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Hinduism is officially the oldest religion in the world!!

 
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When it comes to the oldest religions in the world, it is easy to see why there would be controversy regarding this matter.

Hinduism

Many experts agree that the oldest organized religion in the world is Hinduism, which dates back to 1,500 BCE. The sacred texts of Hinduism (the Vedas) were written at this time and serve as a historical marker for the religion. Interestingly, Hinduism is a religion that has no known creator. The basis of the belief system is comprised of various cultures and myths. There are many different texts associated with Hinduism, which allow adherents to study philosophy, mythology, theology, as well as learn how to follow the practice of dharma also known as religious living. Today, Hinduism is the largest religion in the world.

Judaism

Another religion that has roots dating back thousands of years ago is Judaism. Born around 1800 BCE, Abraham is recognized as the founder of Judaism. When tracing the origin and history of the religion, the Torah plays an important role. For many, the start of Judaism is often marked by the existence of the Torah.

The Torah (also known as the Five Books of Moses) represents the text surrounding the founding legal and ethical beliefs of Judaism. The Torah is the first of three parts of the Tanakh, which is the Hebrew Bible. The books are separated into five different sections with names written in English: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. The first individual to put the Torah in writing was Moses, who did so about 1400 BCE.

Paganism

Not all religions or forms of worship are organized. Many feel that Paganism is the oldest belief system in the world. It is from Paganism that Wicca and other extensions of earth-related worship get their start. The concept of Mother Earth as a goddess is one that was embraced as far back as 30,000 years ago during Paleolithic times. The modern version of paganism is linked to Celtic religious beliefs that date back to around 1000 BCE.

Common Misconception

Across the world, Islam and Christianity currently have the most adherents, but they are actually among the newest forms of worship. Islam dates back to 610 CE with Abraham serving as the oldest prophet of the religion. Adherents of Islam believe that their religion is the complete and universal version of a prehistoric belief system that has been revealed many different times and at various places, involving religious figures, such as Moses, Abraham, and Jesus.

Christianity has roots that trace back to about 30 CE. The religion is based on the life and word of Jesus of Nazareth. Gospels and other writings, such as the Bible, play an important role in the religion. Those who follow and practice the faith are referred to as Christians. They typically belong to various churches, such as the three largest organizations in the world: the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox churches, and churches of Protestantism.
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rocks are pretty old too.
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The Hindu religion is the oldest religion in the world today. They already know the ages of the world and what stage we are at and when each stage will finish and a new one starts, We are currently almost at the end of the Iron Age and soon to go into the Bronze age.

Here is the Hindu Theory of World Cycles"

" Brahmin Cosmogonic Cycles of Creation and Destructions

Brahma is the cosmic dreamer who alternately sleeps and wakes for equal Periods of time. The days and nights of Brahma are calculated to Brahma years, and the Brahma years are calculated to one Brahma lifetime. At the end of a Brahma lifetime all creation dissolves into the body of the cosmic dreamer. One Brahmin Cycle is as follows:

Age 1 - Kruta Yuga = 400 divine dawn years + 4,000 full divine Years + 400 twilight Years (4,800 years).

Age 2 - Treta Yuga = 3,600 divine Years (including dawn and twilight)

Age 3 - DvaPora Yuga = 2,400 divine years (including dawn and twilights)

Age 4 - Kali Yuga (which begins 2/17/3102 BCE and continues to the present age) = 1,200 divine Years.

Added together, this makes 12,000 divine years in all, or one Great Cycle ("Mahayuga"). A Mahayuga calculcated in terms of human years = 4,320,000 years.

One thousand Mahayugas = one Brahma daytime.

One full day and night of Brahma is calculated as the equivalent of 4,000,000 divine years * 360 or 8,640,000,000 human years. (Just as in our system the 24 hour day contains 86,400 seconds and each second is the length of time of the human heart beat).

360 days and nights of Brahma = one Brahma year.

100 Brahma years = one Brahma lifetime. Calculated in human years, one Brahma lifetime = 311,040,000,000,000 human years. "

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" Vishwa-Karmas, the descendants of the Pancha Brahmas, were involved in the "architecture of the world". Thier work was classified as follows:


Descendants of Manu -> Iron
Descendants of Maya -> Wood
Descendants of Twastha -> Copper, Bronze
Descendants of Shilpi -> stone
Descendants of Vishwajna -> gold

Thier tools depend on the yuga, as described below.


In Krutha yuga -> from purity of mind
In Tretha yuga -> from sight
In Dwapara yuga -> from mantras
In Kali yuga -> using hands

However, this age of Kali is coming to an end. Vipras are gradually losing thier hold over the people. They have given up Veda Adhyayana, and have taken up Para Vidya (means all other professions, including western education). At the arrival of Kalki, they will be so poor and powerless as to not have enough to eat and wear. This process is evident in India, where there is an uprising against the upper-castes, mainly vipras. (incidentally, this upper-caste lower-caste business cropped up in kali yuga under the stewardship of vipra brahmins; before this, all castes were equally respected to thier service to the people).

In addition, just before the arrival of kalki, Vipras will lose control of Sringeri Mutt, and Vishwa-Karmas will get control of it. Also, Vishwa-Karmas will be restored to thier past glory.

Meanwhile, the original vedas have been written and hidden under a Tamarind tree in Kandi Mallaya Palli in Andhra Pradesh. Kalki will get it out for the benefit of the people. "

"Here is what what Veera Brahmam says in his Kaala Jnaana.

He says Kali Yuga will last for 5000 years after the passing away of Krishna, after which evil will have spread through out the world, setting the stage for the arrival of Kalki. He says all these things will take place before his arrival again.

What are the Signs of his arrival? VBS gives some clear signs of the arrival of Kalki, whose name is Veera Bhoga Vasanta.

1. There will be a rain of fire. Following this a strange thing will happen. 20 feet tall humans will appear and claim to be Kalki. (this is in India).

2. A huge comet will be born in the south; several people will die due to this.

3. Mammary glands will be born to the males of Cow, Goat, etc. and people will get milk from them.

4. Tigers will disappear completely from the forests.

5. The Sun will appear like a green colored human being (?)

6. Moon will be seen on a new moon day.

7. Wealth will arrive from other countries to India and India will be very rich and powerful.

8. Stones will break and fly about like crows and eagles; Stone horses and chariots will start to run.

9. Blood and pus will flow out from stones.

10. It will rain blood.

The following refers to the World War I:

"After 5017 years of Kali Yuga, during the year pingala, a terrible war will start .."

Considering 3102 BC as the year of beginning of Kali Yuga puts the end of Kali Yuga at 1898AD. 5017'th year of Kali Yuga means 1915 AD which was when World War I was taking place.

Other that this mention of the war, VBS mentions various events which have taken place during the past 100 years or are set to take place.

Chakravartin cakravartin (Sanskrit) [from chakra wheel, cycle + vartin turning, one who governs] Sovereign of the world, universal ruler; a title applied to several Hindu emperors, but referring particularly to Vishnu, who in the treta yuga in the form of a universal monarch protected the three worlds. At the end of kali yuga, legend states that Vishnu will appear again under his form of the Kalki-avatara, or Maitreya as the Buddhists say, reforming or doing away with the wicked and inaugurating a realm of spirituality and righteousness.

Equivalent to the Hebrew Enduring King

(Enoch 36:3). "Through each of these small portals pass the stars of heaven and run their course to the west on the path which is shown to them. And as often as I saw I blessed always the Lord of Glory, and I continued to bless the Lord of Glory who has wrought great and glorious wonders, to show the greatness of His work to the angels and to spirits and to men, that they might praise His work and all His creation: that they might see the work of His might and praise the great work of His hands and bless Him for ever. "
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Christianity is the oldest religion, from creation, and the book of Genesis is the oldest text. Hinduism comes out of Babylon, which was founded by Noah's g-grand son.
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rocks are pretty old too.
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*lol*

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Christianity is the oldest religion, from creation, and the book of Genesis is the oldest text. Hinduism comes out of Babylon, which was founded by Noah's g-grand son.
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*lol*


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Christianity is the oldest religion, from creation, and the book of Genesis is the oldest text. Hinduism comes out of Babylon, which was founded by Noah's g-grand son.
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Satan!
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keep it going OP

the three wise men were brahmins !

jesus was clearly a hindu
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Christianity is the oldest religion, from creation, and the book of Genesis is the oldest text. Hinduism comes out of Babylon, which was founded by Noah's g-grand son.
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You are one Brainwashed Sheep.
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OP: sorry, you can't know that. It might be the oldest known to modern man, but we still don't know how many civilizations existed before the most recent.
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Christianity is the oldest religion, from creation, and the book of Genesis is the oldest text. Hinduism comes out of Babylon, which was founded by Noah's g-grand son.



*lol*


No mate.
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LOL (not)

Chistianity and Judaism go back to the beginning of the universe. It predates the flood of Noah and can be traced back to Adam, Cain, and Abel...
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Chistianity and Judaism go back to the beginning of the universe. It predates the flood of Noah and can be traced back to Adam, Cain, and Abel...
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Christianity is the oldest religion, from creation, and the book of Genesis is the oldest text. Hinduism comes out of Babylon, which was founded by Noah's g-grand son.



*lol*


No mate.


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Chistianity and Judaism go back to the beginning of the universe. It predates the flood of Noah and can be traced back to Adam, Cain, and Abel...
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OP: sorry, you can't know that. It might be the oldest known to modern man, but we still don't know how many civilizations existed before the most recent.
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Oldest ORGANIZED religion in the world.

Clearly they're specific beliefs and ideologies native to the various African tribes out there and the Aboriginal belief systems.
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Christianity is the oldest religion, from creation, and the book of Genesis is the oldest text. Hinduism comes out of Babylon, which was founded by Noah's g-grand son.



*lol*


No mate.


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Chistianity and Judaism go back to the beginning of the universe. It predates the flood of Noah and can be traced back to Adam, Cain, and Abel...
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Christianity & Judaism do not exist together.
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Chistianity and Judaism go back to the beginning of the universe. It predates the flood of Noah and can be traced back to Adam, Cain, and Abel...



1rof1
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*Spreads hands*

What else can you say really?
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Chistianity and Judaism go back to the beginning of the universe. It predates the flood of Noah and can be traced back to Adam, Cain, and Abel...



1rof1



*Spreads hands*

What else can you say really?
 Quoting: Big'Ez


...that you're completely wrong? Wait, that would be way too obvious...
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Christianity is the oldest religion, from creation, and the book of Genesis is the oldest text. Hinduism comes out of Babylon, which was founded by Noah's g-grand son.



*lol*


No mate.


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Chistianity and Judaism go back to the beginning of the universe. It predates the flood of Noah and can be traced back to Adam, Cain, and Abel...

iamwith
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Yes, you are with stupid. You congregate with you own..you said it.
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All this stuff about Brahma sounds like a lot of "bull"...
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I love how any non western religion related thread here becomes a Christian/Jew discussion.
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The best thing about being wrong is being corrected. It takes humility to accept that one is wrong.


The worst thing about being wrong is having PRIDE in your own thinking and beliefs, and when you are wrong and are corrected you'll never accept the correction.

Thus forever remain ignorant.

I do not NEED to have people think and believe as I do, so I'm content to leave them to wallow in their own ignorance.

Do so, quietly.
I am, what I am.
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All this stuff about Brahma sounds like a lot of "bull"...
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You are one brainwashed sheep.

There was no Christianity until Hindu & Jewish religions became popular.
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The best thing about being wrong is being corrected. It takes humility to accept that one is wrong.


The worst thing about being wrong is having PRIDE in your own thinking and beliefs, and when you are wrong and are corrected you'll never accept the correction.

Thus forever remain ignorant.

I do not NEED to have people think and believe as I do, so I'm content to leave them to wallow in their own ignorance.

Do so, quietly.
 Quoting: Big'Ez


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There was no Christianity until Hindu & Jewish religions became popular.
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All this stuff about Brahma sounds like a lot of "bull"...



You are one brainwashed sheep.

There was no Christianity until Hindu & Jewish religions became popular.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210351


That's like saying that there was no United States until the British Empire settled North America.

Naturally, there was no Christianity until Christ appeared in Israel...

Your point? (wait, I get it..)

norespect
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LOL (not)

Chistianity and Judaism go back to the beginning of the universe. It predates the flood of Noah and can be traced back to Adam, Cain, and Abel...



1rof1



*Spreads hands*

What else can you say really?


...that you're completely wrong? Wait, that would be way too obvious...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1059768


I really have not even an appropriate facepalm for this....

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this doesen't look like proof to me, but i don't care for religion anyway
so

gives
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Chistianity and Judaism go back to the beginning of the universe. It predates the flood of Noah and can be traced back to Adam, Cain, and Abel...



1rof1



*Spreads hands*

What else can you say really?


...that you're completely wrong? Wait, that would be way too obvious...


I really have not even an appropriate facepalm for this....

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1035843


Translation: you have no argument.

Damn, this is easy...





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