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1/13/2011 - 9/11 PRESS RELEASE: World Trade Center Occupancy FOIA * 1972-2001

 
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a document about leasing information isnt bullshit...
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It's bullshit when you have people who don't know that REAL middle class (average Joe) people lived and worked in those towers...

All I can share with you guys is the fact that my dad worked in the South Tower and he knew 2 people who died. Oh yeah, and now I remember the Dean of my College also lost his wife in the attack...

Real people died in real companies that leased floors in those towers. It was an inside job, this document is likely erroneous.
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Is this pinned?

If true,this is shocking; to put it mildly.
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Is this pinned?

If true,this is shocking; to put it mildly.
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You're from Sweden.

I know for a fact that AON and Morgan Stanley occupied the South Tower on 9/11/01... I LIVE and WORK in the New York City area.... Trust me when I say that these documents are likely erroneous..

You can do your own research by hopping a flight to the area and visiting graveyards to see the graves of people who died on that day.
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can you please shut the fuck up AC.. you gave your point and its been said stop commenting on ever damn thing. seems like you might be getting paid to sit up late at night and post dis-info on forums..
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Is this pinned?

If true,this is shocking; to put it mildly.


You're from Sweden.

I know for a fact that AON and Morgan Stanley occupied the South Tower on 9/11/01... I LIVE and WORK in the New York City area.... Trust me when I say that these documents are likely erroneous..

You can do your own research by hopping a flight to the area and visiting graveyards to see the graves of people who died on that day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1120824

well I'm bored..

He's from Sweden.
Did your "dad" ever personally show you his office?
You live and work in NYC area.
Trust You ? (insert rodney dangerfield gif)
Looking at engraved stones is not research, even if you took a long plane ride to get there..now digging up said gravesites. that would be research.
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I guess it might be hard for some to wrap their mind around the bold idea that the towers were built mainly for their end purpose.

Most people have a hard time with a plot that spans more than a few minutes, and it was impossible to see the scope of a plot that encompassed decades.

The towers cost millions to build. Their payoff was in the billions in government funds to the corporations alone, trillions in war profiteering aside.



Even the Port Authority of NY/NJ tells us they were nearly empty for over 25 years, then at the last minute a bunch of CIA front companies "move in".

This answers all of the questions about access to the buildings (no problemo)for demolition, and affirms that the reason for a lack of debris is because it was indeed never there!

Bravo Josey
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073930



Not difficult at all to believe. When GW Bush told me about the towers in 1972, and told me that demolition wiring was built in, I asked why they would build these expensive eyesores of buildings only with the intent to bring them down later. He responded that all high rises in NYC were built like that. It seemed odd to me at the time.

He did say that they ( the Bush's ) were friends with the planners, financiers, and builders of the WTC complex.
Equally odd was Rove telling me days before that Bush/PNAC was planning a New Pearl Harbor event.

We had most of this info here several years ago when investigating 911. I'm glad to see it back, as computer crashes wiped most links out.

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Interesting, not sure what to make of it yet. Please find a bit more evidence that proves the foia is genuine and this will be compelling.
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wasn't there a A1 thread on GLP chuckle

AON
Gaelic for "oneness"

AON
"is a provider of risk management services, insurance and reinsurance brokerage, human capital and management consulting, and specialty insurance underwriting"

hmmm. hearty 9/11 ingrediants.. risk, specialty insurance, human capital

The AON Center in Chicago
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
AON center
"When it was completed in 1973 it was the tallest building in Chicago and the fourth-tallest in the world, earning it the nickname "Big Stan"."

"Big Stan" lol... they forgot an "a"

"The building employs a tubular steel-framed structural system with V-shaped perimeter columns to resist earthquakes, reduce sway, minimize column bending, and maximize column-free space. This construction method was also used for the World Trade Center towers in New York City"

well how about that then..ok.. this is pretty sad tho..

"In 1974, just a year after completion, one of the marble slabs detached from the façade and penetrated the roof of the nearby Prudential Center Annex. Further inspection found numerous cracks and bowing in the marble cladding of the building. To alleviate the problem, stainless steel straps were added to hold the marble in place.

didn't they have any duct tape..come on now

"[4] Later, from 1990 to 1992, the entire building was refaced with Mount Airy white granite at an estimated cost of over $80 million.[2][5] (Amoco was reticent to divulge the actual amount, but it was well over half the original price of the building, without adjustment for inflation.) Two-thirds of the discarded marble was crushed and used as landscaping decoration at Amoco's refinery in Whiting, Indiana, one-sixth was donated to Governor's State University, in University Park, Illinois, and one-sixth donated to Regalo, a division of Lashcon Inc. Under a grant from the Illinois Department of Rehabilitative Services, Regalo's 25 handicapped workers carved the discarded marble into a variety of specialty items such as corporate gifts and mementos including desk clocks and pen holders.[2][6] The building's facade now somewhat resembles that of the former World Trade Center due to the upward flow of the columns."

2/3 eh ?... quite the expensive landscaping for a refinery.lolz...you do the math...yes we can !

and on the "corporate gifts"... yeah we made a bad decision, here is a memento made of that bad decision..it must be symbolic as the building and company itself..
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1209340



At about 6:40 when he responds that 911 is a 30 year conspiracy, that really backs up what I was told in 1972.
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Not difficult at all to believe. When GW Bush told me about the towers in 1972, and told me that demolition wiring was built in, I asked why they would build these expensive eyesores of buildings only with the intent to bring them down later. He responded that all high rises in NYC were built like that. It seemed odd to me at the time.

He did say that they ( the Bush's ) were friends with the planners, financiers, and builders of the WTC complex.
Equally odd was Rove telling me days before that Bush/PNAC was planning a New Pearl Harbor event.

We had most of this info here several years ago when investigating 911. I'm glad to see it back, as computer crashes wiped most links out.
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored

you ?
you hang with Bush and Rove ?
or are you quoting an old GLP'er ?
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The main contributors of this thread are actually one person.


Don't be fooled by this nonsense. Do not be fooled by user IDs or silly country flags. All can be faked.

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The main contributors of this thread are actually one person.


Don't be fooled by this nonsense. Do not be fooled by user IDs or silly country flags. All can be faked.
 Quoting: Pffftards

are you responding in the correct thread ?
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Yes. You can clearly see it in the writing.
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woops, double post.

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This is some really crazy shit. and now this staged AZ shooting... but this 9/11 shyte is crazy. i thought i had a grip on what happened. but to realize it may have ALL been a farce? the numbers of dead were probably much lower than was reported, and probably ALL collateral damage victims.
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Not difficult at all to believe. When GW Bush told me about the towers in 1972, and told me that demolition wiring was built in, I asked why they would build these expensive eyesores of buildings only with the intent to bring them down later. He responded that all high rises in NYC were built like that. It seemed odd to me at the time.

He did say that they ( the Bush's ) were friends with the planners, financiers, and builders of the WTC complex.
Equally odd was Rove telling me days before that Bush/PNAC was planning a New Pearl Harbor event.

We had most of this info here several years ago when investigating 911. I'm glad to see it back, as computer crashes wiped most links out.

you ?
you hang with Bush and Rove ?
or are you quoting an old GLP'er ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749717



I knew them back in the early 70's. Actually met Jeb and george in DC in the late 60's.
I did some work for the TRC when Bush Sr., was running it.
I knew Jr. socially mostly. But I wouldn't consider it hanging with them. Rove mostly alarmed me. Interesting to talk with though.
I haven't seen them in decades.

Not quoting anyone. And, I have been a GLP'r for years.
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This is some really crazy shit. and now this staged AZ shooting... but this 9/11 shyte is crazy. i thought i had a grip on what happened. but to realize it may have ALL been a farce? the numbers of dead were probably much lower than was reported, and probably ALL collateral damage victims.
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samefag
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I knew them back in the early 70's. Actually met Jeb and george in DC in the late 60's.
I did some work for the TRC when Bush Sr., was running it.
I knew Jr. socially mostly. But I wouldn't consider it hanging with them. Rove mostly alarmed me. Interesting to talk with though.
I haven't seen them in decades.

Not quoting anyone. And, I have been a GLP'r for years.
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored


thanks TX..just curious about your post. hf

So... Holy Shit ! Bush Jr. told you the WTC was prewired? 30 year false flags are just too hardcore

you should you tube yourself with a polygraph expert.

btw..uh 'Turdblossom' probably gives alot of folks that impression chuckle
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This is some really crazy shit. and now this staged AZ shooting... but this 9/11 shyte is crazy. i thought i had a grip on what happened. but to realize it may have ALL been a farce? the numbers of dead were probably much lower than was reported, and probably ALL collateral damage victims.



samefag
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Pfft...are you talking about the OP ?

( you are quite the derailer )

so what you are saying is don't believe the OP because you think OP is posting as a different AC..?...huh...don't kill the messenger..

I replied to this thread a couple times from work and my girlfriend's house...and that somehow negates the content of the thread...:dangerfield:
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I did not find Deloitte & Touche in your FOIA. Your list is incomplete!


Firm Is Leaving the Trade Center
By CLAUDIA H. DEUTSCH
Published: June 19, 1993

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Deloitte & Touche, an accounting firm that is one of the World Trade Center's largest tenants, has decided not to move back to the complex.

The firm, the only tenant that never returned to the center after the explosion on Feb. 26, had been considering relocating even before the bombing and said it was not leaving out of dissatisfaction with the Port Authority's response to the disaster.

With Deloitte's decision, the Port Authority needs to find tenants for about seven and a half floors of prime space in Tower One, 300,000 square feet that had been used by 1,200 Deloitte employees.

After the blast, the firm moved most of its employees to 1633 Broadway, near 50th Street, where they remain doubled and tripled up in space while Deloitte negotiates with other owners for 400,000 square feet of space for its entire operation.

"Our decision was accelerated by the bombing," said J. Michael Cook, Deloitte's chairman. "We might otherwise have stayed until the end of the lease. But the idea of moving back, only to move out again, did not make sense."

Mr. Cook said the firm would stay in Manhattan.

The center is 92 percent occupied and has generally been successful in recovering from the explosion. All of the tenants, except for Deloitte, have returned. Many have renewed leases and one tenant, BankAmerica, has signed on for eight floors.

Deloitte, whose lease did not expire until March 1995, has given the Port Authority what Charles Maikish, the World Trade Center's director, called a "substantial cash payment" to get out of its lease now.

The Deloitte move did not take the center by surprise. By early 1992 Deloitte had more than 600,000 square feet in various parts of the city, far more than it needed.

Deloitte figured that by adding another floor or so to its space in the center it could consolidate its operations. But it could not work out a deal.

The problem was that Deloitte's average rent in the center was between $20 and $30 a square foot per year. Mr. Maikish, who says the real-estate market is recovering, wanted to hold out for up to $35 a square foot.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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You guys need to cross reference your list. FOIA doesn't mean shit if the information you receive is not complete!
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You guys need to cross reference your list. FOIA doesn't mean shit if the information you receive is not complete!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1231937

you are ever so helpful..

now go ahead and post your superlative cross reference link.

hf and ty
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Is this pinned?

If true,this is shocking; to put it mildly.


You're from Sweden.

I know for a fact that AON and Morgan Stanley occupied the South Tower on 9/11/01... I LIVE and WORK in the New York City area.... Trust me when I say that these documents are likely erroneous..

You can do your own research by hopping a flight to the area and visiting graveyards to see the graves of people who died on that day.

well I'm bored..

He's from Sweden.
Did your "dad" ever personally show you his office?
You live and work in NYC area.
Trust You ? (insert rodney dangerfield gif)
Looking at engraved stones is not research, even if you took a long plane ride to get there..now digging up said gravesites. that would be research.
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gonzo2
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come on shills and debunkers..

bump
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what year was this picture taken ?

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You guys need to cross reference your list. FOIA doesn't mean shit if the information you receive is not complete!

you are ever so helpful..

now go ahead and post your superlative cross reference link.

hf and ty
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749717



Google is your friend lazy ass. These letsroll clowns assume the list is complete but Deloite & Touche was one of the largest tenants occupying 7 floors BEFORE 1993 and they were not listed. What other companies are not listed?
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I did not find Deloitte & Touche in your FOIA. Your list is incomplete!


Firm Is Leaving the Trade Center
By CLAUDIA H. DEUTSCH
Published: June 19, 1993

* Sign In to E-Mail
* Print

Deloitte & Touche, an accounting firm that is one of the World Trade Center's largest tenants, has decided not to move back to the complex.

The firm, the only tenant that never returned to the center after the explosion on Feb. 26, had been considering relocating even before the bombing and said it was not leaving out of dissatisfaction with the Port Authority's response to the disaster.

With Deloitte's decision, the Port Authority needs to find tenants for about seven and a half floors of prime space in Tower One, 300,000 square feet that had been used by 1,200 Deloitte employees.

After the blast, the firm moved most of its employees to 1633 Broadway, near 50th Street, where they remain doubled and tripled up in space while Deloitte negotiates with other owners for 400,000 square feet of space for its entire operation.

"Our decision was accelerated by the bombing," said J. Michael Cook, Deloitte's chairman. "We might otherwise have stayed until the end of the lease. But the idea of moving back, only to move out again, did not make sense."

Mr. Cook said the firm would stay in Manhattan.

The center is 92 percent occupied and has generally been successful in recovering from the explosion. All of the tenants, except for Deloitte, have returned. Many have renewed leases and one tenant, BankAmerica, has signed on for eight floors.

Deloitte, whose lease did not expire until March 1995, has given the Port Authority what Charles Maikish, the World Trade Center's director, called a "substantial cash payment" to get out of its lease now.

The Deloitte move did not take the center by surprise. By early 1992 Deloitte had more than 600,000 square feet in various parts of the city, far more than it needed.

Deloitte figured that by adding another floor or so to its space in the center it could consolidate its operations. But it could not work out a deal.

The problem was that Deloitte's average rent in the center was between $20 and $30 a square foot per year. Mr. Maikish, who says the real-estate market is recovering, wanted to hold out for up to $35 a square foot.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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* PROOF * THAT THE LETSROLL FOIA REQUEST IS NOT COMPLETE.


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I guess it might be hard for some to wrap their mind around the bold idea that the towers were built mainly for their end purpose.

Most people have a hard time with a plot that spans more than a few minutes, and it was impossible to see the scope of a plot that encompassed decades.

The towers cost millions to build. Their payoff was in the billions in government funds to the corporations alone, trillions in war profiteering aside.



Even the Port Authority of NY/NJ tells us they were nearly empty for over 25 years, then at the last minute a bunch of CIA front companies "move in".

This answers all of the questions about access to the buildings (no problemo)for demolition, and affirms that the reason for a lack of debris is because it was indeed never there!

Bravo Josey
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073930

I concur! I used to have a print out of all the companies that supposedly occupied the towers.Amonga lots of weird and inconsistent stuff, was the number of companies that moved out just before 9/11.
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what year was this picture taken ?

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One of my FAVOURITE images of that mosquito-net construction that would SWALLOW any number of planes.

WTC was the cheese that was mostly holes.

Anyway, from the crane atop it, I'd suggest it was just at the completion of original construction, whatever date that was.

:)





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