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URGENT: GET THIS NOW FOR SHTF!!!

 
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ANTIBIOTICS!!

A must have!

I am not a doctor but from what I have studied Amoxicillin and Ciprofloxin seem to be good choices.

PRESCRIBED FOR: Amoxicillin is used to treat infections due to organisms that are susceptible to the effects of amoxicillin. Common infections that amoxicillin is used for include infections of the middle ear, tonsils, throat, larynx (laryngitis), bronchi (bronchitis), lungs (pneumonia), urinary tract, and skin. It also is used to treat gonorrhea.

PRESCRIBED FOR: Ciprofloxacin is used to treat infections of the skin, lungs, airways, bones, and joints caused by susceptible bacteria. Ciprofloxacin is also frequently used to treat urinary infections caused by bacteria such as E. coli. Ciprofloxacin is effective in treating infectious diarrheas caused by E. coli, Campylobacter jejuni, and Shigella bacteria.

From what I can gather, these specific antibiotics DO NOT turn toxic after expiration AND can stay good for 5 years or more.

If you do not have a way to get a prescription from your doctor, check out [link to www.calvetsupply.com]

They are of course labeled for fish aquariums but most are pharmacy grade. I have researched it and from what I gather these are PERFECTLY safe for human consumption.

Of course they don't come with dosing requirements so be sure to print out these pages for when TSHTF:

[link to www.medicinenet.com]
[link to www.medicinenet.com]

I gathered most of my information from the above sites and from PatriotNurse:



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Thank you - Great information
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I dunno...are you confident fish grade antibiotics vs human antibiotics are safe and will do the job? Sorry, just asking.
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You can go down to Mexico and pick these up at any pharmacia. No prescription needed down there.
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I dunno...are you confident fish grade antibiotics vs human antibiotics are safe and will do the job? Sorry, just asking.
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watch the video...she recommends this site in the beginning. If you are still skeptical you can google it...i read many forums saying its fine...
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Re: URGENT: GET THIS NOW FOR SHTF!!!
ANTIBIOTICS!!

A must have!

I am not a doctor but from what I have studied Amoxicillin and Ciprofloxin seem to be good choices.

PRESCRIBED FOR: Amoxicillin is used to treat infections due to organisms that are susceptible to the effects of amoxicillin. Common infections that amoxicillin is used for include infections of the middle ear, tonsils, throat, larynx (laryngitis), bronchi (bronchitis), lungs (pneumonia), urinary tract, and skin. It also is used to treat gonorrhea.

PRESCRIBED FOR: Ciprofloxacin is used to treat infections of the skin, lungs, airways, bones, and joints caused by susceptible bacteria. Ciprofloxacin is also frequently used to treat urinary infections caused by bacteria such as E. coli. Ciprofloxacin is effective in treating infectious diarrheas caused by E. coli, Campylobacter jejuni, and Shigella bacteria.

 Quoting: ºSPiRaLº


I have a selection of anti-biotics. I purchased them online from various sources, mostly from Mexico.

A few observations:
Pharma grade is plainly labeled on the bottles. Legitimate? I don't know. The manufacturers on the labels also make 'prescription' meds. Hmmmm....

They are labeled for aquarium usage but are capsules. Hmmm...Is that not a tad peculiar? Would a capsule be the most effective way to treat an aquarium or a fish? I think not. It is, however, an effective way for a human to take them. Just sayin.

It's worth checking into.

Recently the laws have changed in regards to fish meds, etc. Big pharma is catching on to us! You can not get them in big bottles anymore. They have to be in blister packs, which makes them more expensive. Get'em now before they are completely illegal.
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horse anti biotics. go to vet or farm and ranch supply. very same as human ones. check the strengths.

way cheaper too.
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PRESCRIBED FOR: Amoxicillin is used to treat infections due to organisms that are susceptible to the effects of amoxicillin.
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How come orgasms are going to need treatment during TEOTWAWKI?
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I dunno...are you confident fish grade antibiotics vs human antibiotics are safe and will do the job? Sorry, just asking.
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Like they set up a factory making antibiotics just for fish. Use your brain man. Do fish swallow tablets?
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So anyone know a good online site to get this stuff without hassles?
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Colloidal Silver.
Done.
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ameritards should stop taking antibiotics like fucking tic tacs... it is the reasen that this viruses get imune to the shit!
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OK doc. I need a five year supply of well not pennicillin. (i am alergic) but teramyicin, umm hey doc can you get my wife----LOL

OP where the fuck are you buying your drugs. The ones you are taking, and the ones we need?
Fishing and skiing keeps me a little sane.
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ameritards should stop taking antibiotics like fucking tic tacs... it is the reasen that this viruses get imune to the shit!
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Sadly the German population still recides.
Fishing and skiing keeps me a little sane.
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Ok...sounds reasonable and no I never thought fish swallowed pills but thanks for pointing that out!
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Anyone comment on Shelf / storage life of the meds?
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Anyone comment on Shelf / storage life of the meds?
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ameritards should stop taking antibiotics like fucking tic tacs... it is the reasen that this viruses get imune to the shit!

Sadly the German population still recides.
 Quoting: Ricfly52


I nominate you top moran of the day. Recides? Are you drunk or what?
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Anyone comment on Shelf / storage life of the meds?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1197108

In the OP I mentioned at least 5 years. (Cipro has been known to last for 9 years)

Here are links:

[link to www.ciprofloxacinpharmacy.com]
[link to www.medicines.org.uk]
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Colloidal silver.
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Colloidal silver.
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I recommend this as well. Colloidal silver for prevention...antibiotics ONLY if 100% necessary.
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i like this bit of info quote-Amoxicillin is used to treat infections due to organisms that are susceptible to the effects of amoxicillin.
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You can get these at Amazon, as well as others. They are pharma-grade.
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You can get these at Amazon, as well as others. They are pharma-grade.
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Do it before the loophole closes.

It would be fucked to survive TSHTF only to die sometime later from a septic infection due to a small cut because you didn't have any antibiotics.
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ameritards should stop taking antibiotics like fucking tic tacs... it is the reasen that this viruses get imune to the shit!
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More likely the artificial lifeforms being hatched at Detrick and like that.
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The Medical Letter

On Drugs and Therapeutics
www.medicalletter.org
Published by The Medical Letter, Inc. •1000 Main Street, New Rochelle, NY 10801 •A Nonprofit Publication
Vol. 44 (W1142B)
October 28, 2002
REPRODUCED FOR
ONLINE USERS
DRUGS PAST THEIR EXPIRATION DATE


Physicians and pharmacists are often asked if patients can use drugs after their expiration date. Pharmaceutical companies, because of legal restrictions and liability concerns, will not sanction such use and may not even comment on the safety or effectiveness of using their products beyond the date on the label.

THE EXPIRATION DATE — The expiration date on the manufacturer’s package is based on the stability of the drug in its original closed container. The date does not necessarily mean that the drug was found to be unstable after a longer period; it means only that real-time data or extrapolations from accelerated degradation studies indicate that the drug will still be stable at that date. The expiration date for new drugs is usually 2-3 years from the date of manufacture. Once the original container is opened for use or dispensing, the expiration date on the container no longer applies. Retail pharmacists who repackage drugs, in accordance with the standards of the US Pharmacopoeia (USP), label them with a "beyond-use" date, generally one year from the date the prescription is filled.

SAFETY — The only report of human toxicity that may have been caused by chemical or physical degradation of a pharmaceutical product is renal tubular damage that was associated with use of degraded tetracycline (GW Frimpter et al, JAMA 1963; 184:111). Current tetracycline preparations have been reformulated with different fillers to minimize degradation and are unlikely to have this effect.

STABILITY
— Shelf life is the time a product, stored under reasonable conditions, is expected to remain stable (generally retain greater than 90% of potency) (B Kommanaboyina and CT Rhodes, Drug Dev Ind Pharm 1999; 25:857). Data from the Department of Defense/FDA Shelf Life Extension Program, which tests the stability of drug products past their expiration date, showed that 84% of 1,122 lots of 96 different drug products stored in military facilities in their unopened original containers would be expected to remain stable for an average of 57 months after their original expiration date (JS Taylor et al, 2002 FDA Science Forum Poster Abstract, Board AC-08, www.fda.gov, search "2002 FDA science forum"). Storage in high humidity may interfere with the dissolution characteristics of some oral formulations. In one published study, however, captopril (Capoten) tablets, flucloxacillin sodium (Flucloxin) capsules (a penicillin not available in the US), cefoxitin sodium (Mefoxin) powder for injection and theophylline (Theo-Dur) tablets stored under both ambient and "stress" (40C and 75% relative humidity) conditions remained chemically and physically stable for 1.5-9 years beyond their expiration dates (G Stark et al, Pharm J 1997; 258:637). Amantadine (Symmetrel) and rimantidine (Flumadine) remained stable after storage for 25 years under ambient conditions, and retained full antiviral activity after boiling and holding at 65-85C for several days (C Schol-tissek and RG Webster, Antiviral Res 1998; 38:213). In another report, theophylline retained 90% of potency for about 30 years (R Regenthal et al, Hum Exp Toxicol 2002; 21:343).

LIQUID DRUGS — Drugs in liquid form (solutions and suspensions) are not as stable as solid dosage forms. Suspensions are especially susceptible to freezing. Drugs in solution, particularly injectables, that have become cloudy or discolored or show signs of precipitation should not be used. When oral drugs are in solution with dyes, however, color changes may be due to degradation of the dye and not the drug. Epinephrine in EpiPen injections loses potency after its expiration date; in one study, 5 of 7 autoinjectors contained less than 90% of the labeled epinephrine content 10 months after the expiration date, without necessarily being discolored or showing signs of precipitation (FER Simons et al, J Allergy Clin Immunol 2000; 105:1025). Drugs prepared by addition of a solvent before dispensing or administration (such as suspensions of antibiotics for oral use or lyophilized drugs in vials for parenteral use) tend to be relatively unstable in the liquid state. With ophthalmic drugs, the limiting factor may not be the stability of the drug, but the continued ability of the preservative to inhibit microbial growth.

CONCLUSION — There are virtually no reports of toxicity from degradation products of outdated drugs. How much of their potency they retain varies with the drug and the storage conditions, especially humidity, but many drugs stored under reasonable conditions retain 90% of their potency for at least 5 years after the expiration date on the label, and sometimes much longer.
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all i see on amazon are antibiotics for fish.. wtf?
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ok i guess you can take the 'fish mox' cool!
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ok i guess you can take the 'fish mox' cool!
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yes!
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I'm allergic to Amoxicillin....but the other one I'll look into and hope that one doesn't plunge me into a drowsy nauseous shock like Amoxi did.





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