbor goes over there to oversee the China boys manufacturing endeavors and says they be dumb as rocks...just sayin'
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01/13/2011 11:51 PM
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Unless the Skunk Works designed it for them I don't see how they leapfrog from never having the leading first line fighter design to having the leading 6th generation fighter design.

I agree, if it is for real then the tech was stolen. It does not appear to be a 5th gen. airplane. The jet exhaust does not give all-aspect stealth. Canards in general limit stealth characteristics. I can't tell if there is thrust vectoring or not from the pics. I doubt the Chinese have developed the radar and sensor suite of the F22. Unless that was the deal for buying all that US debt.
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01/13/2011 11:55 PM
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Interesting because the j-20 has yet to fly!
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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
[link to www.ausairpower.net]

Some scary shit!

`Any notion that an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be capable of competing against this Chengdu design in air combat, let alone penetrate airspace defended by this fighter, would be simply absurd. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet are both aerodynamically and kinematically quite inferior to the as presented J-XX/J-20 design, and even the shape based VLO capability in the J-XX/J-20, as presented, will effectively neutralise any sensor advantage either type might possess against earlier Russian and Chinese fighter designs.'

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Another stolen set of plans from the USA.
The Chinese RIP EVERYTHING OFF...and invent nothing.




“WIKI” STYLE ESPIONAGE LANDS $300 BILLION DOLLAR SUPER-PLANE PLANS

"On April 21, 2009, the Department of Defense announced the theft of 1.5 terabytes of data on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the platform meant give the United States and her allies air superiority for the next 40 years. In a flash, all that was gone, $300 billion dollars of funding down the drain, every system, defense, offense, stealth, everything needed to build one or shoot it down, all gone. Day one, China was accused..."

[link to redactednews.blogspot.com]

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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
Yeah....that J-20 will sneak up on ya like a MSG headache.....
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01/14/2011 12:07 AM
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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
It's an F-22... so what!
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01/16/2011 09:13 AM
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This new fighter is like a stealthed supercruising MiG 31, with super maneuvorability. It's interesting that at the moment the T50 and J20 both are concerned with forward stealth, unlike the the f22 that is a much more offensive platform.
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01/16/2011 09:16 AM
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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
It seems you guys have forgotten the downed f 22 in Alaska 2 months ago.


Where do you think did it go?

Possibly this was the last part they needed .
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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
[link to www.ausairpower.net]

Some scary shit!

`Any notion that an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter or F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be capable of competing against this Chengdu design in air combat, let alone penetrate airspace defended by this fighter, would be simply absurd. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet are both aerodynamically and kinematically quite inferior to the as presented J-XX/J-20 design, and even the shape based VLO capability in the J-XX/J-20, as presented, will effectively neutralise any sensor advantage either type might possess against earlier Russian and Chinese fighter designs.'

damned damned



Another stolen set of plans from the USA.
The Chinese RIP EVERYTHING OFF...and invent nothing.




“WIKI” STYLE ESPIONAGE LANDS $300 BILLION DOLLAR SUPER-PLANE PLANS

"On April 21, 2009, the Department of Defense announced the theft of 1.5 terabytes of data on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the platform meant give the United States and her allies air superiority for the next 40 years. In a flash, all that was gone, $300 billion dollars of funding down the drain, every system, defense, offense, stealth, everything needed to build one or shoot it down, all gone. Day one, China was accused..."

[link to redactednews.blogspot.com]

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 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Stolen??? Frak! Bill Clinton GAVE it to them, along with missile and nuclear tech and the Gods themselves only know what else.

How do you think he financed his campaigns?

Bill Clinton: The best president Chinese money could buy!
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01/16/2011 09:23 AM
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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
The stealthe shaping of the f22 is modelled after some russian guy's theory...
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...therefore, it shouldn't be any surprise that the solutions would be similar.
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Another stolen set of plans from the USA.
The Chinese RIP EVERYTHING OFF...and invent nothing.


“WIKI” STYLE ESPIONAGE LANDS $300 BILLION DOLLAR SUPER-PLANE PLANS

"On April 21, 2009, the Department of Defense announced the theft of 1.5 terabytes of data on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the platform meant give the United States and her allies air superiority for the next 40 years. In a flash, all that was gone, $300 billion dollars of funding down the drain, every system, defense, offense, stealth, everything needed to build one or shoot it down, all gone. Day one, China was accused..."

[link to redactednews.blogspot.com]

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 Quoting: Burt Gummer


It's all part of the game, dude.

Countries have been stealing each others secret war toy plans since the invention of the rock, probably.
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01/16/2011 09:43 AM
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soooo suddenly they make giant leap from POS planes they were flying before to this turkey? laugh
Another quality product coming from Peoples Republic ? 1rof1

pitiful

It's a flying tin can , F-18 would blow it out of the [email protected] dang sky, and I dont wanna think how f22 or f35 would make it their [email protected]

It's a TROJAN HORSE people , just a PR stunt of the chinese commie leadership, they playing games , there is purpose of this plane and its not to fly

They wrote Art of War , they are trying to play us!!

rant
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Re: A good Technical Report of the Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter Prototype
It's all part of the game, dude.

Countries have been stealing each others secret war toy plans since the invention of the rock, probably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1231979


Very true.

The j20 is still in development, which means that what we are seeing is what we are allowed to see. The offshoot of this is that there is a real need for the f22, in the sense that it's the only fighter that could go head to head with it.

....or am I being suckered into thinking that the j20 is more than what it is... in which case, is this "release" meant to stimulate more defense spending.





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