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# 1/13/2011 - 9/11 PRESS RELEASE: World Trade Center Occupancy FOIA * 1972-2001

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for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 50 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232801

I just realized how silly that statement was, it should have read;

for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 500 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers
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for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 50 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers

I just realized how silly that statement was, it should have read;

for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 500 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232801

Do you understand and ton is 2000lb??

500 x 4.

Listen, good luck with the rest of that shit.
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01/16/2011 10:49 PM
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Re: 1/13/2011 - 9/11 PRESS RELEASE: World Trade Center Occupancy FOIA * 1972-2001
for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 50 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers

I just realized how silly that statement was, it should have read;

for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 500 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers

Do you understand and ton is 2000lb??

500 x 4.

Listen, good luck with the rest of that shit.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232790

LOL

I knew I would catch someone

thats the best you got? then you must agree with my other statements, thanks

it's OK really, I have researched this for years, no has convinced me that some goons with rags on their heads could not hijack planes and fly them into towers, I know most Americans refuse to admit we were that vulnerable and stupid, but the fact is it was a clever plan, as a matter of fact we are still vulnerable in ways I decline to go in to, I care not to give any loonies any ideas
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01/16/2011 10:56 PM
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LOL

I knew I would catch someone

thats the best you got? then you must agree with my other statements, thanks

it's OK really, I have researched this for years, no has convinced me that some goons with rags on their heads could not hijack planes and fly them into towers, I know most Americans refuse to admit we were that vulnerable and stupid, but the fact is it was a clever plan, as a matter of fact we are still vulnerable in ways I decline to go in to, I care not to give any loonies any ideas
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232801

Did you just come on duty Mr/Mrs "911 was not Fraud" Shill?
Perhaps you care to explain the OP??

This thread is about lying in government and Fake stuff.
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01/16/2011 11:26 PM
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I went and read the Lets Roll thread and have not read this thread. I can't see the WTC having been built to demolish decades later. I could see it having been a white elephant or a big fat bust of a piece of real estate. That alone would be enough reason to want to get rid of it - because it was not profitable.

One of the things that crossed my mind while reading about was the possibility of big construction projects as a means to launder money.
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01/16/2011 11:30 PM
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for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 50 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers

I just realized how silly that statement was, it should have read;

for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 500 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers

Do you understand and ton is 2000lb??

500 x 4.

Listen, good luck with the rest of that shit.

LOL

I knew I would catch someone

thats the best you got? then you must agree with my other statements, thanks

it's OK really, I have researched this for years, no has convinced me that some goons with rags on their heads could not hijack planes and fly them into towers, I know most Americans refuse to admit we were that vulnerable and stupid, but the fact is it was a clever plan, as a matter of fact we are still vulnerable in ways I decline to go in to, I care not to give any loonies any ideas
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232801

Pilots for 9/11 Truth (military and commercial pilots) have determined that the maneuvers and flying skills to aim those planes and hit the towers were next to impossible for even the best pilots out there - never mind some Arab that couldn't even land a Cessna.
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01/16/2011 11:31 PM
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LOL

I knew I would catch someone

thats the best you got? then you must agree with my other statements, thanks

it's OK really, I have researched this for years, no has convinced me that some goons with rags on their heads could not hijack planes and fly them into towers, I know most Americans refuse to admit we were that vulnerable and stupid, but the fact is it was a clever plan, as a matter of fact we are still vulnerable in ways I decline to go in to, I care not to give any loonies any ideas
Did you just come on duty Mr/Mrs "911 was not Fraud" Shill?
Perhaps you care to explain the OP??

This thread is about lying in government and Fake stuff.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232790

yup, fake stuff like the tenant list that doesn't mention known tenants

I want the truth as much as anyone, but no "truther" with faulty physics and fake evidence has convinced me of anything, I don't have to call names and alter quotes to make my points either, because unlike you, I am free from the slavery of mis-conceptions and pre-concieved notions

no one has proved the situation either way to me, so go about your business truther-bot, your business of searching for an answer you already think you know, not the truth
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01/16/2011 11:35 PM
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Pilots for 9/11 Truth (military and commercial pilots) have determined that the maneuvers and flying skills to aim those planes and hit the towers were next to impossible for even the best pilots out there - never mind some Arab that couldn't even land a Cessna.
Quoting: susano

why did they say "next to impossible", I mean why not just say "impossible", I mean really, isn't "next to impossible" just a fancy way of saying "possible"?

and if those manuverds are considered so impossible, it only stands to reason that for safety reasons they would never be attempted, so the entire "next to impossible" theory is just hogwash
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01/17/2011 12:14 AM
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The towers were obviously taken down with demo.

DUH!!!

No one with a brian denies this. :)

But thanks for being horribly rude to me, have a good night and good luck with the website, I'm not being sarcastic, whatever it takes to wake up the sheeple!

It may suprise you to learn the the corporation my father worked for had offices in WTC Two since the mid eighties, also that the physics of theses towers falling from burning jet fuel (which according to the top FAA crash analyst on Venturas "conspiracy theories" burn @2000 degrees) is entirely sound

for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 50 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers

the link is down, apparently linking from GLP has killed that site!

you might even be suprised to learn that building seven was a cantliever design built over a power station and had a 6,000 gallon diesel storage tank on floor one to power the FEMA generators

it may even suprise you to learn that "freefall" is about one third of the time it actually took the towers to fall, about the delay one might expect from the resistance the building offered after it's structural integrity was compromised

or I could be wrong, you may not be interested in facts and physics, they are certainly not convenient when WOOOOOO
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232801

FAIL
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01/17/2011 12:37 AM
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FAIL
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I am startled and amazed at such a profound response! So compelling, so definitive precise and logical, WOW!

Is that how you got where you are today, by shoutong fail in capital letters?

Kinda reminds me of those folks on streetcorners shouting at traffic, you know, the ones you can tell need to bath from twenty feet away!
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01/17/2011 01:30 AM
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FAIL

I am startled and amazed at such a profound response! So compelling, so definitive precise and logical, WOW!

Is that how you got where you are today, by shoutong fail in capital letters?

Kinda reminds me of those folks on streetcorners shouting at traffic, you know, the ones you can tell need to bath from twenty feet away!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232801

Yeah and Santa Claus lives on the North Pole and delivers toys to all the boys and girls. He gets in the house by going down the chiney too:)

Dude you are full of shit with that I knew someone who had an office at the WTC crap along with the jet fuel lameness.

You are a sucker my friend
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01/17/2011 01:55 AM
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Re: 1/13/2011 - 9/11 PRESS RELEASE: World Trade Center Occupancy FOIA * 1972-2001
for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 50 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers

I just realized how silly that statement was, it should have read;

for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 500 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers

Do you understand and ton is 2000lb??

500 x 4.

Listen, good luck with the rest of that shit.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232790

OMG im laughing too hard for , with and @ you ..ty
this has got to be the worst shill attempt ever !
Im just laughed so hard ...!! I bet you Facebook and Twit way too much... saving this for posterity..
classic mathtard self corrections,
making some "drop a 40 pound block on your toe bullshit" comments..."think of your toe, now think of the WTC", Holy SHIT U R fucking crazy retarded!!!!
now think of all that "stored up kinetic energy" in 98 floors holding up 10 ,
Anonymous Coward
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01/17/2011 02:06 AM
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Dude you are full of shit with that I knew someone who had an office at the WTC crap along with the jet fuel lameness.

You are a sucker my friend
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155369

oh really? you are saying that I don't know someone who had an office in the WTC?

okay, fine

there is really no reason to discuss this with you
Anonymous Coward
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01/17/2011 02:09 AM
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And who thinks this is surprising in any way?
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01/17/2011 02:12 AM
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LOL

I knew I would catch someone

thats the best you got? then you must agree with my other statements, thanks

it's OK really, I have researched this for years, no has convinced me that some goons with rags on their heads could not hijack planes and fly them into towers, I know most Americans refuse to admit we were that vulnerable and stupid, but the fact is it was a clever plan, as a matter of fact we are still vulnerable in ways I decline to go in to, I care not to give any loonies any ideas

Did you just come on duty Mr/Mrs "911 was not Fraud" Shill?
Perhaps you care to explain the OP??

This thread is about lying in government and Fake stuff.

yup, fake stuff like the tenant list that doesn't mention known tenants

I want the truth as much as anyone, but no "truther" with faulty physics and fake evidence has convinced me of anything, I don't have to call names and alter quotes to make my points either, because unlike you, I am free from the slavery of mis-conceptions and pre-concieved notions

no one has proved the situation either way to me, so go about your business truther-bot, your business of searching for an answer you already think you know, not the truth
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232801

Wrap your brain around this AC
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01/17/2011 02:14 AM
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FAIL

I am startled and amazed at such a profound response! So compelling, so definitive precise and logical, WOW!

Is that how you got where you are today, by shoutong fail in capital letters?

Kinda reminds me of those folks on streetcorners shouting at traffic, you know, the ones you can tell need to bath from twenty feet away!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232801

Go ahead and show me the physics buddy, as far as I see your just spouting out useless garbage. Lets see your math
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01/17/2011 02:16 AM
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Dude you are full of shit with that I knew someone who had an office at the WTC crap along with the jet fuel lameness.

You are a sucker my friend

oh really? you are saying that I don't know someone who had an office in the WTC?

okay, fine

there is really no reason to discuss this with you
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232801

And since we have the tenant list of who occupied the WTC for a ways back go ahead and tell us who u knew as that is public information now
Anonymous Coward
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01/17/2011 02:18 AM
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Oh and BTW AC 1232801 ur checkmated with that link I sent you. Its a WELL respected chemical journal with multiple samples and legitimate test results that are peer reviewed, you will not find a better source than that. But since you are so sure it was a bunch of terrorists that did, go ahead and prove me wrong. And don't come out with more useless garbage like u've been talking, i'll just rip ur argument to shreds
Anonymous Coward
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01/17/2011 02:23 AM
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AND just to make u look like an even BIGGER dumbass

The jet fuel even with fire from the office debris etc would not meet the requirements to melt the steel beams.

Heres the melting point of steel? You were saying something about jet fuel burning hot enough to melt steel? Got anything else to add shill, just piss off. I hate dirty little douche bags like you
Anonymous Coward
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01/17/2011 03:16 AM
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I ate at Windows on the World in May of 1984. Brunch and we had mimosas.
Leases expire and new ones get signed.
If your list does not show Windows there in 1984, something is very wrong here.

Mimosas ?

damn ....

As I recall, it was the day they did the "hands across America" thing.
Where is the Windows lease for 1984 when I was there on this supposed list?
Put up or STFU.

Dude big fkn deal if windows is or isn't. OK you went there in 1984 we get it.

An FOIA document is what it is- legal document showing all leases from 1972 till 2001 (before silverstein bought it).

Every tourist and fool like you knows windows was there, as well as the observation deck.

Take you express elevator from the lobby up to the top, never realizing that everything in between was empty.

And to all you AON & Morgan Stanley I know someone who worked there types- this means you know someone who most likely is an intelligence operative who SAYS they work there as a front.

WRONG!!! It is an FOIA document that shows leases, but NOT ALL LEASES OR TENANTS since 1972. The list is incomplete. Deloite & Touche had 1,200 employees and 7 floors in Tower 1 prior to 1993. They are not mentioned at all in the FOIA document. So to claim the towers were empty based on an incomplete tenant list shows incredible irresponsibility and FRAUD by the OP.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232403

Good point. This FOIA list they received seems to reflect the most recent leaseholders in the WTC. It doesn't seem to be a historical document that includes previous tenants.
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for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 50 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers

I just realized how silly that statement was, it should have read;

for a better understanding of the physics behind the WTC's falling, please go outsice and drop a 40 pound cinder block on your toe, then multiply that by 500 to get a ton, then by 500,000 to get the total weight of the towers, then consider the kinetic energy stored in the towers
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1232801

Those towers fell through themselves practically without resistance, i.e. at practically free fall speed. This is obviously impossible with reinforced structures unless they are pulled down with explosive means. That is extra energy added into the equation.

Those who believe that reinforced buildings can fall through themselves at practically free fall speed in a gravity driven event can´t also believe that parachutes work. Can´t have it both ways.
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Any photos of the 50,000 desks, 50,000 chairs in the debris from the demolition?
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01/17/2011 08:53 AM
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Any photos of the 50,000 desks, 50,000 chairs in the debris from the demolition?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390917

They turned to dust along with the thousands of tons of concrete and steel. Someone named Dimitri proposed a nuclear demolition device detonated underground was used to dustify everything above it. I'm guessing that along with military grade explosives were used to blow up each floor from top to bottom.
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I have researched this for years, no has convinced me that some goons with rags on their heads could not hijack planes and fly them into towers, I know most Americans refuse to admit we were that vulnerable and stupid, but the fact is it was a clever plan, as a matter of fact we are still vulnerable in ways I decline to go in to, I care not to give any loonies any ideas
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01/17/2011 10:13 AM
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Any photos of the 50,000 desks, 50,000 chairs in the debris from the demolition?

They turned to dust along with the thousands of tons of concrete and steel. Someone named Dimitri proposed a nuclear demolition device detonated underground was used to dustify everything above it. I'm guessing that along with military grade explosives were used to blow up each floor from top to bottom.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1233298

You see, I like the Dmitri idea, but I also like the powder'd Thermobaric or SOLID ROCKET FUEL idea -- those two very different methods aside I suspect it's gonna come down to plain and simple MILITARY GRADE EXPLOSIVES when all's said and done.

It was a 'very kinky' top-down demolition and the planes had to hit those specific floors so it came in on a QRS11 gyrochip pointing at a BEACON per building, imho.
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01/17/2011 10:45 AM
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Any photos of the 50,000 desks, 50,000 chairs in the debris from the demolition?

They turned to dust along with the thousands of tons of concrete and steel. Someone named Dimitri proposed a nuclear demolition device detonated underground was used to dustify everything above it. I'm guessing that along with military grade explosives were used to blow up each floor from top to bottom.

You see, I like the Dmitri idea, but I also like the powder'd Thermobaric or SOLID ROCKET FUEL idea -- those two very different methods aside I suspect it's gonna come down to plain and simple MILITARY GRADE EXPLOSIVES when all's said and done.

It was a 'very kinky' top-down demolition and the planes had to hit those specific floors so it came in on a QRS11 gyrochip pointing at a BEACON per building, imho.
Quoting: Free Planet

Whatever it was, it pulverized the shit out of each floor. No natural collapse would exhibit these results. In fact as you know and anyone with a functional brain knows that skyscrapers do not fall straight down into their own foot print at near free fall speed WITHOUT a controlled demolition. That is a FACT that debunkers cannot refute.

All this OP talk of empty towers, fake jumpers, fake planes, fake everything is total bullshit distraction from the truth. Once we know that the towers were CD'd then that is enough to warrant a new investigation and criminal trial. The perps instead obfuscate everything by throwing out all sorts of wacky theories to prevent an investigation. Most of the truthers are cointel pro sad to say.
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01/17/2011 10:57 AM
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Sadly most Americans can't or refuse to see the truth even when its staring them in the face.
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Derek?
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Anyone out there that still believes that those towers were taken down with a 757 is either reeeeaaalllllllllly stupid or just living in a severe state of denial. There is so much proof out now that is do glaring of the fact that this was planned and deliberate. If you still believe that this was not an inside job....God help you understand and wrap your brain around what TPTB have done to this world.....and they are not finish yet by any means.
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Anyone out there that still believes that those towers were taken down with a 757 is either reeeeaaalllllllllly stupid or just living in a severe state of denial. There is so much proof out now that is do glaring of the fact that this was planned and deliberate. If you still believe that this was not an inside job....God help you understand and wrap your brain around what TPTB have done to this world.....and they are not finish yet by any means.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1154720

No,...sadly the American population is not going to bleat too loudly even as microchips are inserted into their collective quivering anuses.

Those that will try to fight the forced slavery will be called "terrorists" and hunted down like dogs.

Now bend the fuck over!!!

Z

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